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eensor · 04-10-2005, 07:33 AM

Hi! I haven't heard back from Admin yet, but I think those of us who want to participate can feel fairly safe about our donations not being scammed if we pay the vets directly. Also, if by some slim chance we got scammed, we are more blessed for giving and the scammer is worse of for scamming.

I don't think this will happen with the safety nets we are going to put in place.

Ringo · 04-10-2005, 08:05 AM

Would the easiest way to contribute would be to a Paypal account? Just let me know when you set this up and if you use the Paypal idea I can put funds in it immediately. Thanks

jpb1971 · 04-10-2005, 08:23 AM

Would it be possible to get a document from the vet scanned into one of the forums for us to see the diagnoses of the yorkie. The document would have all the vets information and the yorkies information. This way you could check for sure if it is true or not. If it is legitimate, instead of sending the money to the person, we could send the money to the vet directly.

What do you think?

eensor · 04-10-2005, 08:30 AM

Yes, we've already decided to send the payment to the vet directly. As for scanning the documents I don't know. I'm hoping to have an online application on YT with vets contact info and contact info for three references of the applicant.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 04-10-2005, 08:56 AM

The Paypal idea sounds clean. How are we checking for legitimate financial need? The personal references are a good idea too, but I wouldn't want the $ to go to someone who could afford to pay for it themselves. We can include authorizations for verification forms for the applicant to check with their banks and their employer's as well. It sounds complicated, but it's really not. We could ask for their most recent tax return and three months bank statements. That's really easy. Of course, it would all be very confidential and only the disbursement committee would have access to those documents in order to respect and pritect their privacy.

Cheryl Field · 04-10-2005, 09:00 AM

I think this is a great idea and I will gladly donate.

Yorkie_GirL · 04-10-2005, 09:03 AM

I too would donate, because i know how hard it is, these vet bills can be. i'm a struggling college student/lvn ..

money is tight when you don't work a lot and have tons of bills to pay.. so i would more than be willing to donate if my buget allows.

admin · 04-10-2005, 11:36 AM

This is a great idea, however, the problem with the Internet is anybody can lie. We're not saying our members here lie or anything, but it's VERY difficult to determine which Yorkie is "worthy" of the donation, if the Yorkie is even sick, or if there's a "shady" vet involved that can verify false stories. It may get to a point of who has the best "sob" story.

We're sure we can help a few people, but it just takes one bad apple to ruin it for us, and if we're talking hundreds or perhaps THOUSANDS of dollars here, it's just not worth it in the event we get scammed as a group. If anyone wants to start their own "Yorkie Medical Fund" for anyone, that's fine but we will now allow any links to it, and we don't feel right hosting a "Yorkie Medical Fund" ourselves here at YorkieTalk. If you want to personally donate money to any member, that is your right and you can do as you please. Also, there are Yorkie Rescue Groups or other worthy Yorkie-related charities you may donate to.

So, to sum it all up, a Yorkie Medical Fund is a great idea, we just don't think a YorkieTalk-sponsored one will work. Any comments, positive or negative are appreciated. Thank you.

PinkMartini · 04-10-2005, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin

We're not saying our members here lie or anything, but it's VERY difficult to determine which Yorkie is "worthy" of the donation, if the Yorkie is even sick, or if there's a "shady" vet involved that can verify false stories.

That's EXACTLY what I meant.

Thanks for letting us know Admin

Chelsey · 04-10-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkMartini

That's EXACTLY what I meant.

Thanks for letting us know Admin

Exactly my thought too, BUT i have to say that the ppl that started this thread with caring/loving thoughts towards yorkies in need have their hearts in the right place and my compliments to them, i can appreciate ppl like that really, i would donate for sure if i knew the bucks were going to save an animal, but i would hate to be taken advantage of, i would recomend a good health insurence for ur pet, its not expensive and worth it in the long run... u just have to look around and find the right one for u!

chachi · 04-10-2005, 01:28 PM

After Aimme telling about the one incident that has already happened I think this is probably for the best. Plus trying to figure out whose dog has the most need could be a real challenge. It was a great idea though. Definitely worth debating over as we did.

aimee · 04-10-2005, 01:35 PM

After thinking about this for awhile, I believe ALL of our hearts are in the right place, but admin is absolutely right and I agree and understand this decision.

There are some great organizations for us to donate to which are already established, and the advice and friendship we give to those owners with problems do not count for nothing.

jpb1971 · 04-10-2005, 02:04 PM

Well, then instead of organizing a Yorkie Medical Fund, maybe we can help the rescue center for yorkies. It could be a once a year thing where we donate to one shelter a year...or it can be another time frame...instead of a year it can be months. Everyone can donate money into an account...a time frame would be given...then that money can be donated to a rescue center. So, instead of small donations over a period of time, it can be one big donation, and it can be a yearly or monthly thing.

Not sure if this will work, but it's an idea.

What ever we decide to do...I will be more than happy to donate.

iheartyorkies · 04-10-2005, 02:54 PM

I totally agree that the funds should go to a Yorkie Rescue organization. Rather than any of us having to deal with the hastles of money handling I suggest that we contact the rescue and find out how to donate in the name of YorkieTalk. That way we send the money straight to them. A certain day, week, or month could be designated XX Rescue Day (whichever) and we would post a link on this site to theirs and they, in turn, could provide us with a running total of our donations. It would be very exciting to watch our total go up as more and more get involved. I would definately donate if it went straight to a legitimate rescue organization. Just a thought...

