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Old 08-24-2006, 04:51 AM   #16
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I'm sorry but that's BULL that they need donations to rescue them. THE pictures are enough for the ASPCA to step in and take those poor dogs.

I had a neighbor who had a dog that was suffering horribly in the hot sun 2 years ago with 1/3 of his skin just raw (I don't know what was wrong) Chanel alerted me to him by barking and whining at MY fence.

He had gone and layed in the corner of his yard I THINK... To die - When I saw there was a dog in the yard - I climbed way up on my fence to take a look and was SHOCKED - So I got out my camera - took pictures & with my zoom lens. I also called the Houston ASPCA and emailed them too with the pictures along with the address and cross streets.

They came within less than 48 hours and saved that dog. They did NOT need a donation to save that dog !!! Ernie at the ASPCA (who is on Houston Cops) called me to tell me if it weren't for the pictures - they wouldn't have acted so fast but that was the clincher for them to move quickly.

These people need to notify the authorities and get all those dogs out of there. I HATE people who let dogs suffer like that...I just HATE THEM !

ps...THE PICTURE I posted is NOT as graphic as the other ones I took - (I don't want to upset anyone) - but this is that poor baby trying to look at me while I talked to him.... He never did get up and try to walk towards me. When I saw this poor guy I wanted to jump that fence and just SMACK his owner.


This is just horrible, Villette I am so glad you found out about that poor dog and was able to contact the ASPCA in time.
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Old 08-24-2006, 04:55 AM   #17
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OMG how could someone walk away and leave dogs that look like that without calling local authorities! that's horrid! those POOR dogs. someone needs to report it some how asap! i don't think anyone should try to work with a "breeder" that let's their dogs get to that condition!
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On the site it says there are no laws in this area to protect them and that they contacted the authorities that told them there's nothing that can be done. I've never dealt with anything like this so I don't know if it's true or not. I'm going to find out where these people are and what can be done. If anything I'll see if I can't locate these poor babies and call the authorities on them myself. No reply from them yet. Hopefully soon.

Do animal rights laws differ form state to state? Im not trying to sound dumb, I really just thought animal cruelty would be something that everystate would have laws against and I thought that SPCA was nationwide. Is it not? Can we not contact the SPCA about this?
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I din't read past the first post and donated, hopefully it is legit and it will be used to help these poor babies.
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Well, I called the number listed on the site and only got a voice mail. I left a messege but have not gotten a reply yet. I did get a reply to the e-mail I sent and all that they said in the e-mail is that they took those pics last night and they hope to get enough donations to rescue them. So I went to the ASPCA website and clicked on report animal cruetly and typed in Tennessee. The closest law inforcement for animals is in Chattanooga which is about 1hour and a half from here. I'm going to e-mail them right now and tell them all about it and see what they say.
I e-mailed this other group back and asked them if they were in Monroe county (which is where I'm at) since the p.o. box is in Monroe county.

One way or another I'm going to help rescue those pups. If I can't get any answers today I'm going down to the madisonville police department and asking them what can be done.
If any of you can think of anything that else that I could do let me know.
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This is the absolute worst thing I've seen!

BoozhersMama, thank you for doing this for these sweet babies. Please continue to keep us updated on what you find out. I'm in Huntsville, AL, about an hour and a half from Chattanooga. Please let me know if there is anything at all I can do. You can email me personally if you can think of anything.

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That is horrible and disgusting! What kind of human being would allow that to happen?
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Old 08-24-2006, 03:51 PM   #23
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I sent her an e-mail saying that we were more than willing to help but were concernedIn a message dated 8/24/2006 5:20:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Thanse35 writes:
The majority of people on the messege board questioned why there is no authorities willing to step in and take these animals.

