Where do you take your dog?

[canana]

Sorry one more story. I saw this couple walking their large dog on a leash at Nordstrom once. I was wondering to myself, I didn't know you could walk a dog in a department store! Then, the next second I look over the dog took a poop right there in the clothing section! I was shocked! It was so disgusting...

[Bambee]

my princess has a stroller and purse...I have taken her to a few places...the restaurants are the hardest part...she will bark at times so it is harder for me to take her to places without being embarrassed because she starts to bark...you know there are a lot of people who are not animal lovers like us....but I have taken her to a few places....the mall never seems to be an issue....she loves her bag...the stroller she still has a hard time to adjust....places I have taken her...target, walmart, all the pet shops, ulta, sephora, the mall, pier import, ross, Burlington coat factory...thats all i can remember at the moment

[Britster]

Originally Posted by JennaPenny

Chewie goes every where with me. I had an incident at Trader Joes. This... woman.. (still angry) picked her bag up and hastily put it back down when Dan gave her the eye. She was a worker and she said, dogs aren't ALLOWED to be near food, so take her out of the cart. If I want her near my freaking food, I can, but I digress. I waited to calm down and called the next day. I mention it because it's the only bad experience I've had.

Dogs aren't allowed in grocery stores- unless they are a service dog. I would think this would be common knowledge. Also inside the cart would be considered unsanitary, people put their food in those carts.... I can understand why they were mad.

[JennaPenny]

Originally Posted by Britster

Dogs aren't allowed in grocery stores- unless they are a service dog. I would think this would be common knowledge. Also inside the cart would be considered unsanitary, people put their food in those carts.... I can understand why they were mad.

I come on here for advice, and to learn about other yorkies-not to be spoken down to. I apologize to the admins if I skirted any rules by saying this.

I'll continue to take my carrier in with me, and when I pay I will be putting her in it, with the managers approval.

[Furkidsfurme]

I though that was a disappointing comment as well. I guess some of us do kind of forget that our little yorkies are actually dogs, and not little humans. :-)

[mimimomo]

It's the law...some restaurants allow pets in the outdoor patio areas. Unless your pet is a service dog, they are not allowed in grocery stores or any store that sells food.

Laws Regarding Dogs in a Grocery Store | Business & Entrepreneurship - azcentral.com


No Dogs Allowed

The Food and Drug Administration's Food Guide lays down the law: with few exceptions, live animals of any kind are not permitted on the premises of a grocery store, a restaurant or other food establishment. The prohibition applies to dogs, cats, birds and other animals. Animals are unsanitary, and the law protects the national food supply from contamination from dog drool, urine, feces and other material that dogs carry on their coats and paws and might leave behind on store shelves or counters.





FDA Food Code 2009: Chapter 6 - Physical Facilities

6-501.115 Prohibiting Animals.

(A) Except as specified in ¶¶ (B) and (C) of this section, live animals may not be allowed on the premises of a food establishment. Pf
(B) Live animals may be allowed in the following situations if the contamination of food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles can not result:
<ol style="list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none">(1) Edible fish or decorative fish in aquariums, shellfish or crustacea on ice or under refrigeration, and shellfish and crustacea in display tank systems;
(2) Patrol dogs accompanying police or security officers in offices and dining, sales, and storage areas, and sentry dogs running loose in outside fenced areas;
(3) In areas that are not used for food preparation and that are usually open for customers, such as dining and sales areas, service animals that are controlled by the disabled employee or person, if a health or safety hazard will not result from the presence or activities of the service animal;
(4) Pets in the common dining areas of institutional care facilities such as nursing homes, assisted living facilities, group homes, or residential care facilities at times other than during meals if:
<ol style="list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none">(a) Effective partitioning and self-closing doors separate the common dining areas from food storage or food preparation areas,
(b) Condiments, equipment, and utensils are stored in enclosed cabinets or removed from the common dining areas when pets are present, and
(c) Dining areas including tables, countertops, and similar surfaces are effectively cleaned before the next meal service; and
</ol>(5) In areas that are not used for food preparation, storage, sales, display, or dining, in which there are caged animals or animals that are similarly confined, such as in a variety store that sells pets or a tourist park that displays animals.
</ol>(C) Live or dead fish bait may be stored if contamination of food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles can not result.

