Please Do Not Use Electric Fences and Shock Collars

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

It's plugged in at all times but no, the current does not constantly run through it.

Hmmm...this is much like the audio capacitor in my car...it's got a full charge all the time, but the charge is only used when needed...or a car battery...or a lamp that stays plugged in...
Not that it has ANYTHING to do with a fence, but it's the same concept. Well, it makes sense in my head anyways...

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Hmmm...this is much like the audio capacitor in my car...it's got a full charge all the time, but the charge is only used when needed...or a car battery...or a lamp that stays plugged in...
Not that it has ANYTHING to do with a fence, but it's the same concept. Well, it makes sense in my head anyways...

Makes sense to me - like Motion Detectors or Tape Recorders that turn on with sound ....

I think these fences sound wonderful

[magnolia]

Originally Posted by red98vett

they are just VERY nosy and they do chase birds and squirrels.

I don't EVEN have to get a mental picture of that - Gabby is exactly the same way!!! All I have to do is mention squirrel and she's off and running! Gage on the other hand, has bigger "game" in mind - DEER!!! We learned the hard way that the gate must be closed at all times (our backyard is fenced but we always kept the gate open as that was our way in to the garage). Gage got out, ran into the woods chasing a deer - not a scared bone in his little 5 pound body..LOL! He thought he was just as big as that 4-point - until that 4-point "hoofed" him. Leason learned, gate is closed at all times once we get home for the day. But, if not for the gate, we would be installing some type of fencing to keep him in (and Gabby too). We live out in the country with all kinds a critters, I can't risk the health of my babies (or the loss of them) to the wildlife in our area so by any means necessary, they will be confined - they are just too precious to us!

Suzi

[YorkieRini]

Originally Posted by red98vett

Makes sense to me - like Motion Detectors or Tape Recorders that turn on with sound ....

I think these fences sound wonderful

Like the 'Clapper'.."Clap on..".."Clap off.."

[cribal]

IMO... Electric fences are great. My mom used it for our first dog (min. dauchsund). But our is different from the underground our above ground. Her's is a box that you sit somewhere in the middle of your house. It can be in a cabinet or pantry or anywhere. This box sets a perimerter around your house. You can do it as small or as little as you want. You jsut have to hold the colloar out when you walk in the yard to see how far you want your pup to go. It also has a setting from 1lb. to 150lb. dog. so the jolt that your get is according to the size of the dog. I put it on my wrist and went over the line and it's like a bee sting. Also it gives a louder and the louder beep when you start getting to close so you know your about to get shocked. Hunter (our doxi) only go hit maybe once or twice and never again.

Also we put up flags at first so he knew his boundries

CRystal

[txshopper73]

I will say this once again!!!! Rebel tested the wire twice MAX when we first put it up 5 months ago and that was on the first day. He has NOT tested it since. He's a lot smarter than that. I think some people are trying to make out like he's stupid or something and that he bounces up and down on it like it's a trampoline. Give me a break.

It is the SMALLEST box that they make and the wire is not the same that is used for cattle. It's a thinner wire. I have walked into it. My children walked into it. NO ONE FRIED!!!!!!!!

My dogs did not turn aggressive 5 months ago when we first put the wire up. Rebel turned aggressive this past Friday AFTER he got out of our yard and then got out of the neighbor's yard.

BUT ONCE AGAIN...I am through with this thread and will attempt to leave it alone.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

[B]It is the SMALLEST box that they make and the wire is not the same that is used for cattle. It's a thinner wire. I have walked into it. My children walked into it. NO ONE FRIED!!!!!!!!

My dogs did not turn aggressive 5 months ago when we first put the wire up. Rebel turned aggressive this past Friday AFTER he got out of our yard and then got out of the neighbor's yard.

BUT ONCE AGAIN...I am through with this thread and will attempt to leave it alone.

Kimberley~I think most people are in agreement with you here. It's too bad the problem you actually needed help with was lost in all the crap! Although, maybe this could attribute to the lovely volume in your hair?