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well I wonder where they think I got the pictures? My vet has already been notified and I already have an appt for 3 on Tuesday. What do they want? Me to tell them where it is? I can't do that. I am the ONLY one who has talked to this person. Her sisters also breed. What should I do, HOPE the authorities do something? And if they don't? Then what? I lose all hope of them getting saved..the Yorkies and the others. You and I well know in Monroe County they don't do crap about these things. You don't even have animal control or a shelter. The legitimacy of my organization? Um....I am incorporated with the state and have outstanding vet ref and my boarder will give me a wonderful ref as well. As well as the shelter I have pulled from for YEARS knows me well. I am NOT going to put these dogs lives in danger just to appease some mistrusting women. If what you are saying is REALLY true..they could call my vet and donate directly for their care. This is difficult dealing with this..there are other sisters who breed Maltese and Bichon. They want to release to me as well. Obviously the authorities won't do anything or else this wouldn't be going on. It is so simple minded for people to think the authorities would do something. This is happening in mills EVERYWHERE with nothing done. I can prove the legitimacy after I have all the dogs safely out. the only way to do so now would be to post the breeders name and address. Can't do it. If people are THAT worried that I am not legit, then I certainly do not want them to donate. Please don't give it another thought. But I can tell you, I will not let it be implied that I am not on the up and up. I will flat out prove otherwise once I have these babies SAFE.
You guys, I think she's just heartbroken about this as much as we are and she's just wanting to get them out any way that she can.
I wrote her back and told her that you guys are the most loving kind hearted people I've ever met and that you just wanted to be careful.
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I received a nice email from the rescue for my donation. I hope she can save these poor babies.
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This is the e-mail I just received:

Subj: Re: donations
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That explains it. You are new here. I was too..10 years ago. I had NEVER seen anything like it. There was no shelter, no animal control. We just recently got a shelter last year. But this county does not enforce animal cruelty laws. The shelter simply writes up a form that goes to the mayor's desk and sits there. They do NOTHING. You simply must trust me. If I thought that was the way to go, I would do it. The most that would happen is they may visit her and tell her to get them vet care. Then I can most assuredly promise you that they would die. She would know I did it and I'd never be able to help another one there or with her sisters. The 4 Maltese on my website I rescued from her sister.
Yes, I'm sure she most definitely will continue breeding. No doubt in my mind unforunately. But I can't stop her...I can only try to get these out of there. IMO breeding should not be allwed until the animal overpopulation is dealt with. Any any breeder should be inspected once a month. But we all know that won't happen. So all I can do is help the ones I'm made aware of. Please, feel free to write a check directly to my vet. I have an appt for 3 on Tuesday even though I haven't gotten any yet. I'm planning on going there Monday night. I will do my best not to pay her, but rather than let them die..I will try to save as many as I can. This area is AWFUL, these country people have no regard for their animals. It sickens me.
Thank you for your concern and for caring about the animals!
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I'm sorry but that's BULL that they need donations to rescue them. THE pictures are enough for the ASPCA to step in and take those poor dogs.

I had a neighbor who had a dog that was suffering horribly in the hot sun 2 years ago with 1/3 of his skin just raw (I don't know what was wrong) Chanel alerted me to him by barking and whining at MY fence.

He had gone and layed in the corner of his yard I THINK... To die - When I saw there was a dog in the yard - I climbed way up on my fence to take a look and was SHOCKED - So I got out my camera - took pictures & with my zoom lens. I also called the Houston ASPCA and emailed them too with the pictures along with the address and cross streets.

They came within less than 48 hours and saved that dog. They did NOT need a donation to save that dog !!! Ernie at the ASPCA (who is on Houston Cops) called me to tell me if it weren't for the pictures - they wouldn't have acted so fast but that was the clincher for them to move quickly.

These people need to notify the authorities and get all those dogs out of there. I HATE people who let dogs suffer like that...I just HATE THEM !

ps...THE PICTURE I posted is NOT as graphic as the other ones I took - (I don't want to upset anyone) - but this is that poor baby trying to look at me while I talked to him.... He never did get up and try to walk towards me. When I saw this poor guy I wanted to jump that fence and just SMACK his owner.
oh my word! that pic brought tears to my eyes, that poooooorrrrr dogggggg!!!!! oh my goshhhhhhhhhhhhhh = (
good for you for calling!!
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I'm sorry but that's BULL that they need donations to rescue them. THE pictures are enough for the ASPCA to step in and take those poor dogs.

I had a neighbor who had a dog that was suffering horribly in the hot sun 2 years ago with 1/3 of his skin just raw (I don't know what was wrong) Chanel alerted me to him by barking and whining at MY fence.

