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valbholmes 02-07-2007 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegirl83 (Post 939736)
ValB-- I've done a lot, a lot, a LOT of research regarding good and bad breeders. I know that if there are multiple reports of sick puppies to stear clear. I just don't see how there is another side to the story -- he has sold sick puppies plain and simple. In my opinion, there is no excusing that and wether he breeds 10,000 puppies a year or 10.. if they are sick, they are sick and it's inexcusable.

I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion on this guy.. and if anyone wants to believe he's legit that is their business, but I will not advocate what he does and won't feel sorry for him getting talked about on forums badly because of all that has happened.
Well I bought 2 Yorkies from him. I have had no problems! I hate to see someone so bad mouthed, when do we really know it is all true? I asked sevral times on this thread who had actually bought a sick dog from him, and noone could tell me! I take that back I think 1 person said it. Everything else was hear say!
It is so funny how the news (FOX) looked liked thier report was all hear say to. Hell I am now reading that the lady that they did the interview with was a puppy mill person to! What does that tell me?....it tells me, she did not like the compitition, so she is working very hard to get rid of it! I am in buisness for myself, ( not Dogs) and thier have been other companies bad mouth me, just to get the job! So far this is what it looks like to me!

valbholmes 02-07-2007 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ArielsMom (Post 939737)
I think Brushy Creek spends so much time posting and reading on this board....time he should be spending taking care of his sick puppies!
Where are your kids, and fur babies?

yorkiegirl83 02-07-2007 10:25 PM
Look at ripoffreport.com and you'll find NUMEROUS reports ValB.

And btw I'm fairly sure ArielsMom's furkids are all snuggled up with her, not out, sick in kennels.

ArielsMom 02-07-2007 10:30 PM
That is so right Yorkiegirl, my kids are asleep and so are my healthy furbabies, with my yorkie, Ariel snuggled on my lap as I type.

BrushyCreek 02-07-2007 10:37 PM
Wolf Shepard
 
I have all the e-mails and the full story to the situation I had with you. Would you like me to post it all on this sight? I would be happy to post on this sight the conversations I had with you and your brother-in-law attorney. I do keep files on all my customers and yours is quite large and I would be happy to post it on this sight so everyone can see you just plain and simply cannot be made happy no matter what. I bent over back wards to accomodate you. Your mother that also purchased a dog from me didn't seem to have any problems but you who has slammed the crap out of me are not telling the full story here and never even took your pup in for a vet check when you returned it to me 5 days later. Do you really want me to post all the information I have on your file on this website??? I would be happy to do so.

BrushyCreek 02-07-2007 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ArielsMom (Post 939737)
I think Brushy Creek spends so much time posting and reading on this board....time he should be spending taking care of his sick puppies!
You are absolutely right! I have been on this site for the past 3 hours defending myself now I need to go check on all my pups and tuck them in for the night. I am signing off now. I don't usually sign on until later in the evenings because I am busy taking care of and selling healthy puppies all day long.

JiggityJig 02-07-2007 10:50 PM
Mr. Moore, if you have time could you please address the fact that so many people claim to have been sent the wrong dog by you?

Thank you.

midnightmist 02-08-2007 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BrushyCreek (Post 939710)
Co. Yorkie Momma

. The puppies I import come from small operations not puppy mills like everyone thinks. I have seen these places myself and personnally know most of these breeders some of them are my family members in Ireland and England.
I am in England and would like to know where these dogs are breed.For you to import so many surely these operations are bigger than you say.Are you part of Englands puppy mill scams

dobiedude 02-08-2007 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 939631)
That statement was rude and uncalled for...dobie, are you the 14yr old on this site the one everyones talking about???
Yes, I am sorry I didn't mean to offend you woof. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. Will you forgive me?
If not oh well I will live I guess But I do not know how!:rolleyes:

dobiedude 02-08-2007 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegirl83 (Post 939637)
We DO have open minds. But what you need to understand is that just because every single dog that has come out of his "kennel" is not sick.. that does NOT MAKE IT OKAY to do the things he has done to other people who have received sick dogs. There is no way that having a dog for a short while could make them that deathly ill... that is just another excuse. How would you feel if your dogs had gotten to your house for a few hours, gotten ridiculously violently sick and then died? Leaving you with the vet bills, the heartache, and you have paid for a dog three times over that died?