[KairaPup]

THANK YOU for that post.

I feel like I am constantly seeing posts on "how to sneak yorkies places" and other such nonsense. It's illegal. Don't do it.

We're not "talking down to" you. What you are doing is WRONG.

I have a service dog and it makes it very very hard for disabled people, like myself, when you bring your pets places.

[JennaPenny]

Originally Posted by KairaPup

THANK YOU for that post.

I feel like I am constantly seeing posts on "how to sneak yorkies places" and other such nonsense. It's illegal. Don't do it.

We're not "talking down to" you. What you are doing is WRONG.

I have a service dog and it makes it very very hard for disabled people, like myself, when you bring your pets places.

I am disabled. I have multiple sclerosis. I'm also kind and watch my words with people.

I'm new here. Someone came on and stated that it was common knowledge. No. It's not. We have grocery stores in my city that are fine with it. If they weren't, when I spoke to my trainer who IS training her to be a service dog, and the other people PRIOR, they'd have said no. Just like another store I go to and don't take her.

If I had her come on and stated that you might not know that it's not legal, I'd have respected that.

did you ever think that she might have been in that cart because my arm was having a charlie horse? that I put her in there so I wouldn't drop her? Probably not. But to come on and state I'm tired of you people trying to sneak in someone? WOW. I'm not commenting any further. I'm not justifying myself any further, nor do I need drama.

To the admins, there is a problem, please let me know, and I'll discontinue my account, thank you.

[JennaPenny]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

It's the law...some restaurants allow pets in the outdoor patio areas. Unless your pet is a service dog, they are not allowed in grocery stores or any store that sells food.

Laws Regarding Dogs in a Grocery Store | Business & Entrepreneurship - azcentral.com


No Dogs Allowed

The Food and Drug Administration's Food Guide lays down the law: with few exceptions, live animals of any kind are not permitted on the premises of a grocery store, a restaurant or other food establishment. The prohibition applies to dogs, cats, birds and other animals. Animals are unsanitary, and the law protects the national food supply from contamination from dog drool, urine, feces and other material that dogs carry on their coats and paws and might leave behind on store shelves or counters.





FDA Food Code 2009: Chapter 6 - Physical Facilities

6-501.115 Prohibiting Animals.

(A) Except as specified in ¶¶ (B) and (C) of this section, live animals may not be allowed on the premises of a food establishment. Pf
(B) Live animals may be allowed in the following situations if the contamination of food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles can not result:
<ol style="list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none">(1) Edible fish or decorative fish in aquariums, shellfish or crustacea on ice or under refrigeration, and shellfish and crustacea in display tank systems;
(2) Patrol dogs accompanying police or security officers in offices and dining, sales, and storage areas, and sentry dogs running loose in outside fenced areas;
(3) In areas that are not used for food preparation and that are usually open for customers, such as dining and sales areas, service animals that are controlled by the disabled employee or person, if a health or safety hazard will not result from the presence or activities of the service animal;
(4) Pets in the common dining areas of institutional care facilities such as nursing homes, assisted living facilities, group homes, or residential care facilities at times other than during meals if:
<ol style="list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none">(a) Effective partitioning and self-closing doors separate the common dining areas from food storage or food preparation areas,
(b) Condiments, equipment, and utensils are stored in enclosed cabinets or removed from the common dining areas when pets are present, and
(c) Dining areas including tables, countertops, and similar surfaces are effectively cleaned before the next meal service; and
</ol>(5) In areas that are not used for food preparation, storage, sales, display, or dining, in which there are caged animals or animals that are similarly confined, such as in a variety store that sells pets or a tourist park that displays animals.
</ol>(C) Live or dead fish bait may be stored if contamination of food; clean equipment, utensils, and linens; and unwrapped single-service and single-use articles can not result.

This was good information. Thank you. I still will continue to call the people I go to, and from here on out not just assume.

[Furkidsfurme]

I'm really sorry my post caused such controversy!!! Can we all just agree to disagree and move along? This is a wonderful group and I hate to see it tarnished. Again, I'm sorry!