He had gone and layed in the corner of his yard I THINK... To die - When I saw there was a dog in the yard - I climbed way up on my fence to take a look and was SHOCKED - So I got out my camera - took pictures & with my zoom lens. I also called the Houston ASPCA and emailed them too with the pictures along with the address and cross streets.

They came within less than 48 hours and saved that dog. They did NOT need a donation to save that dog !!! Ernie at the ASPCA (who is on Houston Cops) called me to tell me if it weren't for the pictures - they wouldn't have acted so fast but that was the clincher for them to move quickly.

These people need to notify the authorities and get all those dogs out of there. I HATE people who let dogs suffer like that...I just HATE THEM !

ps...THE PICTURE I posted is NOT as graphic as the other ones I took - (I don't want to upset anyone) - but this is that poor baby trying to look at me while I talked to him.... He never did get up and try to walk towards me. When I saw this poor guy I wanted to jump that fence and just SMACK his owner.

POOR BABY!
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These yorkies are in the Knoxville/Chattanooga area. They are at a breeders, eaten up by the mange and who knows what else. They had to SNEAK into the breeders and snap these few pics of them. It's so sad I can't stand it. I e-mailed them because I live close to see if there's anything I can do in addition to making a donation. How can people do this?!

Here's the link. If they can't get enough donations they won't be able to rescue these babies. The full story and pics are here:
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UNBELIVEABLE!!!!! SOO SAD!
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Let me add that once a dog is IN rescue - then donations are ok to ask for if it's legit. But to have them physically removed from the premises - a simple phone call and pictures of the abuse will work for the authorities to make a trip to the place they reside. They will check out the conditions of the animals and TAKE them if they are being abused or neglected. If the neglect is minor the breeder would receive a citation - if it's major - they have the choice to surrender the dogs or take a chance of going to court.

That's what they DO.

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Hold on a second... I ran a rescue for three years, and yes there were times (not often) that a dog had to be "bought" out of hell. Now as far as them asking for donations to BUY the dogs, 1st needs to be determined if they have their 501-3(c) non profit status. I am in eastern TN.. I will do some investigtion on this, I should know someone who knows someone who can tell me something. In this area, for the shelter to remove dogs, they have to prove there is no food, water, shelter.. otherwise, they can stay, no matter how filthy. If the shelter DOES take them, they will likely be euthanized. If the rescue takes them, some of them will be able to be rehabilitated and vetted. The shelter taking a dog or dogs is NOT always a good thing. Especially considering the sickness in the shelters, non vaccinated dogs dont stand a chance. They will then be adoped (if not killed) to the first Moron with an adoption fee.. YES rescue needs to take care of this.. they are trained to deal with dogs like this, and the rehab they are going to need. I have personally worked several puppymill busts, and rehabed puppymill dogs, and it is NOT pretty. Kudos to them for being willing to take this on, they have more in them than I do anymore...I've had enough. Anyways, I will do some research on this rescue, and post my findings, but I am SURE they are not scamming, as I can count on one hand the number of toy breeders just in this area with dogs that look just like those. I PRAY they are shutting one of them down.

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I'm sorry but that's BULL that they need donations to rescue them. THE pictures are enough for the ASPCA to step in and take those poor dogs.

I had a neighbor who had a dog that was suffering horribly in the hot sun 2 years ago with 1/3 of his skin just raw (I don't know what was wrong) Chanel alerted me to him by barking and whining at MY fence.

He had gone and layed in the corner of his yard I THINK... To die - When I saw there was a dog in the yard - I climbed way up on my fence to take a look and was SHOCKED - So I got out my camera - took pictures & with my zoom lens. I also called the Houston ASPCA and emailed them too with the pictures along with the address and cross streets.

They came within less than 48 hours and saved that dog. They did NOT need a donation to save that dog !!! Ernie at the ASPCA (who is on Houston Cops) called me to tell me if it weren't for the pictures - they wouldn't have acted so fast but that was the clincher for them to move quickly.

These people need to notify the authorities and get all those dogs out of there. I HATE people who let dogs suffer like that...I just HATE THEM !

ps...THE PICTURE I posted is NOT as graphic as the other ones I took - (I don't want to upset anyone) - but this is that poor baby trying to look at me while I talked to him.... He never did get up and try to walk towards me. When I saw this poor guy I wanted to jump that fence and just SMACK his owner.
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