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vainchick5 07-02-2007 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiggerr36792 (Post 1208676)
I think everyone needs to take a chill pill and relax. The OP has remained steady in trying to be as tactful as possible in a bad situation. I realize there are 2 sides to this story, but I feel the OP should be commended for her honest and integrity for keeping this post as unbiased as possible. She has a right to get what she paid for since she kept up her end of a spay/neuter contract.

I'm not going to bash anyone including Sylvan Yorkies, she has a right to choose ignore commenting on this out in public and handle it in a more private way if she so chooses. I'm not god and I surely dont walk on water, we are all human and make mistakes, perhaps she has a reason for this incident and will handle it privately.

As for the OP I hope this is worked out to your satisfaction.

Excellent post Debbie! As always, our little peacemaker :p I agree Michiko needs to get what she paid for, PERIOD.

YorkieRose 07-02-2007 03:53 PM
Sylvan
 
I, for one do NOT want or expect any breeder to post a response to a situation as this...handle it with the buyer. The buyer is in a different position...they should IMO go to Breeder Feedback and post their positive or negative experince.
I see nothing wrong in saying..." I bought a puppy from XXXX Yorkies and have never received papers"..or whatever...that is information that can be useful to a potential buyer. Simply state facts without opinions, which I think the poster did quite well. If she had bought a puppy from me and I had done the same, I would expect to read negative feedback about myself.

genie 07-02-2007 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1208771)
I, for one do NOT want or expect any breeder to post a response to a situation as this...handle it with the buyer. The buyer is in a different position...they should IMO go to Breeder Feedback and post their positive or negative experince.
I see nothing wrong in saying..." I bought a puppy from XXXX Yorkies and have never received papers"..or whatever...that is information that can be useful to a potential buyer. Simply state facts without opinions, which I think the poster did quite well. If she had bought a puppy from me and I had done the same, I would expect to read negative feedback about myself.
:goodpost:

Morkie4 07-02-2007 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1206214)
Make a written complaint to AKC. They frown on breeders selling pups without papers..it hurts their bottom line...even when the pups are not for breeding or retirees..they like for the breeder to give papers and the new owner transfer into their name..keeps the bank acccount full.

This happened to me once and AKC refused to accept further litter applications until the breeder cleared the up the problem..at least this is what the breeder told me and sent a refund check because the puppy could not be registered due to some problem she refused to discuss..I, then had to write AKC and say the matter was settled..she then was able to register her next litter... BUT I got a the President of the YTCA at the time to write AKC backing me up...I want to add I was not a member of the YTCA.
If no response is made to Mickiko from Sylvan Yorkies openly or privately, then I think the above process mentioned by YorkieRose should be started. A contract is a contract........AND simple contact/explanation by Sylvan (5 months is plenty of time for contact to have been made, even by snail mail standards) would have avoided this whole thread being created in the first place.

michiko 07-02-2007 04:34 PM
THe thing is...

The first time I told her about posting something like this if I didn't hear from her. She sent me a pedigree that she made... with AKC logo on it... then I was puzzled.. Maybe she just thought that I was curious to know who was in her family tree... but I needed registration numbers to register... then I got more puzzled.

CO_yorkie_momma 07-02-2007 05:06 PM
Michiko,
Have you checked with AKC to see if the litter has been registered or if there is some kind of problem with the paperwork that you dont know about? I dont even know for sure if that is an option or if they would give you the info. It would be easier if the breeder would just pm you and let you know what is going on so you have some idea what is happening.

tmatherly 07-02-2007 05:12 PM
I'm very, very sad for everyone affected by this situation. I hope that whatever is going on in Stacy's life that is interfering with something that she seemingly loved (breeding) is resolved and that she can handle all the issues. I wonder if she just thinks it's tanked this far and there's no way she can recover....Stacy, if you are out there....it seems all you really need to do is communicate...people are human, everyone has bad times and make mistakes but others are usually way more understanding than you think.
Michiko...love you and Haruka...hope it all works out.
Timmy....wishing Lilly the best.

RLC12345678 07-02-2007 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vainchick5 (Post 1208691)
Excellent post Debbie! As always, our little peacemaker :p I agree Michiko needs to get what she paid for, PERIOD.
I agree.......she deserves to get what she paid for.

Dan & Corinne 07-02-2007 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francie (Post 1207529)
I for one....truly believe Sylvan Yorkies is a dedicated Breeder who loves her Yorkies and takes great care in finding them loving homes.

I think in all FAIRNESS to Stacy.....it would be important to actually hear the OTHER side of the story, before making attempts to dishonor her reputation.

