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MikeM · 05-09-2005, 01:35 PM

Just to add a little bit more information about PETA, their founding principles are that animals should be totally and completely free. This sounds great on paper, but what it really means is that they feel ALL animals should be released from "imprisonment" by humans, and yes, that even means they are not in favor of people having pets of any kind....even your beloved Yorkie.

So when I see someone who loves (and has) pets, and is also a PETA member, it always seems quite contradictory. There seem to be much better organizations out there to stop puppy mills.

I typed "Stop Puppy Mills" in Google, and guess what? There's actually www.stoppuppymills.com

I know absolutely nothing about this organization, but their "Take Action" tab from the web site seems very good, and not one that is solely promotion for their own gain. They have some good steps of action listed here:

http://www.stoppuppymills.com/takeaction.asp

Hope this info helps.

StewiesMom · 05-09-2005, 01:44 PM

Great site FastEddie. I have some problems with PETA, but I think they make a lot of people aware of a lot of things. They are much too radical/out of control for my taste though.

YorkieRose · 05-09-2005, 03:27 PM

As with any organization, a person can be as invoved or uninvolved as they choose..but that does not change the bylaws, or doctrine of that group. I can join a church and go once a year or everyday..the beliefs of the church are the same..is that not correct?
I see nothing radical about the rescues we have mentioned here..they attack the problem where it is and put their funding into saving the dogs...I admire the ones who buy from dog auctions..NOmorepuppymills seems tip top to me.JMO

whispersmom2 · 05-09-2005, 03:56 PM

I have for several years financially supported an org that raises tremendous amts of money to first go to auctions for mostly millers and buy those poor dogs. It gets them out of the cycle of the most horrible of animal abuses. They then vet every single dog and foster it then place it. They unfortunately, can only rescue their chosen breed which is Bichons. SmallPawsRescue is one of the most above-board rescue orgs I have been able to find in my research. I wish that I could say their job is getting smaller, but unfortunately that is not the case. For every miller who loses out on a preg. female at the auctions, another 5 step in and fill in the void and supply these wonderful companion animals to some of the worst of the worst.
Babies are piled into un airconditioned vans crate on top of crate and side to side. There is NO space for the driver to even give fresh water. If a dog dies toss it in a garbage can. Don't know it is dying, no prob. wait til it dies and THEN trash it. Now comes the problem of records. Oh, got 3 sets of papers on a crate and only 1 puppy still alive-no prob. Grab a paper, grab a puppy and hand them over to a pre-arranged shop. The broker is the middle man who buys all of the puppies and re-sells to pet shops. One broker peddles as many as 85,000 puppies a year!!!!! Now, if there were no market would they continue to rpoduce them at this rate? Not on your life. There has to be breen stuff-MONEY! These statements are my opinions but are based on over 3 years of researching. You do not have to agree with me BUT you o owe it to your beloved companion animals to take a look for yourselves.
Mercy Me! I did it again. I am sorry about getting on the soapbox BUT I am NOT sorry for stating my opinions as each member can do..

SoCalyorkiLvr · 05-09-2005, 04:39 PM

Maybe we can do what they do for Bichons for Yorkies!

05-09-2005, 01:44 PM	#17
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	Great site FastEddie. I have some problems with PETA, but I think they make a lot of people aware of a lot of things. They are much too radical/out of control for my taste though. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

05-09-2005, 03:27 PM	#18
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	Peta As with any organization, a person can be as invoved or uninvolved as they choose..but that does not change the bylaws, or doctrine of that group. I can join a church and go once a year or everyday..the beliefs of the church are the same..is that not correct? I see nothing radical about the rescues we have mentioned here..they attack the problem where it is and put their funding into saving the dogs...I admire the ones who buy from dog auctions..NOmorepuppymills seems tip top to me.JMO

05-09-2005, 01:35 PM	#16
MikeM Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 77	Just to add a little bit more information about PETA, their founding principles are that animals should be totally and completely free. This sounds great on paper, but what it really means is that they feel ALL animals should be released from "imprisonment" by humans, and yes, that even means they are not in favor of people having pets of any kind....even your beloved Yorkie. So when I see someone who loves (and has) pets, and is also a PETA member, it always seems quite contradictory. There seem to be much better organizations out there to stop puppy mills. I typed "Stop Puppy Mills" in Google, and guess what? There's actually www.stoppuppymills.com I know absolutely nothing about this organization, but their "Take Action" tab from the web site seems very good, and not one that is solely promotion for their own gain. They have some good steps of action listed here: http://www.stoppuppymills.com/takeaction.asp Hope this info helps.

05-09-2005, 03:56 PM	#19
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	I have for several years financially supported an org that raises tremendous amts of money to first go to auctions for mostly millers and buy those poor dogs. It gets them out of the cycle of the most horrible of animal abuses. They then vet every single dog and foster it then place it. They unfortunately, can only rescue their chosen breed which is Bichons. SmallPawsRescue is one of the most above-board rescue orgs I have been able to find in my research. I wish that I could say their job is getting smaller, but unfortunately that is not the case. For every miller who loses out on a preg. female at the auctions, another 5 step in and fill in the void and supply these wonderful companion animals to some of the worst of the worst. Babies are piled into un airconditioned vans crate on top of crate and side to side. There is NO space for the driver to even give fresh water. If a dog dies toss it in a garbage can. Don't know it is dying, no prob. wait til it dies and THEN trash it. Now comes the problem of records. Oh, got 3 sets of papers on a crate and only 1 puppy still alive-no prob. Grab a paper, grab a puppy and hand them over to a pre-arranged shop. The broker is the middle man who buys all of the puppies and re-sells to pet shops. One broker peddles as many as 85,000 puppies a year!!!!! Now, if there were no market would they continue to rpoduce them at this rate? Not on your life. There has to be breen stuff-MONEY! These statements are my opinions but are based on over 3 years of researching. You do not have to agree with me BUT you o owe it to your beloved companion animals to take a look for yourselves. Mercy Me! I did it again. I am sorry about getting on the soapbox BUT I am NOT sorry for stating my opinions as each member can do..

05-09-2005, 04:39 PM	#20
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Maybe we can do what they do for Bichons for Yorkies!