Am worried about Lacy!

[joannscpo]

What a night, how is your baby this morning, and how are you doing?

[SharonSnowbird]

The first couple of hours last night, Lacy cried nonstop, that was so difficult to hear. She has finally calmed down, but is still pretty restless. She will not lay down in my arms like she did the first few days i had her, so i can only type with one hand, as i need the other one to hold Lacy to keep her from falling off my lap, she just can't get comfortable and keeps changing positions constantly. But she is much better than last night. There is definitely something still bothering her. She would not eat any breakfast this morning. I will call my vet as son as i have had my coffee.

[Jkpal]

Piper was very restless and couldn't get comfortable after getting spayed; she also kept stretching her little neck. When I phoned vet she said to give Piper more pain medication. It sounds as though Lacy is in pain. Tell your vet everything you can think of...Hang in there; praying all will be well.

[SharonSnowbird]

Last night the emergency vet said there was a chance her hyper agitated state was due to the Panacur and to stop giving it to her and call my vet today for a change of meds. Unfortunately my vet is closed, so can't call them until Monday. So surprised, as my vet back home in Canada is open all day Sat and Sunday. I am going to phone around to see if I can find a new vet that is open on weekends. Taking her to the emergency is outrageously expensive, so I would like to find a vert that has better hours. Called the emergency clinic back and they said to hold off on the meds until Monday. Which makes a few more days of being scrupulous about washing her feet, butt, bedding, flooring, and UGO pad every time she poops.

[ZacharyDY]

There are TONS of cases, dating back to at least 2008, of Panacur causing hyperactivity and agitation for up to 24 hours after each dose until the medication is stopped. Simply Google "panacur adverse reactions hyper."

[ZacharyDY]

There are TONS of links to cases (dating back to 2008) of panacur related to hyper-ness and extreme agitation. For example, Google "panacur adverse reactions hyper." It is not *that* rare.

[SharonSnowbird]

Originally Posted by ZacharyDY

There are TONS of links to cases (dating back to 2008) of panacur related to hyper-ness and extreme agitation. For example, Google "panacur adverse reactions hyper." It is not *that* rare.

I googled extensively for adverse reactions, and although I do see people who have said their pup experienced extreme hyper agitation also, I could not find one medical report saying that is a side effect.

I am so upset that Lacy is not on any meds right now for her Giardia, all because my vet is closed until Monday morning. It is just prolonging her uncomfortableness. Will be calling the vet first thing tomorrow to get her on something different.

[Scoobstersmom]

Sharon Snowbird,

Where in Scottsdale are you? There are some good vets in Scottsdale that have at least Saturday hours. Also a couple of good ER clinics. I'm in Fountain Hills but have used Dr. Council at Hillside Animal Clinic in Scottsdale many times and highly recommend her. They have Saturday hours.

As for not being on meds for the giardia right now, I would not stress that too much. My pup came with Giardia a couple of years ago and it took forever and three treatments of the meds before she cleared it. Unless your pup becomes very lethargic or is vomiting, I wouldn't worry too much about her missing a day of meds. It can be a long road to clearing that nasty little parasite and you'll be cleaning and washing feet and bleaching for longer than you want to.

Good luck. I hope your baby is getting some rest now and that you are too.

Diana

[ZacharyDY]

Official drug side-effects arise from pharmaceutical studies—usually long-term investigations, normally conducted before the drug is approved for public release. Given the length of time that the adverse reaction has been noted (even by veterinarians), I wouldn't expect agitation-caused by panacur ever to be listed as an official "adverse reaction." The agitation is not long-lasting, it abates when panacur is withdrawn, and has not appeared to cause harm to the animal—therefore, it would not seem to meet the criteria for new studies to be conducted.

[SharonSnowbird]

Originally Posted by Scoobstersmom

Sharon Snowbird,

Where in Scottsdale are you? There are some good vets in Scottsdale that have at least Saturday hours. Also a couple of good ER clinics. I'm in Fountain Hills but have used Dr. Council at Hillside Animal Clinic in Scottsdale many times and highly recommend her. They have Saturday hours.

As for not being on meds for the giardia right now, I would not stress that too much. My pup came with Giardia a couple of years ago and it took forever and three treatments of the meds before she cleared it. Unless your pup becomes very lethargic or is vomiting, I wouldn't worry too much about her missing a day of meds. It can be a long road to clearing that nasty little parasite and you'll be cleaning and washing feet and bleaching for longer than you want to.

Good luck. I hope your baby is getting some rest now and that you are too.

Diana

Thank you so much Diane, for that info! (Well, NOT the part about I will be washing feet and bleaching for a lot longer!) lol
Lacy is MUCH better today, which is a tremendous relief. I will check out Hillside Animal Hospital. I also found Scottsdale Animal Healthcare, (great reviews) and which is open Sunday's. Thanks for your help!

[scrapindee]

So sorry that you are experiencing this with Lacy. Did she come with the Giardiasis? Did the breeder give you anything for the giardiasis? Giardiasis is not always the easiest problem to eradicate.

[Rachael1983]

I'm sorry you're having trouble with Lacy and I hope all goes well with her at the vet today. For the restless, anxiousness try this stuff called Rescue Remedy. I've seen it calm a few dogs. It can at least get you some rest.

[Scoobstersmom]

Sharon, I have also heard good things about Scottsdale Animal Healthcare but don't have any personal experience with them. It would be a drive for me sine I live in Fountain Hills. Why oh why can't I find a vet that is open 7 days a week! LOL

I am so glad that Lacy is feeling better. When I said my dog went through three courses of treatment for the giardia - she was only ill and had symptoms the first time, when she was diagnosed. After a couple of days on panacur, her symptoms resolved and she seemed fine, but we could not rid her stool sample of the parasite until a month after the third treatment. We kept plugging away at it - I've got two other dogs in the house and the last thing I needed was an epidemic of it. We used panacur all three times. Metronidazole is another treatment for giardia but our vet didn't want to use it on our pup because she was very young and only weighed a couple of pounds at the time.

Good luck with getting rid of the giardia, and with finding a more assessable vet. One thing I really liked about Hillside and also about the current vet I'm using now in Fountain Hills is that they are very available by email even when the clinic isn't open. I've found that both monitor their emails very regularly nights and on weekends and are willing to advise or at least make a phone call to help.

Diana

[Wylie's Mom]

I don't know if it'd be too far for you, but I highly recommend University Vet / Animal Hospital in Tempe. See Dr. Koch if you can.

[SharonSnowbird]

Originally Posted by scrapindee

So sorry that you are experiencing this with Lacy. Did she come with the Giardiasis? Did the breeder give you anything for the giardiasis? Giardiasis is not always the easiest problem to eradicate.

I picked up Lacy on Monday afternoon, and took a stool sample from her on Tuesday to the vet and she was diagnosed with Giardia. So yes, she must have had it when I got her, because she certainly could not get it overnight from being with me. I have had her on bottled water since getting her at the airport.

I told the breeder Kathy, that Lacy has Giardia, and she immediately said none of her pups have it. I suggested to her that she test her other pups for it. If Lacy has it, her other pups might also.