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valbholmes 02-08-2007 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 940001)
I don't give a sh** what you do YOU LIAR. I DID NOT RETURN THE PUPPY 5 DAYS LATER!!!!!!!!!!! I bought the puppy on Saturday Night and returned it MONDAY MORNING!! so, where do you get the 5 days from, you must not know your numbers or how to count. Hence there where no VETERINARIANS open on SUNDAY, you stupid piece of crap loser. And as for my moms puppy it was sick too and it had EYE ULCERS, But she did not want the torment of dealing with such a piece of artwork as yourself, she is older and does not need the stress, SO THAT IS WHY I AM HERE, for the both of us!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
This is where you get so upset. I do not see where they Bash you. All I see is you getting upset and calling names, cause they are going to put everything on here. I can not wait to see it.
SEE THERE ARE 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY!
and it sounds like you do not want there side on here!

valbholmes 02-08-2007 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BrushyCreek (Post 939755)
I have all the e-mails and the full story to the situation I had with you. Would you like me to post it all on this sight? I would be happy to post on this sight the conversations I had with you and your brother-in-law attorney. I do keep files on all my customers and yours is quite large and I would be happy to post it on this sight so everyone can see you just plain and simply cannot be made happy no matter what. I bent over back wards to accomodate you. Your mother that also purchased a dog from me didn't seem to have any problems but you who has slammed the crap out of me are not telling the full story here and never even took your pup in for a vet check when you returned it to me 5 days later. Do you really want me to post all the information I have on your file on this website??? I would be happy to do so.
Still trying to see where they insult you?

SweetCuteness 02-08-2007 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 940266)
I think everyone is a member here! Is it ok for you to say all the things you have said? What is the difference? I do not see how he was rude, but I do see where you got all upset, and started name calling!
So this is the internet, if you do not want your things on here, you should not put other peoples private stuff on here.
What kind of dogs did you buy from them? I think I remember reading that you did not even have a Yorkie. Why are you other than to bash Brushy Creek?
I am glad they are on here, telling all the sides of the stories. You have said plenty, and now they are saying what really happened with you. What is the problem with that?
valbholmes - keep in mind that there ARE two sides to every story and that when someone is being bashed they sometimes make "white lies" about a situation or stretch the truth. So what you've read from Mr. Moore about "what really happened" with WolfShepherd, may not really be the truth... or not the whole truth. When someone lies about you - or stretches the truth - you would be mad too. So just keep that in mind when the accusations start.

valbholmes 02-08-2007 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SweetCuteness (Post 940285)
valbholmes - keep in mind that there ARE two sides to every story and that when someone is being bashed they sometimes make "white lies" about a situation or stretch the truth. So what you've read from Mr. Moore about "what really happened" with WolfShepherd, may not really be the truth... or not the whole truth. When someone lies about you - or stretches the truth - you would be mad too. So just keep that in mind when the accusations start.
I am keeping that in mind. I am just curious why she got defensive all of a sudden? WHy all the name calling? That is usually what happens when somone is a little guilty, and been caught at it!

woofshepherd 02-08-2007 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 940266)
I think everyone is a member here! Is it ok for you to say all the things you have said? What is the difference? I do not see how he was rude, but I do see where you got all upset, and started name calling!
So this is the internet, if you do not want your things on here, you should not put other peoples private stuff on here.
What kind of dogs did you buy from them? I think I remember reading that you did not even have a Yorkie. Why are you other than to bash Brushy Creek?
I am glad they are on here, telling all the sides of the stories. You have said plenty, and now they are saying what really happened with you. What is the problem with that?
I was the one that had 2 sick puppies so don't you think that would be enough to upset anyone??? I'm pretty sure you would be mad too if it happened to you, unless you don't have a heart and just don't care. No I did not have a yorkie, I bought a shih tzu, the reason I am on here is because when I was investigateing brushy creek I did a google search and found this site with the complaints about them, I just wanted to get my story out so that others don't make the same mistake I did, is that a problem?? And how do you know what really happened, where you there???

