Not Neutering

[Bizzymammabee]

A lot of men (not saying that this is the case here) feel that neutering is wrong becuase your removing the manhood of the dog (my dad is old school and thinks like this too) and that clouds their judgment. They seem to equate their dogs manliness and fertility with their own.

[lara2913]

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee

A lot of men (not saying that this is the case here) feel that neutering is wrong becuase your removing the manhood of the dog (my dad is old school and thinks like this too) and that clouds their judgment. They seem to equate their dogs manliness and fertility with their own.

I wonder what they would say if you asked them, would you rather have a massive urge to have sex for your entire life and never get to do it? Or, never have the urge to do it?

[Bizzymammabee]

Originally Posted by lara2913

I wonder what they would say if you asked them, would you rather have a massive urge to have sex for your entire life and never get to do it? Or, never have the urge to do it?

Definitely a good question...lol. Sure puts it in perspective.

[Superstarkba]

Originally Posted by blondflava

I agree it doesn't change their personality. Pepper was neutered about 8 months ago and he's as hyper, active and crazy as he was before.

I disagree when you said " it doesn't change their personality." Because Aubrey is not hiper or anythign like he used to be. Every now and then he will start running around, but now he mostly just lays around.

[La Princesa]

its all on you what you want to do. I dont feel that you should have ever felt that you NEEDED to neuter just because people in here say you should. WHen i read in here i really have to go through and separate facts from strong opinions that seem like fact u know?

I know with my first i had no problems with him marking in my house because he is a really easy to train boy and willing to please and knows what he must to to get his way with me... I did have a problem with him marking up other people's homes especially if they had other dogs. He would hump people especially if that person owned a girl dog. So like you as long as he was INSIDE my home i really had no major problems.

When i got my second dog he Marked my home immediately where if he was neutered i would not have had that problem cause he was pee pad trained. he immediately tried to hump my first boy and he has a strong personality and i think neutering is the best thing for him.In hind site if it wasn't in my contract my first didn't necessarily need to be neuter. My second i would.. with two for me i think its a must but if i only had one. I would definitely not have neutered Ryoko my first but if i only had my second i would neuter him.

another thing is i wanted to remark that people in here said testicular cancer not just any cancer and I think thas valid if its like a 50 50 chance or something but i don't know the statistics and it didn't influence my decision at all. as for it being wrong period, i think that the reason its being done is to help control the pet population... forget what the breeder wants in this case who cares IMO, but if i can stop unwanted or mutts from being born if my boys gets loose i say its a good thing because its wrong to have so many animals that have to be put down because they are neglected and running the streets getting hit by cards and malnutrition's because no one will care for them. I am proud of people who can take in pets off the streets but i feel sorry for them because thas a heavy burden to bare on the heart and on the pockets of the do gooders.

as for AS for the puppy becoming spoiled if not neutered, thats bull as well. I am thinking who in the f%$@# told u that...cause that just sounds like someone's opinion and is definitely not a fact because our pets, if they are indoor pets are spoiled more than most pets anyway.

I applaud you for being a non conformist in this situation and taking the information for yourself and making your own conclusion according to your own needs because thas exactly how this site is supposed to work.

God Bless
Kisses! lol

Originally Posted by remus

After thinking about it for a while, and speaking to some people here and there, some who had up to 10 dogs, i decided not to neuter Rocky.
I see it as a wrong thing to do to a dog or anyone for that matter. Sure breeders will tell you otherwise, they dont want you breeeding dogs, they loose money. And doctors will almost always tell you to go for it!!! $$$$ for them. Its a business just like anything else out there, just like docking tails, $$, which is illegal in England.
Our doctor said to wait and decide later, but did not push me to do it or not do it, told me to wait.

AS for the puppy becoming spoiled if not neutered, thats bull as well. THe dog is either trained or conditioned from day one or not.

