Poor dogs...

[FlyingNimbus]

Hey guys, long time no see.

Well I am officially ashamed to be related to this kid.... Mmm maybe that's a bit harsh but what he's been doing has been seriously making me angry.


So my cousin who is 12 years old has been staying over with us of course with my aunt, for the past 2 weeks, he leaves in a few days now... But he's seriously agitating the (volatile) mixture.

He's obsessed with trains(which is fine, it's just what he does with them) and the little jerk is purposely chasing the dogs with them, stomping on the floors near them, tail pulling, startling them on purpose, etc... I've been keeping my dog in my room (which has little space now) and only take her out to do her business and an hour at most of outside supervised with the kid not able to go out.

The other day I caught him throwing trains near the dogs to startle them. The dog he harasses the most is my mom's dog which is a 20 something pound cocker spaniel poodle mix...

I've been consistently telling him to not do things and to stop and I sit down and explain things to him but the little imbecile just keeps at it. I even have him repeat back what I say to him a few times to make sure he actually heard me and was paying attention.... Thing is, he does these things when we're not around. Like the moment I go to the bathroom and I am there for even a few minutes I can already hear the noise of the dogs frantic barking, etc.

Honestly I kind of deep down I kind of want the dogs to bite the crap out of him so he understands what he's doing is bad. I suppose some of you may not like me for admitting to this- but I just feel frustrated.

I remove the dogs from his prescence most of the times because of this but the dogs dont want to be cooped up in a room, which is very much explainable. I want to be able to give them free roam of the house.

My mom also notices him when he does it and she takes the dog away, and when he apologizes later on she lets him play with her again but he repeats. I may come off as paranoid but I can clearly tell he has no actual remorse over it.

Why? Because when I was his age, and I did something bad I had the same stupid little grin he's giving. The only difference is, that I never teased, tormented or abused animals like that. I may have accidentally startled some accidentally but never on purpose unless they were doing something self-endangering...

Now for those of you who may think he's not old enough to know at the very least that what he is doing is bad, mean and just downright evil-- he's smarter than he lets on, you were 12 once and just think back to those times. Did you purposely like to bother animals?

I have been speaking to him constantly about it, he does it often enough a day that I can tell that he just didnt forget.

He's not even my kid, or my problem but when he's doing things to bother or hurt our animals that's when I stepped in. This same kid used to have a pet turtle once(I dont even understand why they bought him one as he was 6) and the little arseling killed the turtle within the day because he kept using it as a car.

I just don't understand why would anyone do this, or if he's just a psychopath and we don't even know it. I mean the turtle thing I get it- he was 5-6 and that was more on his parents fault, but he's not a baby/toddler/super young kid anymore.

I've met plenty of other kids who had better common sense than he does and weren't actually cruel.

I can't even give him a slap on the wrist(Figurative speech-- meaning I cant ground him) as he's not my kid but I have been feeling like disconnecting the internet, tv, etc for him for the time he spends here until he learns to behave.


All in all, I just wish he had more respect and care for other living beings. Being such a spoiled pampered little arseling isn't healthy for him or his parents.

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

Hey guys, long time no see.

Well I am officially ashamed to be related to this kid.... Mmm maybe that's a bit harsh but what he's been doing has been seriously making me angry.


So my cousin who is 12 years old has been staying over with us of course with my aunt, for the past 2 weeks, he leaves in a few days now... But he's seriously agitating the (volatile) mixture.

He's obsessed with trains(which is fine, it's just what he does with them) and the little jerk is purposely chasing the dogs with them, stomping on the floors near them, tail pulling, startling them on purpose, etc... I've been keeping my dog in my room (which has little space now) and only take her out to do her business and an hour at most of outside supervised with the kid not able to go out.

The other day I caught him throwing trains near the dogs to startle them. The dog he harasses the most is my mom's dog which is a 20 something pound cocker spaniel poodle mix...

I've been consistently telling him to not do things and to stop and I sit down and explain things to him but the little imbecile just keeps at it. I even have him repeat back what I say to him a few times to make sure he actually heard me and was paying attention.... Thing is, he does these things when we're not around. Like the moment I go to the bathroom and I am there for even a few minutes I can already hear the noise of the dogs frantic barking, etc.

Honestly I kind of deep down I kind of want the dogs to bite the crap out of him so he understands what he's doing is bad. I suppose some of you may not like me for admitting to this- but I just feel frustrated.

I remove the dogs from his prescence most of the times because of this but the dogs dont want to be cooped up in a room, which is very much explainable. I want to be able to give them free roam of the house.