woofshepherd 02-08-2007 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 940274)
This is where you get so upset. I do not see where they Bash you. All I see is you getting upset and calling names, cause they are going to put everything on here. I can not wait to see it.
SEE THERE ARE 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY!
and it sounds like you do not want there side on here!
Ok so thats why I said I don't give a sh** what they do??? they can put whatever they want to on here, they're a bunch of liars anyways so I doubt anyone will believe them.

woofshepherd 02-08-2007 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 940293)
I am keeping that in mind. I am just curious why she got defensive all of a sudden? WHy all the name calling? That is usually what happens when somone is a little guilty, and been caught at it!
The reason I got all defensive is because why did he have to put my whole name on here, that is called privacy. Would you like your name being put on here or anywhere online??? I don't have nothing to hide and I have pictures and vet bills and any evidence people want, I am the victim here, put yourself in my place.

valbholmes 02-08-2007 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 940306)
I was the one that had 2 sick puppies so don't you think that would be enough to upset anyone??? I'm pretty sure you would be mad too if it happened to you, unless you don't have a heart and just don't care. No I did not have a yorkie, I bought a shih tzu, the reason I am on here is because when I was investigateing brushy creek I did a google search and found this site with the complaints about them, I just wanted to get my story out so that others don't make the same mistake I did, is that a problem?? And how do you know what really happened, where you there???
No I was not there, and I do not know what really happened. Only you and Brushy Creek know what happened.
I am just reading that, you have said plenty about them, and now they are going to show documents on you, you got all upset and started calling them names. You started asking if that could be put on her, cause it is your private stuff, that made me wonder about your side of the story. Almost like you have something to hide!
i do have a heart. If I did not have a heart, I would not have animals, kids, husband, and friends!
I guess you are trying to question me now, cause I am trying to understand all the angles on here. I did buy Yorkies from them, and have had no problems.
You say you want you story out here, why can they not tell thier side of that story? This is what I am getting from you.....I can say what I want, but they cannot....they are just liars.....who is to say you have not stretched the truth a little?

valbholmes 02-08-2007 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 940313)
Ok so thats why I said I don't give a sh** what they do??? they can put whatever they want to on here, they're a bunch of liars anyways so I doubt anyone will believe them.
again name calling is what I pointing out. You seem to be getting very deffensive. Another I am trying to point out. Why would you be like that?
If everything you are saying is true? There should be no reason in it.

woofshepherd 02-08-2007 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 940333)
No I was not there, and I do not know what really happened. Only you and Brushy Creek know what happened.
I am just reading that, you have said plenty about them, and now they are going to show documents on you, you got all upset and started calling them names. You started asking if that could be put on her, cause it is your private stuff, that made me wonder about your side of the story. Almost like you have something to hide!
i do have a heart. If I did not have a heart, I would not have animals, kids, husband, and friends!
I guess you are trying to question me now, cause I am trying to understand all the angles on here. I did buy Yorkies from them, and have had no problems.
You say you want you story out here, why can they not tell thier side of that story? This is what I am getting from you.....I can say what I want, but they cannot....they are just liars.....who is to say you have not stretched the truth a little?
I don't have nothing to hide, I have not stretched the truth at all, but hey you can believe whoever you want. I would not be spending all the extra time to bash someone for no reason, there is a reason and a big one. Every time he puts something on here about my case it is a lie, don't you get it he's trying to make himself look good and/or cover-up some of his wrong-doings. Believe what you'd like.... I am through talking to you, you are wasteing my time.

valbholmes 02-08-2007 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 940350)
I don't have nothing to hide, I have not stretched the truth at all, but hey you can believe whoever you want. I would not be spending all the extra time to bash someone for no reason, there is a reason and a big one. Every time he puts something on here about my case it is a lie, don't you get it he's trying to make himself look good and/or cover-up some of his wrong-doings. Believe what you'd like.... I am through talking to you, you are wasteing my time.
I am sorry I am taking your time from bashing.
I never ment to do that. I just saw where you got upset, when they said they were going to put your paper work on here. That is all I was pointing out. I just see them defending themselves. You are the one who keeps saying thier lying, do you have proof?
I saw where you said you bought a sick dog from them, and you said your mom's was to......you took your dog back, but not your moms. I do not understand that? So that is where I started questioning you, and who is really lying!