Please note, by no means am I trying to offend anyone or anyones lttle monkeys out there. This my personal belief and opinion, just wanted to share it with a Yorkie community.

Thanks!

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by La Princesa

its all on you what you want to do. I dont feel that you should have ever felt that you NEEDED to neuter just because people in here say you should. WHen i read in here i really have to go through and separate facts from strong opinions that seem like fact u know?

I know with my first i had no problems with him marking in my house because he is a really easy to train boy and willing to please and knows what he must to to get his way with me... I did have a problem with him marking up other people's homes especially if they had other dogs. He would hump people especially if that person owned a girl dog. So like you as long as he was INSIDE my home i really had no major problems.

When i got my second dog he Marked my home immediately where if he was neutered i would not have had that problem cause he was pee pad trained. he immediately tried to hump my first boy and he has a strong personality and i think neutering is the best thing for him.In hind site if it wasn't in my contract my first didn't necessarily need to be neuter. My second i would.. with two for me i think its a must but if i only had one. I would definitely not have neutered Ryoko my first but if i only had my second i would neuter him.

another thing is i wanted to remark that people in here said testicular cancer not just any cancer and I think thas valid if its like a 50 50 chance or something but i don't know the statistics and it didn't influence my decision at all. as for it being wrong period, i think that the reason its being done is to help control the pet population... forget what the breeder wants in this case who cares IMO, but if i can stop unwanted or mutts from being born if my boys gets loose i say its a good thing because its wrong to have so many animals that have to be put down because they are neglected and running the streets getting hit by cards and malnutrition's because no one will care for them. I am proud of people who can take in pets off the streets but i feel sorry for them because thas a heavy burden to bare on the heart and on the pockets of the do gooders.

as for AS for the puppy becoming spoiled if not neutered, thats bull as well. I am thinking who in the f%$@# told u that...cause that just sounds like someone's opinion and is definitely not a fact because our pets, if they are indoor pets are spoiled more than most pets anyway.

I applaud you for being a non conformist in this situation and taking the information for yourself and making your own conclusion according to your own needs because thas exactly how this site is supposed to work.

God Bless
Kisses! lol

This is why I have a spay/neuter contract on my pet puppies and will not grant AKC papers until proof of spay and neuter. And will probably end up spaying and neutering before leaving to a new pet home. If that means keeping a puppy longer to insure spay/neuter so be it
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[mizzwanned]

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee

A lot of men (not saying that this is the case here) feel that neutering is wrong becuase your removing the manhood of the dog (my dad is old school and thinks like this too) and that clouds their judgment. They seem to equate their dogs manliness and fertility with their own.

Like my bf. He doesn't want to get Teddy neutered cause he feels its wrong to take away his manhood but i am all for neutering him. I've had enough of him marking everything and drooling over London. I know he still might mark afterwards but atleast he won't always be thinking of getting it on and it is safer for him.

[mizzwanned]

Originally Posted by Superstarkba

I disagree when you said " it doesn't change their personality." Because Aubrey is not hiper or anythign like he used to be. Every now and then he will start running around, but now he mostly just lays around.

I heard it changes their personality too and i do want to neuter Teddy but he is very active now and i don't want him to change. I don't want him to get lazy and fat. My last dog, we neutered him and he did gain a lot of weight and didn't like to walk as much after he got neutered

[La Princesa]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

This is why I have a spay/neuter contract on my pet puppies and will not grant AKC papers until proof of spay and neuter. And will probably end up spaying and neutering before leaving to a new pet home. If that means keeping a puppy longer to insure spay/neuter so be it
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

when i said ignoring what the breeder said I am meaning owning a dog in general. I dont wanna offend and breeders in here. i still believe what i believe but if the dog is not going to be breed then its seems mainly testicular cancer would be a great reason to neuter. You usually Yorkies and in the home where they cant get out to mate. If a its not going to be bred the fine its your choice. To me there is more to why you should neuter. but if i was a breeder protecting my lines then i would neuter each pup myself before selling. I have always said that to my friends as well cause some people don't respect a contract they just want a pup.

