Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1277893)

Sure, I would like to try. I'm not sure where to post it though.

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1276585)

Thank you for the support :) That's very sweet of you. I'm attaching some pictures of him. He's very adorable and learning things so fast. He's a good dog and has a good personality. My boyfriend wants to keep him, but I just really had my heart set on something else. I guess I will know soon enough what I will be doing.

Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 1277945)

Punkie,
Are you denying this pup bc you are MAD at the breeder? You do realize that you are denying YOURSELF precious time to bond and spend nurturing a baby who probably feels lonely! If this pup is TRUELY not what you want (keep in mind you have NO idea how this pup will turn out, or how ANY pup for that matter will turn out) then I hope you find him a new home very quickly where he can get the love, affection and socialization he deserves and needs.

However if you are mad at the breeder, feel like you were duped and don't want to keep the dog bc of the way everything went down, well my biggest suggestion to you is this: all during life you are going to meet people who are good, honest, caring and kind hearted. On the flip side you are going to meet people who would sell thier mom to make a $, who don't care about others, who are lazy and dirty and selfish enough to try to do things the easy way, swindle others if they can. That is just a fact of life. You can look at this guy as an enemy who screwed you over.... or you can look at him as a jerk who happened to breed a pup who can be your best friend and constant companion.

When you come onto a board like this, and you say you are denying a pup, you outright bought, regardless of the HUGE RED FLAGS that you saw where you bought him at, and want SUPPORT from YORKIE LOVERS bc your pup is going to 6lbs and you don't want him... well to the defense of the WONDERFUL people here, this is not the place for you to come for support. The people here CARE about the DOG! And that is not exactly the BEST treatment to give a baby you bought. You are not mean or abusive, nothing like that. Since you are set on wanting a tiny dog you are doing the right thing by trying to find a home for this baby.

People are not mad at you so to speak, but if they are quick to judge its bc stories similar to this come up ALL the time. Its very very sad to see shelters and rescues and all those innocent faces of the pups who were let go bc they did not suit their owner anymore. Getting a pup is a MANY years decision. Its not something you just up & do (unless you are britney spears haha). There are ups and downs with owning any animal. Imagine you get your 3lb dog and he/she has health problems that prevent you from taking him EVERYWHERE?? Then what? You re-home that one too? I think that due to your busy lifestyle right not might not be the best time in your life for a puppy. They need downtime too, as much as some may think it, puppies are NOT cute little accessories that you tote around everywhere with bows in their hair and get compliements. Yes that is a perk but they are soooooo much more work than that.

Please think about getting another dog at this point... think long and hard about it. Its a 15+ year commitment. There are many MANY times I find myself at home with my boys then out and about bc they need me and they are tired from the action the day before and want to curl in moms lap. It would be this case whether I had one or two or a 3lber or a 10lber.

Just think about it! And again, good luck with rehoming him. He is precious and I really wish you'd think it through more before making a final decision.

Originally Posted by Lovin' Gracie (Post 1277994)

Punkie, there is NO WAY to tell how big your pup, or any future pup you buy, will be when grown. Gracie weighed 15 oz. when we got her at 11 weeks old. From her frame you'd think she should weigh about 3 1/2 lbs.--she's very short, BUT her body type turned out to be more stocky. She's probably a bit overweight but it's more her more solid "build"--she's all muscle and weighs close to 5 lbs. now even though she's still very short.

Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 1277945)

Punkie,
Are you denying this pup bc you are MAD at the breeder? You do realize that you are denying YOURSELF precious time to bond and spend nurturing a baby who probably feels lonely! If this pup is TRUELY not what you want (keep in mind you have NO idea how this pup will turn out, or how ANY pup for that matter will turn out) then I hope you find him a new home very quickly where he can get the love, affection and socialization he deserves and needs.

However if you are mad at the breeder, feel like you were duped and don't want to keep the dog bc of the way everything went down, well my biggest suggestion to you is this: all during life you are going to meet people who are good, honest, caring and kind hearted. On the flip side you are going to meet people who would sell thier mom to make a $, who don't care about others, who are lazy and dirty and selfish enough to try to do things the easy way, swindle others if they can. That is just a fact of life. You can look at this guy as an enemy who screwed you over.... or you can look at him as a jerk who happened to breed a pup who can be your best friend and constant companion.

When you come onto a board like this, and you say you are denying a pup, you outright bought, regardless of the HUGE RED FLAGS that you saw where you bought him at, and want SUPPORT from YORKIE LOVERS bc your pup is going to 6lbs and you don't want him... well to the defense of the WONDERFUL people here, this is not the place for you to come for support. The people here CARE about the DOG! And that is not exactly the BEST treatment to give a baby you bought. You are not mean or abusive, nothing like that. Since you are set on wanting a tiny dog you are doing the right thing by trying to find a home for this baby.

