What Happened To Support, Encouragement, and Decency?

[Jaxon's mom]

I agree - it's sometimes upsetting to read some of the negative comments. Sometimes people should think of how they'd feel getting the same negativity thrown at them.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by simonandhallie

I've been a member here for a long time and a moderator for a long time and I am still amazed at things that happen sometimes. I really love this forum as a lot of us do but I am constantly shocked that people will come here to start trouble, argue, debate (in an unhealthy way), criticize, judge, scam and really not think before they type.

I know that I see a lot more of it than most of you but I really want to stress that this is a free forum that provides information, a place to brag, a place to share stories and a place to find help all about the one thing we ALL have in common: our yorkies.

I am not a breeder nor do I show my monkeys but I am still aware enough to realize that those who do have a unique compassion, dedication, wealth of knowledge and love for the yorkie breed. I feel as though they receive the bulk of criticism here and most of the time it is unfair and unjust. I believe that those who breed and show should be supportive of each other, learn from each other and give encouragement. Perhaps this is a optimistic view but none the less it is a positive view.

I think that as a community we should all be respectful, inquisitive, and encouraging of each other. I really don't think that's too much to ask and I sincerely hope it starts to happen.

Maybe we should all follow a simple rule: If you question what you are about to post, step back and read it as if you were a new member and then see how you feel about it.

here here.... this isn't the place for anything negative... we love our babies and lets just all help eachother out!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B

I agree! Many times, I have felt belittled or hurt in some way by some comments. I know that most of us do not have show quality yorkies but we love them with all of our hearts (why be here then?).

Some people get carried away and maybe without realizing it post hurtful things about our 'pet quality' furbabies.

I think we all have room for improvement and I'll be the first to solemly swear to abide by the rule

There does seem to be a strong mindset among some, that all yorkies should be perfect. if that were the case and only perfect yorkies were bred, the cost for yorkies would double or tripple.

I understand that the ideal situation would be to keep the breed perfect, but that's not gonna happen. They puppy mills are pouring poor quality yorkie into the market wevery day, and the unfortunate souls that can't afford to buy the perfect yorkie are falling victim to them.

I know I will take a whipping for this, but:

IMO if there were more pet quality yorkies being produced by honest small or (BYB as some of you refer to them) it might do more to put the rlarge puppy mills out of business then all the legislation that is out there.

Some people just want a yorkie, they don't care if it's doesn't have the perfect coat. And those are the ones that get taken by the puppy mills.

I personally would like to see an ad that stated this yorkie is not going to be perfect but it will give you just as much love as any show dog.

[baby03]

Thank you for all your hard work!!!!!! I know it can't be easy!!

[luvdorkyyorkies]

Given.

Do it or not.

I have spent my life, helping animals.

point taken. Or not.

[shelle2k75]

Originally Posted by simonandhallie

I've been a member here for a long time and a moderator for a long time and I am still amazed at things that happen sometimes. I really love this forum as a lot of us do but I am constantly shocked that people will come here to start trouble, argue, debate (in an unhealthy way), criticize, judge, scam and really not think before they type.

I know that I see a lot more of it than most of you but I really want to stress that this is a free forum that provides information, a place to brag, a place to share stories and a place to find help all about the one thing we ALL have in common: our yorkies.

I am not a breeder nor do I show my monkeys but I am still aware enough to realize that those who do have a unique compassion, dedication, wealth of knowledge and love for the yorkie breed. I feel as though they receive the bulk of criticism here and most of the time it is unfair and unjust. I believe that those who breed and show should be supportive of each other, learn from each other and give encouragement. Perhaps this is a optimistic view but none the less it is a positive view.

I think that as a community we should all be respectful, inquisitive, and encouraging of each other. I really don't think that's too much to ask and I sincerely hope it starts to happen.

Maybe we should all follow a simple rule: If you question what you are about to post, step back and read it as if you were a new member and then see how you feel about it.

Excellent Post!!!! Well said!!!!

[daisysis]

Well I have been attacked and I have become the attacker
Thank you for reminding me why I love this place
to learn, to enjoy, to brag, to YAK, to cry, to laugh, to say AH,
to have fun, to love, to send hugs,prayers, and to meet all of you and the FURBABIES
THANK YOU EVERYONE you all have made me a better person

[TootiesMom]

Great Post! Great job SimonandHallie.... you do a super job here....
Thanks for what you do!
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[Monday]

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

I work in an elementary school and I tell my kids..... Even though you have the RIGHT to say something, it doesn't make it RIGHT to say it.

