What dog food and why?

[kjc]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

If they are dong well on what they are on then I wouldn’t change.

...unless you have other concerns...

[sandy simpson]

I so appreciate all your help about dog food. My yorkies dont have any problems. Just 8yrs. I am concerned about fat. They are at a good weight and active. 16% should be ok. For now. I just haven't found d a senior food I like. I will keep them on lifes abundance unless I find one I like. Or if a problem arises.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by kjc

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You can insist of reading labels. Go right ahead.

I don't do that. I have explained it and not going to bother again.

I will continue to feed my dogs the foods recommended by experts in animal nutrition....

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

You can’t just look at the ingredients. That is what we are trying to say. It’s just not that simple.

Oh, she "can". We just "do n't" and "won't".

Note that there were no comments on the nutritionist whose CV I posted. Once people stop believing in science, there is not much sense trying to explain.

[sandy simpson]

I read labels on the foods I eat. I read the reviews and ratings from various reputable dog food providers.
We all want to choose healthy dog food . I appreciate all the help on this forum seeking the best for our precious pets.

[powerency]

Sorry for bumping into an old conversation. While I haven't personally owned a Yorkie, I've heard great things about some brands. However, it's always a good idea to consult with your vet to determine the best food for your pup's specific needs. As for ones to avoid, it's generally recommended to steer clear of dog foods with artificial additives or fillers. And I’d also like to share that I recently stumbled upon a fantastic resource https://cutepetcare.com/my-dog-sudde...o-sleep-alone/ that I find super useful for animal care tips and recommendations. I often refer to it when caring for my own pets, and it might have some valuable insights for you too!

[jazzybee445]

Originally Posted by kjc

I am not judging the people who feed this brand to their dogs, I am judging the company that produces it. Sorry if I offended anyone as that was not my intent. I like rice, my dogs, not so much. Rice flavored with bacon, definitely a yes, for all of us. I thought it was made with higher quality ingredients, it really caught me off guard that it is not. Just thought RC was producing foods using the highest quality ingredients, granted they use smart science to maintain high levels of nutrition,(the list of additives is twice that of actual food) or to appear that way. Great if some or many dogs do well on it, vet once said eating something is better for the dog than eating nothing.

Chicken by-product meal is what is left of a whole chicken after the muscle (meat) is removed, then the carcass is ground to a powder. It is common in many pet foods, cheaper to use than actual meat.

The science and vet involvement is necessary to make it legal, meeting the FDA mins and Max’s required for pet food, could be better than most foods available. Didn’t care to investigate further. Label says ‘natural flavors’, science can make anything taste good.

I recently purchased a product that I could put on cardboard to feed my dogs and it would pass or even surpass FDA requirements for dog food.

Just thought it interesting as I like to know what is in the food I feed my pups and what it’s purpose is. Seems to me they are out to make money, not that anything in their food is actually harmful.

Subject: RC Adult Yorkie food ingredients (Irrelevant as the OP asked about feeding a puppy)

Googled corn gluten meal:
What is the difference between cornmeal and corn gluten meal?
Corn meal and corn gluten meal (CGM) originate from whole kernels of corn, but they're used for very different purposes. The corn meal you use as a coating for food is ground up corn, while corn gluten meal is a byproduct of this process. ... Look for horticultural cornmeal from Home Depot, for instance.Nov 6, 2019


Feeding corn gluten meal can cause your dog or cat to develop severe allergies to corn over an extended amount of time. ... It is much lower in some of the ten essential amino acids dogs need to sustain life than is meat or egg-based protein. Corn gluten meal can raise the protein reported on a food label.

From The Dog food Advisor:

The Two Most Common Problems
with Gluten Ingredients

In any case, here are the two most important things to know about gluten ingredients…

1. Glutens are less nutritionally complete than meat based proteins. They’re low in some of the ten essential amino acids dogs need to sustain life

2. Glutens can raise the protein reported on a food label. So, manufacturers frequently add them to a recipe to make a product look better than it really is

The Bottom Line

Whenever you discover gluten on a dog food ingredients list, you should always question the true meat content of the product.

Years later and Im coming across everything you have shared and I wanted to say thank you! I too was appalled when I saw the ingredients of RC and share your sentiments on it. there is no reason why the first ingredient of a dog food is a grain, something their bodies are not biologically built to digest. its also quite sad to see so many people blindly follow a brand just because they slapped a picture of a yorkie on their bag. There are so many "tested by scientist and doctors and vets" things in this world that have still ended up being bad for health. I just appreciate that despite so much backlash you still shared your knowledge

[matese]

Thank you for your input.

