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Chrissy0277 · 08-13-2007, 04:25 PM

Thank god its Illegal in NJ

txshopper73 · 08-13-2007, 04:35 PM

A VERY touchy subject!

None of my dogs are debarked. However, I have spoken to a good breeder friend that has considered doing this with her dogs (just the key barkers). It's actually a laser surgery and they can even eat the same day.

The neighbor behind us has a poodle that has been debarked. Yes, this dog can still bark (argues with my crew all the time through the fence

). It's just not the shrill, high pitched, make your skin crawl kind of bark.

Puppy mills debark in a cruel way (ramming a pipe down their throats). However, if someone were to do it via vet then I'm not going to condemn them.

There was a time when I was against it completely and thought it was horribly cruel. However, now days, I try to keep an open mind to things.

Training my dogs to not bark is not as easy as it sounds since I'm not there to correct them all day long. Well, OP, good luck in whatever you decide. But, speak to a vet and find out the pros and cons and choose what is best for you, your family and your living arrangements.

Nikki+2 · 08-14-2007, 06:00 AM

Great information Kimberly! It's nice to know the flip side of the coin.

Nikki+2 · 08-14-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

IMO if you dont want your dog to bark then find him/her a good home and buy a pet fish instead of a dog. Dogs bark thats what they do, you can train most of them not to bark, but some are more stubborn. I would never suggest that kind of cruelty.

You might have seen in post 25 and post 27 she said she was no longer considering debarking and was training her not to bark. Most of us don't want our dogs barking all of the time and want to have some control over it- doesn't mean we should have gotten a goldfish.

ARCHIE · 08-14-2007, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxyroxie_baby

Roxie and I both thank you for your advice, opinions, and your welcomes. WE appreciate everything. We are going to try and keep working with her to stop her constant barking and start a new vet hunt!

Thanks again, and sorry for all the controversy!

Welcome to YT. To be honest I would immediately change vets if one
suggested to de-bark my pet. He is suppose to love animals not turn
them into somthing they are not! Dogs bark, train them. People who have no
patience to train the animal they are responsible for should not own one.
I know your just asking but that is my opinion.
What's next? De-crying a new born?

Can I ask you if your from NJ? Birch Run brings back many memories?

kezza · 08-14-2007, 06:24 AM

OMG!!! What planet have i been living on??? I've never heard of this before! it sounds awful! I don't like Tail Docking either...dogs should be as nature intended as far as i'm concerned..with barks and tails to express themselves.

adorame · 08-14-2007, 06:26 AM

Glad to hear that you are not thinking of doing this. I would find a new vet too if mine suggested such a thing.

I never heard of de barking a dog before! I feel this is horrible! This is a way a bog communicates, I couldn't imagine having my only form of communication taken away from me! Dogs bark, if you don't like the behavior of an over barker their are other way's to take care of it, like a water bottle, coins in a can, or putting them in another area.

I hope you have luck with your baby!

Shadow · 08-14-2007, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txshopper73

A VERY touchy subject!

None of my dogs are debarked. However, I have spoken to a good breeder friend that has considered doing this with her dogs (just the key barkers). It's actually a laser surgery and they can even eat the same day.

The neighbor behind us has a poodle that has been debarked. Yes, this dog can still bark (argues with my crew all the time through the fence

). It's just not the shrill, high pitched, make your skin crawl kind of bark.

Puppy mills debark in a cruel way (ramming a pipe down their throats). However, if someone were to do it via vet then I'm not going to condemn them.

There was a time when I was against it completely and thought it was horribly cruel. However, now days, I try to keep an open mind to things.

Training my dogs to not bark is not as easy as it sounds since I'm not there to correct them all day long. Well, OP, good luck in whatever you decide. But, speak to a vet and find out the pros and cons and choose what is best for you, your family and your living arrangements.

BamaFan121s · 08-15-2007, 02:24 PM

I really could care less one way or another about the procedure, mainly because it doesn't involve me and it's just not one of those things that I choose to devote time to concerning myself over.

But, I will say that upon first hearing of the procedure, I was as shocked and appalled in a manner reflected by most of the response posts here. But I was even more shocked when I learned how many people actually have the procedure done. I don't mean millers or lazy people who don't want to train their dogs--I mean ethical, long time show breeders. MANY more here on YT than you would think that some of you so opposed to the practice sing praises to everyday...as do I. I spoke with them, heard their experience and reasoning and it made me see things differently.

Like I said before, I really don't care one way or another. I don't personally think it would be the best choice for me, but I have no reason to need it. My dogs aren't barkers for the most part and on occasion when my hound stirs up a ruckus, no one around me cares...their dogs just bark right back.

08-13-2007, 04:25 PM	#31
Chrissy0277 Its all about the yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,451	Thank god its Illegal in NJ __________________ CHRISSY Nikki Precious Lizzy Mimi , Lena Taboo

08-13-2007, 04:35 PM	#32
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	A VERY touchy subject! None of my dogs are debarked. However, I have spoken to a good breeder friend that has considered doing this with her dogs (just the key barkers). It's actually a laser surgery and they can even eat the same day. The neighbor behind us has a poodle that has been debarked. Yes, this dog can still bark (argues with my crew all the time through the fence ). It's just not the shrill, high pitched, make your skin crawl kind of bark. Puppy mills debark in a cruel way (ramming a pipe down their throats). However, if someone were to do it via vet then I'm not going to condemn them. There was a time when I was against it completely and thought it was horribly cruel. However, now days, I try to keep an open mind to things. Training my dogs to not bark is not as easy as it sounds since I'm not there to correct them all day long. Well, OP, good luck in whatever you decide. But, speak to a vet and find out the pros and cons and choose what is best for you, your family and your living arrangements. __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

08-14-2007, 06:00 AM	#33
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	Great information Kimberly! It's nice to know the flip side of the coin. __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

08-14-2007, 06:24 AM	#36
kezza Lovin my Pixie Pooh Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom. Posts: 3,510	OMG!!! What planet have i been living on??? I've never heard of this before! it sounds awful! I don't like Tail Docking either...dogs should be as nature intended as far as i'm concerned..with barks and tails to express themselves. __________________ This Little Girl Has Stolen My Heart! Every Dog Should Have a Tail To Tell.. "I'm a Yorkiestalker"!

08-14-2007, 06:26 AM	#37
adorame YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,312 Blog Entries: 1	Glad to hear that you are not thinking of doing this. I would find a new vet too if mine suggested such a thing. I never heard of de barking a dog before! I feel this is horrible! This is a way a bog communicates, I couldn't imagine having my only form of communication taken away from me! Dogs bark, if you don't like the behavior of an over barker their are other way's to take care of it, like a water bottle, coins in a can, or putting them in another area. I hope you have luck with your baby!

08-15-2007, 02:24 PM	#39
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	I really could care less one way or another about the procedure, mainly because it doesn't involve me and it's just not one of those things that I choose to devote time to concerning myself over. But, I will say that upon first hearing of the procedure, I was as shocked and appalled in a manner reflected by most of the response posts here. But I was even more shocked when I learned how many people actually have the procedure done. I don't mean millers or lazy people who don't want to train their dogs--I mean ethical, long time show breeders. MANY more here on YT than you would think that some of you so opposed to the practice sing praises to everyday...as do I. I spoke with them, heard their experience and reasoning and it made me see things differently. Like I said before, I really don't care one way or another. I don't personally think it would be the best choice for me, but I have no reason to need it. My dogs aren't barkers for the most part and on occasion when my hound stirs up a ruckus, no one around me cares...their dogs just bark right back.