Puupy Mill in PA ???

[Gingergirlsmom]

Originally Posted by Emmsmom

I swear I thought I saw a puppy mill this weekend. We went to Lancaster, Pa to an air show and on the way back I saw what looked like a puppy mill. I saw 2 stacked rows of dogs (long rows).We went by so fast that all I saw on the top of what looked like a barn was kennel. I told my DH that I didn't have any idea that it would have been a boarding kennel. You could see it from the road. We were on interstate 81 south right around Harrisonburg. It was so odd. I even saw people walking around looking at the dogs! Now if I can see this from the road and it was a puppy mill then why hasn't it been shut down? They surely weren't trying to hide anything... How sad!!

Michelle

Umm, 81 South around Harrisonburg, PA? I'm just trying to picture where you were..could you mean Harrisburg? If so, it probably wasn't Amish as there are not many near Harrisburg.

Unfortunately, pa is known for puppy mills, and I have seen some in Lancaster, but would be interested in more info on where you were.
Thanks.

[Emmsmom]

Yep they had some kind of odd looking tennis shoes on. No we didn't stay for a dance. I didn't know they had one. It wasn't on the schedule thingy we had. It might have been for the volunteers I'm not sure. We volunteered at a fly-in once and they had a lot of extra perks for us.Oh and yeah we went on Saturday.

I will have to say that the Mennonites that sat right behind us had no manners at all. I was actually kinda shocked.

Michelle

[Gingergirlsmom]

Originally Posted by red98vett

You saw a mill.

IN my opinion - any facility that houses dogs OUTSIDE in all the elements are a mill. No dog should have to spend cold winters and hot summers sitting inside a cage with nothing but wire to stand on.

I could care less if the Amish run them or the Pope (NOT intended to offend anyone) but a Mill is a Mill - there are bad ones....really bad ones - and just plain Evil hell holes.

I wish our country would wake up and act like they care - and I especially mean that about people in power. How hard is it to say ..."THIS IS WRONG"...and put a stop to it ?

[Emmsmom]

Yeah thats what I meant Harrisburg. Your are right it probably wasn't the Amish. I don't mean to sound harsh and say all Amish are this way. I just know a LOT are and this is the area we were in. But you are right that wasn't really Amish country at that point. You could see it from 81. We were on 81 south and it was on the right hand side of the road. Hold on, now my husband says it was one 581 west. We were almost to 81. Sorry I cant' give directions to save my life.

Michelle

[yorkieangel]

Originally Posted by red98vett

You saw a mill.

IN my opinion - any facility that houses dogs OUTSIDE in all the elements are a mill. No dog should have to spend cold winters and hot summers sitting inside a cage with nothing but wire to stand on.

I could care less if the Amish run them or the Pope (NOT intended to offend anyone) but a Mill is a Mill - there are bad ones....really bad ones - and just plain Evil hell holes.

I wish our country would wake up and act like they care - and I especially mean that about people in power. How hard is it to say ..."THIS IS WRONG"...and put a stop to it ?

jeez V... I didn't say it wasn't I just can't really say at all. I do know around here alot of the kennels(like boarding kennels) are like that too. Plus it might even have been a dog auction

[Gingergirlsmom]

I'm just asking, cuz I'm trying to figure out what you saw. Can't picture anything like that right off the highway...and if it's in my own back yard, I feel pretty strongly about looking into it. I certainly took no offense about the Amish comments, was just trying to help clarify.

Yikes, I really feel for those poor pups!

[yorkieangel]

Originally Posted by Emmsmom

Yep they had some kind of odd looking tennis shoes on. No we didn't stay for a dance. I didn't know they had one. It wasn't on the schedule thingy we had. It might have been for the volunteers I'm not sure. We volunteered at a fly-in once and they had a lot of extra perks for us.Oh and yeah we went on Saturday.

I will have to say that the Mennonites that sat right behind us had no manners at all. I was actually kinda shocked.

Michelle

The airshow usually runs Saturday and Sunday. saturday is the better day because they have the actually AIRSHOW and the hanger dance saturday night. You just buy tickets and go in. I never went to the dance myself but I here lots of people go. It is supposed to have music like the old kind from the war and everybody is dancing the old dances

[Emmsmom]

Thats just it I don't know if it was one or not. But I know what I saw just didn't seem right. You would think if it was one it would have been have been reported by now especially since it was in the open. I am just so thankful that I know my baby didn't come from one.

Michelle

[Gingergirlsmom]

Well, hope it didn't ruin what sounded like an otherwise good trip. I'll be driving down 581 and looking for signs of something suspicious...

BTW, when we were looking for a pup we stumbled into one of these "puppy mills" in Lancaster. Nearly broke my heart.

[yorkieangel]

Originally Posted by Emmsmom

Thats just it I don't know if it was one or not. But I know what I saw just didn't seem right. You would think if it was one it would have been have been reported by now especially since it was in the open. I am just so thankful that I know my baby didn't come from one.

Michelle

LOl.. That is what I was trying to explain before I got off on my AMISH tangent What you saw is LEGAL... . What needs to be done is some LAW CHANGING

[Emmsmom]

Oh man my husband would have loved that!! He loves big band music! The only problem is that I have no idea how to do those dances!! Ginger, I don't mind answering the questions at all so don't worry about it. If I can help and let others know about a potenial puppymill thats all I want.

Michelle

[yorkieangel]

Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

Well, hope it didn't ruin what sounded like an otherwise good trip. I'll be driving down 581 and looking for signs of something suspicious...

BTW, when we were looking for a pup we stumbled into one of these "puppy mills" in Lancaster. Nearly broke my heart.

Do you know which one it was.. I mean do you know where you were when yuo saw it?????? To tell the TRUTH.. ALOT of theREALLY big ones do NOT do sales to regular people. They sell to brokers and such.ther atre only actualla few I know of that are BIG that sell to regular people.. pretty sad though because i know a dozen or more of the smaller ones.. which is BAD ENOUGH

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by yorkieangel

jeez V... I didn't say it wasn't I just can't really say at all. I do know around here alot of the kennels(like boarding kennels) are like that too. Plus it might even have been a dog auction

lol....I know you didn't silly - I just threw out my opinion - you know I have a big mouth about mills and you're right it could have been something else ...(but I DOUBT IT ) & those auctions do suck just as bad

[Gingergirlsmom]

It probably wasn't one of the big ones, but they had two rooms in the barn. One for small dogs, one for large. In the small dog room they had bins and chicken wire cages full of puppies. Yorkies, silkies, jack russels, schnauzers, shih tzus, etc.... Some cages had 10 +pups in them. Seriously, the way my heart broke I almost brought one home. All I remember is turning right off of 30, seems there is some kind of a sign. I'm sure there are much worse conditions, but this certainly wasn't what I would consider a quality program. Especially not after what I've learned here on Yorkietalk.

[yorkieangel]

Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

It probably wasn't one of the big ones, but they had two rooms in the barn. One for small dogs, one for large. In the small dog room they had bins and chicken wire cages full of puppies. Yorkies, silkies, jack russels, schnauzers, shih tzus, etc.... Some cages had 10 +pups in them. Seriously, the way my heart broke I almost brought one home. All I remember is turning right off of 30, seems there is some kind of a sign. I'm sure there are much worse conditions, but this certainly wasn't what I would consider a quality program. Especially not after what I've learned here on Yorkietalk.

HAHAHAH I'm sorry I couldn't help laughing. Yo said You turned right off of 30 and there was a sign....That describes about EVERY exit on 30 which is LONGGGGGGGGG