[ladyjane]

reposting below

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jazzybee445

Years later and Im coming across everything you have shared and I wanted to say thank you! I too was appalled when I saw the ingredients of RC and share your sentiments on it. there is no reason why the first ingredient of a dog food is a grain, something their bodies are not biologically built to digest. its also quite sad to see so many people blindly follow a brand just because they slapped a picture of a yorkie on their bag. There are so many "tested by scientist and doctors and vets" things in this world that have still ended up being bad for health. I just appreciate that despite so much backlash you still shared your knowledge

When people respectfully disagree, that is not backlash.

I would urge you to read ALL of what has been posted here on this thread. I feed my pups RC and they are fine and healthy. I am not a vet nor a vet nutritionist.....that is why I consult with them. They are qualified to state facts about animal nutrition. Lay people on the internet simply are not.

I am sad to see so many people these days not trusting science, but it isn't something I can fix.

I just continue on and give people the info that I trust just like others here do. It is up to the people reading it to decide what is right/wrong for their pups.

[jazzybee445]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

When people respectfully disagree, that is not backlash.

I would urge you to read ALL of what has been posted here on this thread. I feed my pups RC and they are fine and healthy. I am not a vet nor a vet nutritionist.....that is why I consult with them. They are qualified to state facts about animal nutrition. Lay people on the internet simply are not.

I am sad to see so many people these days not trusting science, but it isn't something I can fix.

I just continue on and give people the info that I trust just like others here do. It is up to the people reading it to decide what is right/wrong for their pups.

Science is ever evolving. Science once said that it was perfectly safe and okay to smoke cigarettes. it was "physician approved" it wasn't until there was a mass increase in lung cancer that new science came out and linked smoking to lung cancer. There are several examples just like that ,where something that was previously deemed safe and healthy and backed by science, turned around with new science showing the opposite. From reading this thread, it seemed as if everyone was ganging up on that person for having a differing opinion . I felt what they shared was not unreasonable and was extremely helpful. Sometimes we must use our own discernment as well as our own observation when making important decisions about our loved ones health and diet. Science is not the end all be all and because of its ever evolving nature it should also not be held as always being the definitive answer. We live in a world of infinite possibilities. if you throw enough money at something and look at something hard enough, science can prove most anything.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jazzybee445

Science is ever evolving. Science once said that it was perfectly safe and okay to smoke cigarettes. it was "physician approved" it wasn't until there was a mass increase in lung cancer that new science came out and linked smoking to lung cancer. There are several examples just like that ,where something that was previously deemed safe and healthy and backed by science, turned around with new science showing the opposite. From reading this thread, it seemed as if everyone was ganging up on that person for having a differing opinion . I felt what they shared was not unreasonable and was extremely helpful. Sometimes we must use our own discernment as well as our own observation when making important decisions about our loved ones health and diet. Science is not the end all be all and because of its ever evolving nature it should also not be held as always being the definitive answer. We live in a world of infinite possibilities. if you throw enough money at something and look at something hard enough, science can prove most anything.

Yes, of course, science is ever evolving. That does NOT mean it is safe to ignore it just because of what someone said/believed based on nothing but what they "think".

Again, you can choose to believe what you will. I am not here to convince anyone. I am simply NOT going to rubber stamp things that are NOT based on current research and simply NOT going to listen to armchair veterinary nutritionists.

People read these forums and I am one who feels strongly that I should not ignore what I think is not valid. I am not here to hog tie anyone. I simply share what I believe is valid based on that word SCIENCE. You just recenly posted something about ingredients in RC being appalling. I have NO idea where you got that information but as of THIS DATE there is no research I know of that would agree with you.

Sadly, infinite possibilities were responsible for many dogs dying from the "grain free fad". At the time this was pushed, many of us here on YT were concerned because there was NO science behind it. All that was out there was dog food companies pushing foods that were NOT backed by science or responsible veterinary nutrition. Now they know what was wrong with those foods............it was not just a simple thing.

OK...enough said.

I will continue to feed my very healthy and very loved pups Royal Canin foods.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jazzybee445

Years later and Im coming across everything you have shared and I wanted to say thank you! I too was appalled when I saw the ingredients of RC and share your sentiments on it. there is no reason why the first ingredient of a dog food is a grain, something their bodies are not biologically built to digest. its also quite sad to see so many people blindly follow a brand just because they slapped a picture of a yorkie on their bag. There are so many "tested by scientist and doctors and vets" things in this world that have still ended up being bad for health. I just appreciate that despite so much backlash you still shared your knowledge

After all the reading you said you did on this thread, I cannot help but wonder who you think buys dog food based on a photo on the bag. Surely not those of us who believe in listening to experts. I have no clue how I missed that sentence but have to say it's hilarious.

[ladyjane]

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[ladyjane]

I have three pups on this food and it has saved them. Two of them had recurrent pancreatitis and this food has been wonderful for them, keeping them healthy and out of the hospital.



That dog on the bag must be a new yorkie mix.