My mom also notices him when he does it and she takes the dog away, and when he apologizes later on she lets him play with her again but he repeats. I may come off as paranoid but I can clearly tell he has no actual remorse over it.

Why? Because when I was his age, and I did something bad I had the same stupid little grin he's giving. The only difference is, that I never teased, tormented or abused animals like that. I may have accidentally startled some accidentally but never on purpose unless they were doing something self-endangering...

Now for those of you who may think he's not old enough to know at the very least that what he is doing is bad, mean and just downright evil-- he's smarter than he lets on, you were 12 once and just think back to those times. Did you purposely like to bother animals?

I have been speaking to him constantly about it, he does it often enough a day that I can tell that he just didnt forget.

He's not even my kid, or my problem but when he's doing things to bother or hurt our animals that's when I stepped in. This same kid used to have a pet turtle once(I dont even understand why they bought him one as he was 6) and the little arseling killed the turtle within the day because he kept using it as a car.

I just don't understand why would anyone do this, or if he's just a psychopath and we don't even know it. I mean the turtle thing I get it- he was 5-6 and that was more on his parents fault, but he's not a baby/toddler/super young kid anymore.

I've met plenty of other kids who had better common sense than he does and weren't actually cruel.

I can't even give him a slap on the wrist(Figurative speech-- meaning I cant ground him) as he's not my kid but I have been feeling like disconnecting the internet, tv, etc for him for the time he spends here until he learns to behave.


All in all, I just wish he had more respect and care for other living beings. Being such a spoiled pampered little arseling isn't healthy for him or his parents.

It sounds like he's doing bad things to the dogs to get attention. He sounds like a sociopath in the making. If I were within three years of his age, I'd beat the crap out of him. As an adult, I would hasten his departure and make sure that he never comes back to visit again.

[matese]

That's awful, and where is his mother while he's tormenting the dogs? 12 years old is old enough to know what you're doing, it's not like he's 2 yo. Poor dogs is right. Speak to your aunt about this. The constant teasing, scaring the dogs will cause the dogs to dislike all kids, especially Maggie who is still adjusting to her new life.

[Shicks]

Oooooo, I don't know how in the world you have gotten through this!!
I would be lived!! No one and I mean no one! Tease and torture my dogs like that. I don't care who's child it is.
At 12 years old, what's he going to like at 16?
I would jerk him away from my dogs, sit, or tie him in a chair and dare him to get up for hours.
He needs to learn, from someone, that's HE'S not the boss.
Wow, I'm mad.
Thank God he's leaving soon.
Good riddance , and don't come back.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by matese

That's awful, and where is his mother while he's tormenting the dogs? 12 years old is old enough to know what you're doing, it's not like he's 2 yo. Poor dogs is right. Speak to your aunt about this. The constant teasing, scaring the dogs will cause the dogs to dislike all kids, especially Maggie who is still adjusting to her new life.

It's why I dont let him near maggie. It's why I don't take her out, and the only time I do I make sure its when hes not there.

His mom is doing chores around the house with us, and he's left to play games. He has plenty of stuff to do(more than I did as a kid-- we never had ipads, smartphones, etc)


I spoke to my mom about it and she thinks I am being paranoid or something but I am not. Ive seen him, he only does it when people aren't looking (or he thinks no one is watching).

Man, honestly where I come from someone misbehaving repeatedly like that would get a whooping of the lifetime. It made us behave, and if that didn't work anything we liked that gave us pleasure/amusement was removed. (Toys, tv, etc).

I am not going to judge someones parenting because being a parent is tough, and it might just be the individual himself. I just think parents should be stricter, and tougher. You don't want to whoop your kid- fine. But you can at least discourage them by taking away things like toys, games, tv, internet, electronics in general, grounded in your room.

She's stern with him but apparently not stern enough to dissuade him. He doesn't just not listen to me, he doesnt listen to his mom or his aunt.

Quite honestly, some may hate me for saying this but I somewhat hope that sasha snaps and bites the crap out of him enough so that he understands.

Man, I remember as a 6 year old I stepped on a cats tail by accident, and the cat bit and scratched me. You didn't catch me bothering cats accidental or otherwise.

It just kind of feels weird because after dealing with a few crazy people and psychopaths especially when I was in highschool you kinda learn to tell the telltale signs of a psychopath

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Shicks

Oooooo, I don't know how in the world you have gotten through this!!
I would be lived!! No one and I mean no one! Tease and torture my dogs like that. I don't care who's child it is.
At 12 years old, what's he going to like at 16?
I would jerk him away from my dogs, sit, or tie him in a chair and dare him to get up for hours.
He needs to learn, from someone, that's HE'S not the boss.
Wow, I'm mad.
Thank God he's leaving soon.
Good riddance , and don't come back.