It is WRONG on all accounts, no matter how you slice it.
Oh contrair a dog can to become sick in a matter of hours. I got a dog from the SPCA that contracted parvo from one of the Dog friendly stores (Petsmart) I had the puppy with me and there were several others who contracted this. Before you ask yes the dog was vaccinated (SPCA did it) So it can and does happen.
My question is how many new owners take their puppies to places like that before they go home? I think many people would be shocked at how easy it is for a puppy to come in contact with many of these illnesses.

woofshepherd 02-08-2007 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dobiedude (Post 939941)
Yes, I am sorry I didn't mean to offend you woof. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. Will you forgive me?
If not oh well I will live I guess But I do not know how!:rolleyes:
I forgive you dobie, no hard feelings, right? :rolleyes: :D

SweetCuteness 02-08-2007 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dobiedude (Post 939944)
Oh contrair a dog can to become sick in a matter of hours. I got a dog from the SPCA that contracted parvo from one of the Dog friendly stores (Petsmart) I had the puppy with me and there were several others who contracted this. Before you ask yes the dog was vaccinated (SPCA did it) So it can and does happen.
My question is how many new owners take their puppies to places like that before they go home? I think many people would be shocked at how easy it is for a puppy to come in contact with many of these illnesses.
But dobie, many of the things the puppies supposedly contracted have an incubation period of 5 or more days - those aren't things that are just "picked up" at a store/wherever and show up during the vet exam the next day.

SweetCuteness 02-08-2007 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BrushyCreek (Post 939630)
So yes - I vaccinate, worm, dip, clip, groom, and whelp my own dogs. This is not against the law and the last time I checked - either is having a puppy farm. I agree there are many puppy mills out there that the dogs are in terrible conditions and they do need to be closed. My kennel is not in that category. I do my best to take good care of all my animals and I think the Houston SPCA will agree with that (as you all already know). You might think it's wrong for me to make a living the way I do and your entitled to your opinion. I grew up in Ireland on a farm and my family was not well off by any means. I didn't have the priviledge of even finishing high school let alone going to college because I was needed at home to work on the farm. I know a lot about animals - all kinds of animals not just dogs. I have a lot of respect for animals and I do care about animals despite what you all think. The puppies don't leave my yard sick but like I said before we are dealing with live animals here ....

Mr. Moore,

Can I ask what the difference is between a "Puppy Farm" as you put it, and a puppy mill?


I also do agree about the comment with the grass. That is something that should be looked into. I was told my dog should only be on the grass/outside to go potty and not go on grass where other dogs had been until he was fully vaccinated. Perhaps the puppies are contracting something there, and the symptoms are not showing until they are with their new family as the parasite/bacteria/whatever is still in its incubation period?

woofshepherd 02-08-2007 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SweetCuteness (Post 940239)
Mr. Moore,

Can I ask what the difference is between a "Puppy Farm" as you put it, and a puppy mill?


I also do agree about the comment with the grass. That is something that should be looked into. I was told my dog should only be on the grass/outside to go potty and not go on grass where other dogs had been until he was fully vaccinated. Perhaps the puppies are contracting something there, and the symptoms are not showing until they are with their new family as the parasite/bacteria/whatever is still in its incubation period?
Thank you, My point exactly. But instead he insults me and calls me out. Isn't there a rule on here about privacy rights for yorkietalk members???

valbholmes 02-08-2007 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 940255)
Thank you, My point exactly. But instead he insults me and calls me out. Isn't there a rule on here about privacy rights for yorkietalk members???
I think everyone is a member here! Is it ok for you to say all the things you have said? What is the difference? I do not see how he was rude, but I do see where you got all upset, and started name calling!
So this is the internet, if you do not want your things on here, you should not put other peoples private stuff on here.
What kind of dogs did you buy from them? I think I remember reading that you did not even have a Yorkie. Why are you other than to bash Brushy Creek?
I am glad they are on here, telling all the sides of the stories. You have said plenty, and now they are saying what really happened with you. What is the problem with that?


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