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Kimberley~I think most people are in agreement with you here. It's too bad the problem you actually needed help with was lost in all the crap! Although, maybe this could attribute to the lovely volume in your hair?

I totally agree...I know this thread was started for a different reason than what it became ....and I don't see anyone who actually USES them thinking they are cruel at all - just the opposite

I just became a future customer if I ever have the need because they sound really great.

How can anyone fault something that could possibly save our yorkies from running off or worse ?

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Although, maybe this could attribute to the lovely volume in your hair?

Oh no...the secret is the RAVE!!!!

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

I will say this once again!!!! Rebel tested the wire twice MAX when we first put it up 5 months ago and that was on the first day. He has NOT tested it since. He's a lot smarter than that. I think some people are trying to make out like he's stupid or something and that he bounces up and down on it like it's a trampoline. Give me a break.

LOLOLOL!! Hahahaha! I'm sorry I just had to laugh because I could just picture cute little Rebel jumping up and down on the wire like it's a trampoline and zapping his little booty - LOLOL!

Ok, now that I got my laugh on, I feel better. Kimberely, you continue to do what is best for you, the esacpe artist Rebel and your family. Don't let anyone try to make you feel guilty about it -- in all honesty, it's NO one elses business. Keep doing what you're doing because you're a great Yorkie mom.

[Sherry Lynn]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

Kimberely, you continue to do what is best for you, the esacpe artist Rebel and your family. Don't let anyone try to make you feel guilty about it -- in all honesty, it's NO one elses business. Keep doing what you're doing because you're a great Yorkie mom.

Ditto!! If I ever come back as a dog (or kid for that matter!) I would be honored to have you for a mom!! And I would respect the boundries you set for me!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

LOLOLOL!! Hahahaha! I'm sorry I just had to laugh because I could just picture cute little Rebel jumping up and down on the wire like it's a trampoline and zapping his little booty - LOLOL!

Ok, now that I got my laugh on, I feel better. Kimberely, you continue to do what is best for you, the esacpe artist Rebel and your family. Don't let anyone try to make you feel guilty about it -- in all honesty, it's NO one elses business. Keep doing what you're doing because you're a great Yorkie mom.

I totally agree with this Kimberley - and thanks for the laugh Jen Now I have the image of Rebel ...the problem is he's LIKING it

[diva pup]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Wow, I bet a wire meant for livestock would hurt like crap to a 5 year old! Ouch! But actually, you can by the hotwires for smaller dogs--the voltage can be adjusted. We found this out years ago when we had a baby goat that didn't want to stay put and had to have one installed. There is some equation about the setting vs the pounds, but I honestly don't remember...like I said, it was years ago. (It's like, X volts per pound up to Y pounds, then 2xX volts per pound up to Y pounds...blah blah blah...I don't remember.)
Of course, we had to get a higher voltage for a goat, but we looked into it for the pekes we had at the time that took great pleasure in taking off after the cows next door when they saw them. It kept the goats in place nicely...you know how goats will (try to) eat anything...well, that doesn't stop w/ fences...nasty little lesson for them I must say...

Well I have to say you learn something new every day I did not know that you can buy that wire for smaller animals. I live in a rural area and perhaps they only sell it for cattle and horses etc here. As a city girl there are certainly things I haven't learned yet.
I have a little goat and he would cry like a baby if he ever got shocked LOL! He is a big sissy.
I still don't think I would use it on my 2 but I feel bad for my foals if they get shocked so maybe it is me that is the big sissy

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I totally agree with this Kimberley - and thanks for the laugh Jen Now I have the image of Rebel ...the problem is he's LIKING it

LOL! I think I'd like it too!

[Carters Mom]

Don't want this to get buried due to the abundance of replies on this thread.

Originally Posted by Carters Mom

Socal --

Just curious. I know you have several yorkies currently. Have you ever lost a dog to tragedy?