PinkMartini · 04-10-2005, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartyorkies

I would definately donate if it went straight to a legitimate rescue organization.

Me too

04-10-2005, 11:36 AM	#53
admin *Administrator* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,246 Blog Entries: 3	This is a great idea, however, the problem with the Internet is anybody can lie. We're not saying our members here lie or anything, but it's VERY difficult to determine which Yorkie is "worthy" of the donation, if the Yorkie is even sick, or if there's a "shady" vet involved that can verify false stories. It may get to a point of who has the best "sob" story. We're sure we can help a few people, but it just takes one bad apple to ruin it for us, and if we're talking hundreds or perhaps THOUSANDS of dollars here, it's just not worth it in the event we get scammed as a group. If anyone wants to start their own "Yorkie Medical Fund" for anyone, that's fine but we will now allow any links to it, and we don't feel right hosting a "Yorkie Medical Fund" ourselves here at YorkieTalk. If you want to personally donate money to any member, that is your right and you can do as you please. Also, there are Yorkie Rescue Groups or other worthy Yorkie-related charities you may donate to. So, to sum it all up, a Yorkie Medical Fund is a great idea, we just don't think a YorkieTalk-sponsored one will work. Any comments, positive or negative are appreciated. Thank you. Last edited by admin; 06-27-2005 at 11:36 AM.

04-10-2005, 01:28 PM	#56
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	After Aimme telling about the one incident that has already happened I think this is probably for the best. Plus trying to figure out whose dog has the most need could be a real challenge. It was a great idea though. Definitely worth debating over as we did. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

04-10-2005, 01:35 PM	#57
aimee The Royal Mommy Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,010	After thinking about this for awhile, I believe ALL of our hearts are in the right place, but admin is absolutely right and I agree and understand this decision. There are some great organizations for us to donate to which are already established, and the advice and friendship we give to those owners with problems do not count for nothing. __________________ (`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´) «´¨ `·.¸¸.Aimée, Sandy, and Tia.¸¸.·´¨`» (¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)

04-10-2005, 02:54 PM	#59
iheartyorkies Boppin' Bo! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,719	I totally agree that the funds should go to a Yorkie Rescue organization. Rather than any of us having to deal with the hastles of money handling I suggest that we contact the rescue and find out how to donate in the name of YorkieTalk. That way we send the money straight to them. A certain day, week, or month could be designated XX Rescue Day (whichever) and we would post a link on this site to theirs and they, in turn, could provide us with a running total of our donations. It would be very exciting to watch our total go up as more and more get involved. I would definately donate if it went straight to a legitimate rescue organization. Just a thought... __________________ ~~~ i yorkies ~~~ Cynthia Turbo and Suri!

04-10-2005, 07:33 AM	#46
eensor YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois Posts: 2,535	Hi! I haven't heard back from Admin yet, but I think those of us who want to participate can feel fairly safe about our donations not being scammed if we pay the vets directly. Also, if by some slim chance we got scammed, we are more blessed for giving and the scammer is worse of for scamming. I don't think this will happen with the safety nets we are going to put in place.

04-10-2005, 08:05 AM	#47
Ringo Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 193	Would the easiest way to contribute would be to a Paypal account? Just let me know when you set this up and if you use the Paypal idea I can put funds in it immediately. Thanks

04-10-2005, 08:23 AM	#48
jpb1971 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 214	Would it be possible to get a document from the vet scanned into one of the forums for us to see the diagnoses of the yorkie. The document would have all the vets information and the yorkies information. This way you could check for sure if it is true or not. If it is legitimate, instead of sending the money to the person, we could send the money to the vet directly. What do you think?

04-10-2005, 08:30 AM	#49
eensor YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois Posts: 2,535	Yes, we've already decided to send the payment to the vet directly. As for scanning the documents I don't know. I'm hoping to have an online application on YT with vets contact info and contact info for three references of the applicant.

04-10-2005, 08:56 AM	#50
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	The Paypal idea sounds clean. How are we checking for legitimate financial need? The personal references are a good idea too, but I wouldn't want the $ to go to someone who could afford to pay for it themselves. We can include authorizations for verification forms for the applicant to check with their banks and their employer's as well. It sounds complicated, but it's really not. We could ask for their most recent tax return and three months bank statements. That's really easy. Of course, it would all be very confidential and only the disbursement committee would have access to those documents in order to respect and pritect their privacy.

04-10-2005, 09:00 AM	#51
Cheryl Field Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 166	I think this is a great idea and I will gladly donate.

04-10-2005, 09:03 AM	#52
Yorkie_GirL Oreo,Ginger&Cloey Owned Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: none of your business Posts: 1,270	I too would donate, because i know how hard it is, these vet bills can be. i'm a struggling college student/lvn .. money is tight when you don't work a lot and have tons of bills to pay.. so i would more than be willing to donate if my buget allows.

04-10-2005, 02:04 PM	#58
jpb1971 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 214	Well, then instead of organizing a Yorkie Medical Fund, maybe we can help the rescue center for yorkies. It could be a once a year thing where we donate to one shelter a year...or it can be another time frame...instead of a year it can be months. Everyone can donate money into an account...a time frame would be given...then that money can be donated to a rescue center. So, instead of small donations over a period of time, it can be one big donation, and it can be a yearly or monthly thing. Not sure if this will work, but it's an idea. What ever we decide to do...I will be more than happy to donate.