People are not mad at you so to speak, but if they are quick to judge its bc stories similar to this come up ALL the time. Its very very sad to see shelters and rescues and all those innocent faces of the pups who were let go bc they did not suit their owner anymore. Getting a pup is a MANY years decision. Its not something you just up & do (unless you are britney spears haha). There are ups and downs with owning any animal. Imagine you get your 3lb dog and he/she has health problems that prevent you from taking him EVERYWHERE?? Then what? You re-home that one too? I think that due to your busy lifestyle right not might not be the best time in your life for a puppy. They need downtime too, as much as some may think it, puppies are NOT cute little accessories that you tote around everywhere with bows in their hair and get compliements. Yes that is a perk but they are soooooo much more work than that.

Please think about getting another dog at this point... think long and hard about it. Its a 15+ year commitment. There are many MANY times I find myself at home with my boys then out and about bc they need me and they are tired from the action the day before and want to curl in moms lap. It would be this case whether I had one or two or a 3lber or a 10lber.

Just think about it! And again, good luck with rehoming him. He is precious and I really wish you'd think it through more before making a final decision.

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1277929)

So you love and respect all living things and care for them? Have you ever eaten meat?

I'm really starting to think that I came to the wrong place for advice and support.

Originally Posted by wengaroni (Post 1277952)

i think i read that you said you're a pretty busy person. if that is the case, yorkies are a demanding breed and require a lot of attention and care. i can attest to this (as many others can too!). my boyfriend bought me this puppy (my first) and it has been a lot of work. since she is my first puppy, i've grown a lot and learned a lot within the past year. all i know is that if you cannot give them the time that they need, then this is not the breed for you.

i really feel bad that you were mislead by that breeder and it has led you to here, but i really do hope you find him a good home so that he will be loved and taken care of.

best wishes.

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1278006)

Well, thanks for the support and encouragement. I do realize how much work a dog is. Actually, my boyfriend and I used to have a Great Dane. No dog is more work than a Dane... We had gotten him as an adult. He was huge (170 lbs) and so much responsibility and we loved him. Unfortunately he had heart problems as most Danes do and couldn't be with us for long. He was my babe and I loved him so much. His name was Kevin. I attached some pictures of him.

My boyfriend and I love huge dogs and tiny dogs.

I am thinking about this still, but I'm trying not to waste precious time for this puppy and trying to find him a home in the mean time.

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1277974)

there is a section called "yorkies for sale" or something along those lines. I am not sure what the qualifications are for posting but you can read all about their rules and guidelines in that same section.

ok...here is a link to the forum http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1278025)

he is BEAUTIFUL....I too have always had danes. here is a pic of my big boy. 42 inches tall at the shoulders, 206 lbs of pure love :)

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1278024)

But no one needs to really worry about this puppy. I'm not a bad person. I would never let him go unless I found an immaculate home for him. If I cannot, then I will keep him. So really, no worries there.

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1278017)

but there is no need in you getting upset because people can't support or encourage the way you feel.

you are right, not everyone feels the same...and we aren't there with you to understand all that you are going through...but in a group of people who have a massive passion for this breed....you will not be getting many responses from people who support your thoughts and decision.

again, i am not trying to be ugly, i do want to do all i can to help this puppy find a great home. i just want you to understand why people are reacting the way they are.

this really is a great place. but it is also a place of diversity, and an extreme passion for this breed...as well as many many others.

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1278045)

The thing is, I'm not getting upset because people are simply not supporting me.

Since I have posted here about this, I have been called "shallow", "irresponsible", I have been accused of "punking" people, only considering my pride and have been attacked by more than one person. I would say that's a but more than simply not being supportive. I don't appreciate the name calling and rude comments and people putting me down for not feeling the exact same way as they do.

People don't have to support me, but they don't have to call me names or accuse me of things I haven't done either. I understand the passion everyone has for their dogs and Yorkies as a breed, but they can have some respect for other "people" too.

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1278045)

The thing is, I'm not getting upset because people are simply not supporting me.

Since I have posted here about this, I have been called "shallow", "irresponsible", I have been accused of "punking" people, only considering my pride and have been attacked by more than one person. I would say that's a but more than simply not being supportive. I don't appreciate the name calling and rude comments and people putting me down for not feeling the exact same way as they do.

People don't have to support me, but they don't have to call me names or accuse me of things I haven't done either. I understand the passion everyone has for their dogs and Yorkies as a breed, but they can have some respect for other "people" too.

