This covers them all....Mercola, Becker, Cesar and a few more.

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I believe this is what you are referring to regarding Skeptvet and stem cell therapy.


Selling Veterinary Stem Cell Therapies: Medivet’s Dodgy Advertising | The SkeptVet

Here is another quote from the Skeptvet about how he feels about stem cell therapy (emphasis added):

"As I have said before, I have no objection to the idea of stem cell therapy. Unlike some alternative methods which are based on unscientific or pseudoscientific theories, stem cell therapy is a biologically plausible approach with encouraging preclinical and pilot clinical trial research behind it. My only concern is that expensive and invasive clinical interventions are being aggressively marketed to vets and pet owners without adequate evidence to support that they are safe and effective."

So anyone claiming that the Skeptvet said that stem cell therapy doesn't work is misrepresenting his statements.

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

OMG I had no idea she suggested it be done yearly. I will stick with my $300 dentals yearly. Those give me what is needed for my pups1

Oh, you'll love this:

Dr. Dodds recommends that companion animals are tested annually as – similar to humans – their food sensitivities and intolerances change over time.

from NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by pstinard

Oh, you'll love this:

Dr. Dodds recommends that companion animals are tested annually as – similar to humans – their food sensitivities and intolerances change over time.

from NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs

I need a mallet to my head! I'm just stunned!

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by pstinard

Oh, you'll love this:

Dr. Dodds recommends that companion animals are tested annually as – similar to humans – their food sensitivities and intolerances change over time.

from NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs

Of course, she provides no proof of this statement either. All of you people getting Nutriscan tests, are you prepared to fork over $280 annually for an unproven test? I don't have that kind of disposable income, myself.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by pstinard

Of course, she provides no proof of this statement either. All of you people getting Nutriscan tests, are you prepared to fork over $280 annually for an unproven test? I don't have that kind of disposable income, myself.

Wow, just wow!! Very unaffordable.

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I need a mallet to my head! I'm just stunned!

I'm not stunned or surprised anymore by what Dr. Dodds says about Nutriscan and Canine Nutrigenomics, but I AM exasperated. I'm exasperated because she has done good work in other fields such as blood transfusions. She's a complex individual, but just because she's an expert in one area doesn't mean that she's an expert in another area. And it doesn't mean that she's not a scammer, either.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by pstinard

Of course, she provides no proof of this statement either. All of you people getting Nutriscan tests, are you prepared to fork over $280 annually for an unproven test? I don't have that kind of disposable income, myself.

I like this test of quackery AKA pseudoscience. This too is a blog/opinion but I think it's point on!

1. Is the product or practice promoted as a “Major Breakthrough,” “Revolutionary,” “Magic,” or “Miraculous”?
2. Do the promotions try to simply elicit an emotional reaction rather than present clear information to help you make an informed decision about the product?
3. Is only anecdotal or testimonial evidence used to support claims of effectiveness?
4. Are claims made about scientific support without giving specific details?
Watch out for the following:

Few or no references given to original research studies. Studies done by only one researcher.
Studies done at obscure, unknown institutions.
Studies reported in small or virtually unknown journals.
Studies reported decades ago.
Studies that have not been repeated.
Funding of research by someone with a financial or professional stake in the results.
5. Is the information about the therapy or product being provided by a professional lacking in the proper credentials?


Warning Signs of Quackery and Fraud – Part 1 | Dr. Walt's Health Blog

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I like this test of quackery AKA pseudoscience. This too is a blog/opinion but I think it's point on!

1. Is the product or practice promoted as a “Major Breakthrough,” “Revolutionary,” “Magic,” or “Miraculous”?
2. Do the promotions try to simply elicit an emotional reaction rather than present clear information to help you make an informed decision about the product?
3. Is only anecdotal or testimonial evidence used to support claims of effectiveness?
4. Are claims made about scientific support without giving specific details?
Watch out for the following:

Few or no references given to original research studies. Studies done by only one researcher.
Studies done at obscure, unknown institutions.
Studies reported in small or virtually unknown journals.
Studies reported decades ago.
Studies that have not been repeated.
Funding of research by someone with a financial or professional stake in the results.
5. Is the information about the therapy or product being provided by a professional lacking in the proper credentials?


Warning Signs of Quackery and Fraud – Part 1 | Dr. Walt's Health Blog

That is spot on, especially points 3 and 4. The ONLY support for Nutriscan is anecdotal, and Dr. Dodds is the master of claiming scientific support without providing references to peer-reviewed studies.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by pstinard

I'm not stunned or surprised anymore by what Dr. Dodds says about Nutriscan and Canine Nutrigenomics, but I AM exasperated. I'm exasperated because she has done good work in other fields such as blood transfusions. She's a complex individual, but just because she's an expert in one area doesn't mean that she's an expert in another area. And it doesn't mean that she's not a scammer, either.