gigismom 02-08-2007 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by valbholmes (Post 940370)
I am sorry I am taking your time from bashing.
I never ment to do that. I just saw where you got upset, when they said they were going to put your paper work on here. That is all I was pointing out. I just see them defending themselves. You are the one who keeps saying thier lying, do you have proof?
I saw where you said you bought a sick dog from them, and you said your mom's was to......you took your dog back, but not your moms. I do not understand that? So that is where I started questioning you, and who is really lying!
I don't think she has a problem with them posting her paperwork. I think she has a problem with personal information (name, phone number, address, alternate email address information, credit card information, etc) that might be in that paperwork being posted on a public forum. That's why she said something about privacy issues. To be honest, any person on this forum would take issue with that.

I really don't think anybody owes you any proof. You obviously haven't done your homework if you think that the people who post on this forum are the only ones that have issues with how this man does business. Take a look at his BBB reports (they are available online).

I would also suggest that instead of continuing this dialog demanding proof that he is selling sick puppies, you go hug the 2 healthy pups you claim to have bought from him and thank your higher being that you are one of the lucky ones.

Of course this is just MY humble opinion.

BCKFan 02-08-2007 09:33 AM
Brushy Creek is a good place to buy puppies!!!
 
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Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 940350)
I don't have nothing to hide, I have not stretched the truth at all, but hey you can believe whoever you want. I would not be spending all the extra time to bash someone for no reason, there is a reason and a big one. Every time he puts something on here about my case it is a lie, don't you get it he's trying to make himself look good and/or cover-up some of his wrong-doings. Believe what you'd like.... I am through talking to you, you are wasteing my time.

Dear WOOFSHPHERD. I worked at Brushy Creek Kennel in the office and dealt with you personally myself on several occasions. (by the way, these are not lies as you call them). You were very rude, inpatient & left rude messages on the voicemail. Nothing we ever did could make you happy and I know that because I tried myself. I went out of my way try to find you a puppy you would be happy with. You were NEVER EVER happy with any of the pictures I sent you of different puppies to choose from. We would tell you when a new litter was born so you could come out and choose one, but that wasn't good enough either. You insisted that we meet you and when we finally decided enough is enough, you cussed us out for that too! You obviously will never be happy and are obviously a very negative, unhappy, person. I've had enough of your LIES and your crap myself after reading all this- it's depressing!!! I've never met just one person that can bring so much NEGATIVITY to anything in my life!

CO_yorkie_momma 02-08-2007 09:35 AM
Val,
Did you stop to think that maybe no one is lying here. I dont think name calling is solving anything. Woofshephard feels she has been wrong and Brushy Creek feel like they did what they could to solve the dispute. This isnt for you to decide so why not let up on her. She is distraught and you arent helping matters at all. You werent there and dont know a thing about what took place between them. You can state your opinion, but as far as her case goes, maybe it would be best to leave it to them to work out since she isnt going on hearsay, she was involved personally.

I wanted to add that woofshepard has as much right to be here as you do. We didnt think much of your motives for being here either so dont question hers.

gigismom 02-08-2007 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BCKFan (Post 940408)
Dear ,<snip name>/WOOFSHPHERD. I worked at Brushy Creek Kennel in the office and dealt with you personally myself on several occasions. (by the way, these are not lies as you call them). You were very rude, inpatient & left rude messages on the voicemail. Nothing we ever did could make you happy and I know that because I tried myself. I went out of my way try to find you a puppy you would be happy with. You were NEVER EVER happy with any of the pictures I sent you of different puppies to choose from. We would tell you when a new litter was born so you could come out and choose one, but that wasn't good enough either. You insisted that we meet you and when we finally decided enough is enough, you cussed us out for that too! You obviously will never be happy and are obviously a very negative, unhappy, person. I've had enough of your LIES and your crap myself after reading all this- it's depressing!!! I've never met just one person that can bring so much NEGATIVITY to anything in my life!

Maybe instead of offering her additional puppies after she already received 2 sick puppies from your mill, you should have completely refunded all of her money and vet expenses and be done with it.


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