I had mixed feelings because in other aspects hes not that bad. But when that comes out thats what makes me worry. I have mixed feelings because I had thought that he should get whooped, or punished severely (yet humanely)... but with all the recent you can't discipline your kids with even spanking crap I can't even think of how. It's how my family, and my parents and grandparents and grandparents grandparents were raised and so on, and we all turned out fine.

In fact my grandma to me was a saint and so is the alive one as well...


To be honest, I wish I was within the age range that he is because then I'd beat the crap out of him. I was always peaceful, but I never took any crap like that. I rarely ever got violent or into any fights but I stood up for what was right. I may have been bad sometimes but I would never had allowed someone to bully some other living being.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by pstinard

It sounds like he's doing bad things to the dogs to get attention. He sounds like a sociopath in the making. If I were within three years of his age, I'd beat the crap out of him. As an adult, I would hasten his departure and make sure that he never comes back to visit again.

I mean I get it, he's been through a lot of crap, he's probably had to deal with stuff I don't even know about but that doesn't give him the right to behave the way he is.

If I was walking my dog, and some random kid was trying to abuse my dog I may or may not (depending on the age and if I can just run away from them) attempt to pepper spray them.

That kind of behavior certainly heralds the time a potential serial killer or criminal of some sort is born. That's how things start. They escalate. He's been doing this to the other dog every flipping year since he was able to walk.

He thinks it's funny/amusing but it's not.

Thank god he rarely comes here. Like maybe once every year for a few days or a week or two... sometimes every 2-3 years but still...

Thing is, I talk to my aunt but it goes through one ear and out through the other. I don't think she believes me that her kid could be a little monster...

I think she thinks I am over exaggerating. Maybe Ill just record him doing it. Then she'd know and maybe when she gets home shell take him to some kind of help because clearly he needs it.

Harassing animals isnt normal or healthy.... I mean if you're playing a game cat with those feather sticks or a dog with something like that. Because that's just a game, a legitimate "catch" game. No ones being harassed or hurt.

[Lovetodream88]

He is way old enough to know better. I would be going to his mother to say this needs to stop. I have a 2 year old cousin who knows how to treat animals so no doubt a 12 year old should be old enough heck 12 is when you go into middle school. I would be pissed.

[matese]

It would be very bad if your mom's dog bit this kid, she just may bite other children and that would be a bad thing. It's good that you keep Maggie away from him, your mom's dog knows this kid, has been in his company, Maggie has not. You want all the dogs in your family to be dog, ppl, and children friendly. Thank god they are leaving soon.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

Harassing animals isnt normal or healthy.... I mean if you're playing a game cat with those feather sticks or a dog with something like that. Because that's just a game, a legitimate "catch" game. No ones being harassed or hurt.

Exactly right. Harassing/taunting/torturing other living beings and getting some sort of pleasure from it, or something positive from it is pretty sociopathic / psychopathic.

Ya know...if it were me, I think I might call animal control and ask them to send an officer over to speak with him. Maybe someone in an official looking uniform will set the little arseling straight.

Honestly though...? This falls almost entirely upon the aunt. He is HER responsibility; she should be making him follow whatever YOUR house rules are - period, end of story, done and done. Not cool that she isn't .

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

He is way old enough to know better. I would be going to his mother to say this needs to stop. I have a 2 year old cousin who knows how to treat animals so no doubt a 12 year old should be old enough heck 12 is when you go into middle school. I would be pissed.

I know but people around me spoil him and say he's just a kid and doesnt know any better. I mean this is somewhat related and a bit off topic.

But let me ask any of you. Do you think they would be singing the same tune if a similar aged child (12 years or less) decided to take a weapon to school and start randomly committing atrocities such as torture and murder to other children, staff, etc... do you think he would be treated as "just as a kid"? Where is the fine line that is between him staying as "just as a kid", and "responsible for his actions". I'd understand if he was 2 years old, or even 4 years old.


So I did a little test today, and forgive me for doing so. But I wanted to have more than enough proof that it's not accidental, that he indeed knows what he is doing.

I left a little surprise hidden, recording his actions and I got him on camera. He bothered her 6 times in half an hour because I didn't even need the cam. I could hear him laughing like a little POS and I heard her whimpering barks.

They weren't the kind of "there's someone at the door" bark, it was more of a "leave me alone" bark or "stop it" bark.