But when i see so many mutts out on the street I say why not neuter. if i just had one and no contract i would not neuter and would not breed. But with two i think its a must.
As for as the AKC papers. has a scary thing because so many people have problems getting them because their breeder wasn't reputable. unfortunately for many its the luck of the draw and I got lucky i found a breeder who i could actually trust to get me the papers with my proof of neutering.

I so agree with you on the last part of your post. I think if more people took the time to do this then they would have less problems with more back yard breeders popping up.

[lara2913]

Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I heard it changes their personality too and i do want to neuter Teddy but he is very active now and i don't want him to change. I don't want him to get lazy and fat. My last dog, we neutered him and he did gain a lot of weight and didn't like to walk as much after he got neutered

You have to manage it, both my boys are neutered and they love their walks. Sometimes vets advise reducing food by 10% post neuter but it just depends on the dog.

[ARCHIE]

Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I heard it changes their personality too and i do want to neuter Teddy but he is very active now and i don't want him to change. I don't want him to get lazy and fat. My last dog, we neutered him and he did gain a lot of weight and didn't like to walk as much after he got neutered

I have had three male dogs neutered over the years and I can honestly
say I have not seen any difference in their personality.

Buddy is 3 1/2 and still runs and has the energy of a puppy. At times
I wish he would slow down. I can't understand anyone's dog just lying
around doing nothing. Perhaps is just the personality of some.
If a dog is not being used to breed it is the responsiblity of the owner
to assure that his pet will not bring unwanted pups into an already
over populated world of unloved and homeless dogs.

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I heard it changes their personality too and i do want to neuter Teddy but he is very active now and i don't want him to change. I don't want him to get lazy and fat. My last dog, we neutered him and he did gain a lot of weight and didn't like to walk as much after he got neutered

My Codie is neutered and he's sooo not overweight. He loves to go for walks and the only change in her personality is he has become more loving and sweet over time (but that's a great thing!!!). I was worried about him changing in a bad way but that never happened. I'm so glad I had him neutered.

PS - Your Teddy is so stinkin cute!!

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

This is why I have a spay/neuter contract on my pet puppies and will not grant AKC papers until proof of spay and neuter. And will probably end up spaying and neutering before leaving to a new pet home. If that means keeping a puppy longer to insure spay/neuter so be it
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

I don't know you but I can tell from this post alone that you are DEFINITELY someone I would buy a dog from. I'm a firm believer in spaying/neutering too.

If I were a breeder, I'd spay/neuter the pups before they left my house to ENSURE that it's done. I agree with you on that. If someone wanted to buy an unaltered dog, they would have to look someone else.

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by La Princesa

but if i was a breeder protecting my lines then i would neuter each pup myself before selling. I have always said that to my friends as well cause some people don't respect a contract they just want a pup.

I agree. Someone may not care about AKC papers and won't respect a contract. Better safe than sorry.

[Kbsqueff]

I usually do not post my opinion on threads like this but I'll give it a try...

It's true when someone said that S/N procedure is easier on the males than on the females... And as it was pointed out before, S/N will NOT prevent ALL sort of cancers.

Neutering prevents: testicular cancer.
Spaying prevents: pyometra. And when the spaying is done BEFORE the 1st heat, there's a chance of 0.5% of developing breast cancer - chances to develop breast cancer get higher after 1st heat.

I am NOT a breeder (my Dad used to breed german shepards, though) and I don't intend to be, but....(please don't hate me).... I'm too afraid to have my girls spayed Since Maggie already had her 2nd heat, her chances of developing breast cancer are higher, so IF she happens to NEED a surgery to take off the lumps then I will have her spayed all together...

The same goes to Hannah, because she weights only 2lb...

After all I said, I think it's a personnal decision... Now please, don't shoot me!