Originally Posted by sweetr72 (Post 1278018)

No breeder can guarentee weight...so what happens if you get a tiny puppy and by the time it turns 8 or 9 months it has a big growth spurt and ends up becoming 7-8 pounds or more?? This little guy COULD stay small as no one can predict size?? You can look at a 5 pound baby and say...that child will be a tiny adult or a vice versa....you are just never guarenteed...which is what I dont understand at this point reading the threads so far...he is very small now and could very well be a small dog...or he could be standard or bigger...thats just part of watching a yorkie grow up...I guess my question is how will you know your next puppy will grow up to be the size you want since there are no guarentee's...I hope you find him a new home soon before he gets attached to you...he deserves the best!!

Dawn

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1278056)

I'm just curious and really would like to get some feedback on this.

I've heard of people having tiny puppies that just weighed ounces at around 11-12 weeks and turned out the be 6-8 lbs when grown.

But has anyone here had a puppy who was almost 2 lbs by 11 weeks that turned out the be less than 5 lbs when grown?

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1278025)

he is BEAUTIFUL....I too have always had danes. here is a pic of my big boy. 42 inches tall at the shoulders, 206 lbs of pure love :)

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1278056)

I'm just curious and really would like to get some feedback on this.

I've heard of people having tiny puppies that just weighed ounces at around 11-12 weeks and turned out the be 6-8 lbs when grown.

But has anyone here had a puppy who was almost 2 lbs by 11 weeks that turned out the be less than 5 lbs when grown?

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1278034)

that first picture is him at 9 months...the second pic is at 2 years old with my dad who is 6 ft 4 inches, the 3rd picture is of him at 16 months old.

Originally Posted by Ozzie'sperson (Post 1278053)

I honestly wish you luck in whatever you decide. But just think about it.

I guess more than anything I'm just glad that I didn't have the same expectations as you. Size wasn't even on my mind when I first saw Ozzie.

At 11 weeks, he already weighed 3.3 pounds. He was a typical, all-over-the-place puppy that I just KNEW was going to squirm out of my arms the second I held him. But he didn't. He nestled quietly in the crook of my arm, moving only to nuzzle his head farther up my shoulder. And when I asked him if he was "lovey," he kissed me. Melted my heart on the spot.

I expected that he would be smart, somewhat aloof, and probably 7 pounds like my first Yorkie. Of all those things, I really wanted him to be smart. As it turns out, he is NONE of those things.

He is not the brightest bulb in the pack. Like you, I had my moments of disappointment over that. But, he definitely has his moments that more than make up for it? Aloof? NO WAY! This is my personal shadow. And 7 pounds? Try 7 pounds TIMES TWO.

You have a right to feel however you want. But I can tell you that you may be robbing yourself of a really great experience. I know I sure would have been had I let Ozzie's Forrest Gump IQ sway me. The thing is, much like Forrest, Ozzie is so innocent and sweet and loving and loyal.

It's 10 years later, and I wouldn't have him any other way. :)

Originally Posted by punkie (Post 1278062)

Aww, I love your boy. He is just gorgeous. I heard that harlequins are really rambunctious. Is that true?

Yes, Kevin was beautiful. I miss him a lot.

Originally Posted by sweetr72 (Post 1278078)

Reece looks like your guy at that age..or he might have been a little older in this pic...but he looks just the same...he is my bestest friend..hehe..

Originally Posted by sweetr72 (Post 1278078)

Reece looks like your guy at that age..or he might have been a little older in this pic...but he looks just the same...he is my bestest friend..hehe..

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1278082)

he was a beautiful pup...and a VERY handsome young man :)

Originally Posted by Ozzie'sperson (Post 1278053)

I honestly wish you luck in whatever you decide. But just think about it.

I guess more than anything I'm just glad that I didn't have the same expectations as you. Size wasn't even on my mind when I first saw Ozzie.

At 11 weeks, he already weighed 3.3 pounds. He was a typical, all-over-the-place puppy that I just KNEW was going to squirm out of my arms the second I held him. But he didn't. He nestled quietly in the crook of my arm, moving only to nuzzle his head farther up my shoulder. And when I asked him if he was "lovey," he kissed me. Melted my heart on the spot.

I expected that he would be smart, somewhat aloof, and probably 7 pounds like my first Yorkie. Of all those things, I really wanted him to be smart. As it turns out, he is NONE of those things.

He is not the brightest bulb in the pack. Like you, I had my moments of disappointment over that. But, he definitely has his moments that more than make up for it? Aloof? NO WAY! This is my personal shadow. And 7 pounds? Try 7 pounds TIMES TWO.

You have a right to feel however you want. But I can tell you that you may be robbing yourself of a really great experience. I know I sure would have been had I let Ozzie's Forrest Gump IQ sway me. The thing is, much like Forrest, Ozzie is so innocent and sweet and loving and loyal.

It's 10 years later, and I wouldn't have him any other way. :)