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05-19-2006, 05:12 PM | #16 | |
~GirlieGirls~ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Missouri
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I did NOT crate train, but did use a pen just as you are. Whenever I took them out of the pen I would walk them to the door, set them down and put their paw on the bell to make it ring. Then open the door and let them out. Lexi and Tori were both scared of the bell the first few times but caught on quickly. Candi was never scared of it and it seems to be a game to her, but everytime she rings it I open the door.
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05-19-2006, 10:43 PM | #17 |
YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Zealand
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| First of all,you are doing great! Persevere with the outside training. I have just got some Poochie Bells-I will let you know how that goes as an outside signal. You do use a puppy pen at times.Why don't you use that to go out for the evening with your husband? If the pups have been walked. toileted and and fed,then they will sleep/play/chew toys for a few hours by themselves! They will be fine! You don't have to be there 24/7. Otherwise, give them some chew toys for 1/2 hr of peace. Walk for an hour--they will then be tired! Toilet training takes ages for these little ones--they will get there! Will they play in the yard bythemselves for even 15 mins? My 6 month old will play with my younger cat for a while,explore and chew. I am in the kitchen doing chores with 2 sets of sliding doors open so I can see what they are doing,but am not actively involved. Get the pups used to more independent time now they are older. Good luck and it will get easier! Having 2 must be like having twin children--until they get older!
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05-20-2006, 04:29 AM | #18 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois
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| Buy a crate! It will change your life!
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05-20-2006, 06:27 PM | #19 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEWPORT,AR
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| Hi, we have a doggy door for our pups so they can go outside when they need to go potty.This has helped me a lot with their training.Cathy and Yoshi |
05-20-2006, 08:34 PM | #20 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago Suburbs
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| Try bells, they do work. But only after they begin to know ahead of time that they need to go. Loki continued to have "oops I didn't make it" once a week or so until he was 10 months - 1 year or so. When he was about 1 year we put up the bells and we had no problems from then on. It's possible they are simply not big/old enough to control their bladders and know when they need to go out. I think I am misunderstanding you. You do not leave the house when they are in their pens? I know you said you do not want to crate train, but the whole point of crate training is that they won't potty in their crates (unless forced to hold it to long) therefore you don't have to watch them constantly. At first we left Loki unsupervised for 30 mins max. Then it was an hour (grocery store trip or whatever) then 2 or 3. For months he could not go more than 3 hours, but that was long enough to do whatever we needed to do. I still do not leave him more than 4 hours, just because. Also, don't they sleep a lot? Loki slept a lot at that age (still does) and so we'd get things done when he'd sleep. He tends to sleep all day and then be active in the evenings, which is when he gets the most attention (he's efficient that way). So, I don't worry about putting him in his crate for a little while because he'd just be sleeping anyway. All they do in the crate is sleep. Don't the girls sleep in their pens?? Now, if you are asking how to get things done without constantly watching them - perhaps tether them to you? Tie a leash around your belt loop and watch them that way? They are still going to have accidents. They will be too interested in a toy to realize they need to go and they will squat right in front of you and pee. They are just like toddlers. But again, I'm confused. If they have pee-pads, why does any of this matter - won't they use the pee pads? We never used pads, so I don't know. Do you encourage one over the other. Are the pups confused? Do you want to eliminate the pads? Why do you have to watch them every second if they are in their pens? Are they sleeping through the night? I set an alarm and took Loki out at 2am forever. I also took him out during the night if he woke up (which would wake me up). Now I trust him to wake me up (he sniffs in my ear, goofball) or run downstairs and ring his bell. Finally - welcome to puppyhood. Yorkie puppies are hard work. If you want a time frame for when it gets better, I'd say that by 18 months their bladders will be in good shape for sure. By 2 years they are fully developed. Loki is 1 1/2 and he's been fully housetrained for months. But, we never used the pads. I can't say how that changes things.
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05-21-2006, 02:01 PM | #21 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minnesota
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| Re: 50 hrs x 2 per wk - to Erin & Loki Dear Erin & Loki, Thank you for your thorough reply. I guess what I am learning through reading all of these posts is that I am putting more of the stress on myself than I need too. You are correct in many of the the things you say. I can see where you might misunderstand some of which I have written. I haven't had the trust or should I say guts to leave them in the pen for an hour and actually leave the house. I usually will do some of my work while they are in the pen. The most I leave them in the pen is about an hour at a time. And then of course when they are outside running like the wind, I am watching them for when they have to poop so they don't eat it. Thus I'm not just leaving them out without my supervision. Well, today, my hubby had them out for over an hour and he would check on them every once in a while and waited till they came to the door to be let in. Ummmm. My husband is ahead of me there. If they are in the pen too long and need to go - I know one of them uses the pee pads well. So, what am I worried about? You got me! When they play downstairs on the carpeted area they do have accidents. They don't always go right to do the door to be let out, etc. So what do I do??? I follow them around the rec area to make sure they don't have an accident. Whew! No wonder I'm pooped. I just haven't had that trust level yet.... They are young. They are 5-1/2 months old and I am awaiting the day when they can roam around the whole house without the worry of tons of accidents all the time. This is my big wish. The bell options sounds like a good one and others have mentioned it too. If we don't get "clued-in" better as to when they want to go out to eliminate &/or play we will try the bell method. In the meantime, it seems I have leashed myself to the house! The girls should be able to be in the pen for an hour while I go for a walk, etc. I've just been too nervous about leaving them. But...this coming week...I'm going to try it. They get their walks (2x a day) and I will start going for a walk on my own too while they are in the pen with the pee pads and a nice kennel to sleep in and toys to play with. Thank you so much - everybody for your words of wisdom, common sense, experiences, etc.. I have to give it a little more time, trust a little more, worry a lot less, feel a little more freedom! Thanks and blessings and YEAH YORKIES!
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