I have shown my mom and now I have her also in my room. When I am not in the room, sasha free roams, but my dog stays in the crate. But since I'm always in the room (almost always) she wont be in the crate for long either... Still. I know sasha wants to free roam the whole house.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Exactly right. Harassing/taunting/torturing other living beings and getting some sort of pleasure from it, or something positive from it is pretty sociopathic / psychopathic.

Ya know...if it were me, I think I might call animal control and ask them to send an officer over to speak with him. Maybe someone in an official looking uniform will set the little arseling straight.

Honestly though...? This falls almost entirely upon the aunt. He is HER responsibility; she should be making him follow whatever YOUR house rules are - period, end of story, done and done. Not cool that she isn't .

I'm not fond of her because of that. Obviously he was either poorly raised or has some deeper issues non-parenting related... but eitherway it doesnt help that shes not constantly looking at the arseling or strict enough on him.

I don't hate the kid, I can sense that he has some emotional disturbances and possible psychological or psychiatric issues... but still not really much of an excuse to abuse or harass...

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

I know but people around me spoil him and say he's just a kid and doesnt know any better. I mean this is somewhat related and a bit off topic.

But let me ask any of you. Do you think they would be singing the same tune if a similar aged child (12 years or less) decided to take a weapon to school and start randomly committing atrocities such as torture and murder to other children, staff, etc... do you think he would be treated as "just as a kid"? Where is the fine line that is between him staying as "just as a kid", and "responsible for his actions". I'd understand if he was 2 years old, or even 4 years old.


So I did a little test today, and forgive me for doing so. But I wanted to have more than enough proof that it's not accidental, that he indeed knows what he is doing.

I left a little surprise hidden, recording his actions and I got him on camera. He bothered her 6 times in half an hour because I didn't even need the cam. I could hear him laughing like a little POS and I heard her whimpering barks.

They weren't the kind of "there's someone at the door" bark, it was more of a "leave me alone" bark or "stop it" bark.


I have shown my mom and now I have her also in my room. When I am not in the room, sasha free roams, but my dog stays in the crate. But since I'm always in the room (almost always) she wont be in the crate for long either... Still. I know sasha wants to free roam the whole house.

At 12 he is about to be a teenager he isn't just a kid.

[TysonMyBoy]

Please take this very seriously. Any child that purposely and continually tortures, torments, teases, or abuses an animal could potentially have a serious mental health issue. THIS IS NOT NORMAL. Follow your instincts and "gut feeling" and protect your pets and younger children around this child at all times.


I am not typically over dramatic and I realize this is a site for Yorkie lovers to discuss all things Yorkie. I am a Social Worker and have worked with children suffering from mental illness. A question on EVERY assessment, pertains to animal abuse (either exposure to or participation in). Animal abuse is a HUGE indicator or red flag for many diagnoses of mental illness.


Please, please watch your pets and younger children very carefully. Your post set off so many warning bells in my head!

[yavenay]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

It's why I dont let him near maggie. It's why I don't take her out, and the only time I do I make sure its when hes not there.

His mom is doing chores around the house with us, and he's left to play games. He has plenty of stuff to do(more than I did as a kid-- we never had ipads, smartphones, etc)


I spoke to my mom about it and she thinks I am being paranoid or something but I am not. Ive seen him, he only does it when people aren't looking (or he thinks no one is watching).

Man, honestly where I come from someone misbehaving repeatedly like that would get a whooping of the lifetime. It made us behave, and if that didn't work anything we liked that gave us pleasure/amusement was removed. (Toys, tv, etc).

I am not going to judge someones parenting because being a parent is tough, and it might just be the individual himself. I just think parents should be stricter, and tougher. You don't want to whoop your kid- fine. But you can at least discourage them by taking away things like toys, games, tv, internet, electronics in general, grounded in your room.

She's stern with him but apparently not stern enough to dissuade him. He doesn't just not listen to me, he doesnt listen to his mom or his aunt.

Quite honestly, some may hate me for saying this but I somewhat hope that sasha snaps and bites the crap out of him enough so that he understands.

Man, I remember as a 6 year old I stepped on a cats tail by accident, and the cat bit and scratched me. You didn't catch me bothering cats accidental or otherwise.

It just kind of feels weird because after dealing with a few crazy people and psychopaths especially when I was in highschool you kinda learn to tell the telltale signs of a psychopath

What's scary is what he does to the dogs when no one is around. He is probably doing a lot more than just pulling their tails. I wondered if he has actually killed any animals, if so, that's a huge red flag along with his other behaviors.