[Magnus]

Originally Posted by Furkidsfurme

I'm really sorry my post caused such controversy!!! Can we all just agree to disagree and move along? This is a wonderful group and I hate to see it tarnished. Again, I'm sorry!

LOL You shouldn't apologize since you didn't cause any controversy. Just like our little furries, we all have different personalities so there will be some head butting from time to time.

Besides, Mimimomo shared some good info with all of us!

[lovestiny]

Peace, love n yorkies...

[Mayzoo]

Originally Posted by JennaPenny

I am disabled. I have multiple sclerosis. I'm also kind and watch my words with people.

I'm new here. Someone came on and stated that it was common knowledge. No. It's not. We have grocery stores in my city that are fine with it. If they weren't, when I spoke to my trainer who IS training her to be a service dog, and the other people PRIOR, they'd have said no. Just like another store I go to and don't take her.

If I had her come on and stated that you might not know that it's not legal, I'd have respected that.

did you ever think that she might have been in that cart because my arm was having a charlie horse? that I put her in there so I wouldn't drop her? Probably not. But to come on and state I'm tired of you people trying to sneak in someone? WOW. I'm not commenting any further. I'm not justifying myself any further, nor do I need drama.

To the admins, there is a problem, please let me know, and I'll discontinue my account, thank you.

Since your pup is being trained as a service dog you need to know the general ADA guidelines state service dogs need to have all four feet on the floor at all times in public places regardless of size. They are to walk at a heel with their handler everywhere they go. They should not be carried, put in carts or anything else that does not require all four of their feet to be on the ground at all times.

They also not permitted to be on couches or chairs in public unless they are actively performing a task such as grounding or alerting. They are to lie under the chair or at the feet of their handler. We allow Mario on the furniture at home, which is as a rule, discouraged in general. However, in public, he is never allowed on any furniture unless kiddo is getting a blood draw and she needs him in her lap.

Some dogs become confused by the two rules of home and public, but I have worked with him extensively and at home with his harness on, he is never allowed on the furniture. That is how he tells the difference. Harness on, all work. Harness off, play time. Mario does well with the difference, but if he did not, I would have to ban him from the furniture at home in order to comply with the ADA recommendations for public behaviour.

[Mayzoo]

Q31. Are stores required to allow service animals to be placed in a shopping cart?

A. Generally, the dog must stay on the floor, or the person must carry the dog. For example, if a person with diabetes has a glucose alert dog, he may carry the dog in a chest pack so it can be close to his face to allow the dog to smell his breath to alert him of a change in glucose levels.

Americans with Disabilities Act Questions and Answers: Service Animals

Sorry in a hurry, but I did found this. Will post more later.

[JennaPenny]

Originally Posted by Mayzoo

Since your pup is being trained as a service dog you need to know the general ADA guidelines state service dogs need to have all four feet on the floor at all times in public places regardless of size. They are to walk at a heel with their handler everywhere they go. They should not be carried, put in carts or anything else that does not require all four of their feet to be on the ground at all times.

They also not permitted to be on couches or chairs in public unless they are actively performing a task such as grounding or alerting. They are to lie under the chair or at the feet of their handler. We allow Mario on the furniture at home, which is as a rule, discouraged in general. However, in public, he is never allowed on any furniture unless kiddo is getting a blood draw and she needs him in her lap.

Some dogs become confused by the two rules of home and public, but I have worked with him extensively and at home with his harness on, he is never allowed on the furniture. That is how he tells the difference. Harness on, all work. Harness off, play time. Mario does well with the difference, but if he did not, I would have to ban him from the furniture at home in order to comply with the ADA recommendations for public behaviour.

Thanks, Mayzoo. That part about all four feet on the ground, I unfortunately did know. I just can't at this point. It's one of the reasons why the trainer is coming to the house for a few visits- the treats and coaxing isn't going fast enough. Add to the fact she's so high strung, we have to get her used to going out of the house. It's a fine line. Not being defensive, you've been patient and very helpful, trying to get you to understand my thought process. She shakes leaving, shakes walking, and any upset in her routine is a big problem. Thankfully the trainer I chose is very good with high strung littles, so I have very high hopes. We put her on the ground whenever we can, so we'll keep trying. She'll get it eventually.