You have admitted publically how happy you are with Haruka......and so I am puzzled on why you would take great pains to Post this. Were you planning on BREEDING Haruka?

Perhaps its my nature.....but I certainly would have taken more PRIVATE steps to address this.

And I'm glad you feel so much better now......irregardless of the consequences to others....


Francie
It seems to me you wrote your opinion without reading the original post.

I feel this post is really unfair to Michiko. I know Michiko really didn't want things to come to this and she gave Stacy more than enough opportunities to settle things privately. What else can she do when the other party won't communicate with her?

Michiko tried over and over and over to contact Stacy and gave her chance after chance to speak to her and to send her the paperwork. I know she honestly wanted to avoid this and she is concerned about Stacy's well being.

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Originally Posted by Francie (Post 1207529)
And I'm glad you feel so much better now......irregardless of the consequences to others....
This comment is totally out of line and very hurtful (IMO). Michiko cares about Stacy and she waited for weeks hoping Stacy would contact her. Starting this thread was very difficult for her to do.

I hope can see it in a different light.

sweetr72 07-02-2007 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan & Corinne (Post 1209238)
It seems to me you wrote your opinion without reading the original post.

I feel this post is really unfair to Michiko. I know Michiko really didn't want things to come to this and she gave Stacy more than enough opportunities to settle things privately. What else can she do when the other party won't communicate with her?

Michiko tried over and over and over to contact Stacy and gave her chance after chance to speak to her and to send her the paperwork. I know she honestly wanted to avoid this and she is concerned about Stacy's well being.



This comment is totally out of line and very hurtful (IMO). Michiko cares about Stacy and she waited for weeks hoping Stacy would contact her. Starting this thread was very difficult for her to do.

I hope can see it in a different light.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Great posting...I hope she contacts Michiko soon so that this can finally be resolved...

Dawn

Dan & Corinne 07-02-2007 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma (Post 1208949)
Michiko,
Have you checked with AKC to see if the litter has been registered or if there is some kind of problem with the paperwork that you dont know about? I dont even know for sure if that is an option or if they would give you the info. It would be easier if the breeder would just pm you and let you know what is going on so you have some idea what is happening.
I don't know if I'm right or not but I was under the impression you can't do a check without a registeration number on the dam - Can AKC check for a litter registeration with just the breeder's name?

Michiko told me she asked Stacy for just the registeration numbers for the litter and/or the dam & sire so she can get the paperwork directly from AKC but she didn't get a reply to this request either.

Shadow 07-02-2007 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francie (Post 1207529)
I for one....truly believe Sylvan Yorkies is a dedicated Breeder who loves her Yorkies and takes great care in finding them loving homes.

I think in all FAIRNESS to Stacy.....it would be important to actually hear the OTHER side of the story, before making attempts to dishonor her reputation.

You have admitted publically how happy you are with Haruka......and so I am puzzled on why you would take great pains to Post this. Were you planning on BREEDING Haruka?

Perhaps its my nature.....but I certainly would have taken more PRIVATE steps to address this.

And I'm glad you feel so much better now......irregardless of the consequences to others....

Francie
You are kidding,right?

michiko 07-02-2007 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 1209266)
You are kidding,right?
That is okay.. I am feeling okay... :)

Monday 07-02-2007 07:02 PM
forewarned is forearmed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan & Corinne (Post 1209238)
It seems to me you wrote your opinion without reading the original post.

I feel this post is really unfair to Michiko. I know Michiko really didn't want things to come to this and she gave Stacy more than enough opportunities to settle things privately. What else can she do when the other party won't communicate with her?

Michiko tried over and over and over to contact Stacy and gave her chance after chance to speak to her and to send her the paperwork. I know she honestly wanted to avoid this and she is concerned about Stacy's well being.



This comment is totally out of line and very hurtful (IMO). Michiko cares about Stacy and she waited for weeks hoping Stacy would contact her. Starting this thread was very difficult for her to do.

I hope can see it in a different light.
you hit the nail on the head, Corinne. Michiko waited a considerable amount of time for Stacey (Sylvan) to respond.
Now she posted out of frustration and disappointment. Perhaps she just wanted to warn us if we were thinking of buying from Stacey.
She waited a generous amount of time while waiting for a response.
I hope Stacey is fine (health wise and family wise), however, I do feel she owes Michiko (and now the rest of us) an explanation.

caveat emptor

Anna Banana 07-02-2007 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by michiko (Post 1209284)
That is okay.. I am feeling okay... :)
Good. I'm glad you're feeling okay in this situation. I know its hard...:(

No one in their right mind would make outrageous comments like that. Rest assured that that poster is by far the minority. The rest of us are here for you.


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