My mind and opinion were pretty much made up once I saw she was hooked up with Dr. Becker and Mercola.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by pstinard

Of course, she provides no proof of this statement either. All of you people getting Nutriscan tests, are you prepared to fork over $280 annually for an unproven test? I don't have that kind of disposable income, myself.

Me either. I would rather spend it on something know is going to help Callie

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by pstinard

Oh, you'll love this:

Dr. Dodds recommends that companion animals are tested annually as – similar to humans – their food sensitivities and intolerances change over time.

from NutriScan Food Sensitivity and Intolerance Test for Cats and Dogs

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I need a mallet to my head! I'm just stunned!

LOL << I actually AM doing just that.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by pstinard

I'm not stunned or surprised anymore by what Dr. Dodds says about Nutriscan and Canine Nutrigenomics, but I AM exasperated. I'm exasperated because she has done good work in other fields such as blood transfusions. She's a complex individual, but just because she's an expert in one area doesn't mean that she's an expert in another area. And it doesn't mean that she's not a scammer, either.

Yeah, it's really a shame.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

I've been staying quiet but your statements are really bothering me.

1st off, if it was a scam, it would not have helped Turbo @ all & many other dogs that did get tested w/NutriScan.

Turbo is not suffering anymore. It was the best $280 I've spent. For you to say these things, you are also talking down to me & my decisions to help my pet. I won't even bring up what you said on my other thread. Insulting.

This is all any of us would want for our kiddos....to find something that makes it all better. I'm glad you were able to find a way to help your Turbo .

Originally Posted by Verbena

I looked into NutriScan. . . I did a little research about what others that have tried it said. There was a number of people said that it worked. This is on other forums and groups.

Just because it is new. Doesn't mean it doesn't work. Look at the facts . . . If it wasn't for moldly bread we would not have penicillin. And they thought he was nuts. . .Something that we were just told from a top ankle surgeon in the country. He told My DBF to try stem cell therapy for his ankle. . .now it is classified as experimental. A lot of doctors do not believe in it. . . But people are finding it is working for them. . . This doesn't mean it is a scam.

I don't blindly believe and follow everything my Dr and Vet says. . . That is why we have second opinions and experimental procedures. If I listened to the first Dr. I would not be walking today. . . Fact ! . . . I went to another Dr., though he didn't believe in alternative medicines and therapies, he had me try them and it worked . .

Just because you vet thinks is is a scam doesn't mean it is. . . There is a lot of vets that sell you on things that are not always better for your dog. They want to make money. I question my vet. I don't give Galen or the kitties all the shots they want me to give them. I am lucky. My Vet is not a pusher. He tells me what is really needed and what is not. And also he doesn't make me give them any shots I don't want. . .

Please don't assume things before knowing all the facts . . . Please open your minds up to new things . . . You might be surprised . . .


What it is worth . . Just my opinion !!

Very insightful . Thanks for reminding people to keep an open mind bc that's clearly needing to be heard in this thread.

Guys, lately we're seeing a lot of snarkiness and disdainful remarks toward those who are seeking treatments or ideas that others just don't agree with...please don't go to that level of treating others disdainfully. Disagree with their decisions or treatments all you want, but please be respectful about it while doing it. There is nothing to be gained or learned from being disdainful toward others...and anyway, in the end, it really just makes the writer look bad/mean.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I wouldn't be as bothered if the price point of the test was, say, $10 or $20. But $280???

That bothers me too! As well as being asked recommended to do it yearly!


That would have to be shown to be really necessary - for $280 I will do my blood work annually - better investment of my $$

[ladyjane]

Just because people are speaking out against the validity of the saliva test does not mean they are disrespecting the people who use it. I don't like people saying things about my choices, such as the choice to use Hill's, Purina and RC products...BUT what I find offensive is when they label them as crap or other such terms and have NO real evidence that their claims are true.

The bottom line here is that Dr. Dodds is selling something that has no real research to prove her claims. I don't see the talk about it as disrespectful to anyone....people are merely pointing out the truth.

I am sorry that Jenny feels as she does because I don't believe anyone has any issue at all or means to be disrespectful to her. She is an awesome young lady. Yes, she made her choice to use this test....and it is not going to harm her pups. That does not make the test valid nor does the fact that she swears by it going to lead people to agree that it is a great product and worth the money spent.