I agree whole heartedly .... remember the Golden Rule ... live by it .... thanx for the reminder!!!

[Monday]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I personally would like to see an ad that stated this yorkie is not going to be perfect but it will give you just as much love as any show dog.

How wonderfully true!!!!
thanks Jeanie, for the message ...

[Tink's Mom]

Thank you. I love this forum.

[trini&coco]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

here here.... this isn't the place for anything negative... we love our babies and lets just all help eachother out!

Exactly...thats what we are all here for support and information and Yorkies I agree that this forum has taught me a lot and made me a better Yorkie owner/brreder and person!!

[Tiggerwit]

Thanks Kimberly. Do you ever get to sleep or do you spend all your waking hours monitoring?

Everyone is not as knowledgable as others or experienced. Those that are need to realize that at some point they too were in the newbie spot posing the "dumb" questions, and I'm guessing that most of that knowledge came from a learning experience. Aking questions no matter how off they may be is how people learn and become knowledgable so they don't make the wrong choice with their furbabies and can teach others. Try to educate and not lecture or criticize. Would you rather they not ask and possibly cause injury or harm their dog?

[judyeve]

Thanks for all of your hard work as a moderator. I have learned almost everything I know about Yorkies from YorkieTalk.com. Whenever I need advice or have a problem, I immediately come here for help.

By the way Jeannie, your idea is wonderful! I don't want to breed or show and would have been thrilled to have been able to buy a dog bred to be "just a pet," from a reputable breeder who avertised that.

Judy

[Lorraine]

I can see there are however, still a lot of misconceptions about show breeders etc although I have posted this info numerous times. First there is no perfect Yorkie, there is no perfect representative of any purebred dog. Anyone immersed in the world of purebred dogs, knows that information. The purpose of breeding in the show world is to strive to breed as close to the standard as you can.
Simply, a show breeder can plan a mating but the litter may not have a prospective show dog in it and often there may be one or two that are, but one or two that aren't and are sold to pet homes for that loving little pet you are all talking about. You get a nice quality pet, just not what a show breeder would want for the show rings. IF you are dealing with a reputable show breeder, you would get genetic guarantees they will honour, they will be available to help you 24/7, put you through extensive interviews to be sure that dear little pup is indeed getting a good home. They are going to have contracts to ensure you aren't going to breed it as they are protecting their lines and the breed. You have to be sure even if it is a show breeder that the person is a reputable one, those are the kind of things you should be looking for in a breeder you are buying from. If you want to breed, you are going to have to do the whole drill, not just market puppies. Do you seriously think the reputable show breeder is not concerned about the pet home that little puppy goes to they may sell for pet? Darn right they are, that's why they have the contracts they do and will protect that puppy to find the best home possible for it.
Okay, now for what you call the byb or backyard breeder already brought up in this thread. As there is no perfect Yorkie, does that give poetic license to a byb to breed representatives so far from the standard that they end up producing pups that barely look like YOrkies when they attain adulthood?
Well, how about that backyard breeder who has a couple of females or more, a male or two, produces several litters in the year and needs to sell their puppies quickly so advertise anywhere, sell to anyone so they are out of the way before the next litters are due? They are not considered a puppymill as they don't have many many dogs and puppies or at least not to the best of your knowledge, and are kept clean maybe but obviously being bred to make money and what other options do they decide on to get those puppies sold?
How about health guarantees? Are they honoured? What about the breeding stock? HOw much do they actually know about the background going back several generations and what kind of genetic or health issues there may have been in say the last five generations.
There is another factor that likely those of you that are not in show world are not aware of. In the show world, we are very protective of the breed and show dogs in general. That means there is little that anyone does that the whole free world and most of the not so free world, doesn't know about usually the same day the event happened or the incidence was leaked by someone somewhere.
Why? In some cases, perhaps there is little over zealous judging going on especially you will think so if you don't understand or see the whole picture.
Basically, it boils down to that the reputable show breeder would lay down their life if they could and have to protect the breed and their dogs. That's passion for the breed and for their line.