1st yorkie pup! Please help. Any advice on undocked tails or Parti coloring?

[ColesMommy01]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I have a parti girl w/ an undocked tail and I have to say, her tail is just *beautiful*!! I'm so glad it was not amputated. I actually hope docking is someday outlawed here, as I believe it's unnecessary and cruel. Follow your heart!

I don't think I've ever seen your parti girl. Can you post a pic? PLEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by JadeD

I wish my Yorkie had a tail. If I was getting another Yorkie I would rather get a puppy that has a tail as well. I have seen pictures of Yorkies with tails and I LOVE the way they look.

I would buy a parti Yorkie as well, as long as the price wasn't crazy. I think they are really cute.

I am looking for a PET though, not a show dog. I am getting a Yorkie mix puppy for my daughter and although the Yorkie tails are docked the Chinese crested tails are not. I talked to my friend who has the puppies and asked her about tail docking because I did not want our puppies tail docked and she was not planning to dock any of the tails, I was so happy about that! I don't see the point in taking the tail off. Lots of dogs have tails and live happy and full lives. My Yorkie wags his stump at me and I wish all the time that he had a full tail to wag at me. He came to me as a 9 year old though so I didn't have a say in it.

If everything else checks out, I would buy from a breeder like that if I was looking for a pet.

Reputable breeders also don't breed mixes. When not going with reputable breeders you have a much higher chance of getting a puppy that is much more likely to have genetic issues.

[Lovetodream88]

It's very important people realize whether or not or looking for a show dog or just a pet it is very important to make sure you are getting a pup from a reputable breeder. A reputable breeder will only breed to better the breed meaning they will only breed perfect examples of the breed and breed to the standard. Whether docking tails is right or wrong it is still the standard and until that changes they will dock tails. Reputable breeders know there lines way back and know that they are free from genetic issues and they work hard to keep it thatv way when other breeders don't. The best thing for this breed is to buy from reputable breeders who are doing good by the breed not the byb or puppy mills. If we continue to buy from bad breeders eventually this breed is not going to look anything like they are supposed to and we are just going to continue to be over run with yorkies with serious genetic issues.

[JadeD]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Reputable breeders also don't breed mixes. When not going with reputable breeders you have a much higher chance of getting a puppy that is much more likely to have genetic issues.

Since I said My friend isn't docking tails. I didn't say she was a breeder. She just happened to have 2 dogs and they had puppies and my 17 year old daughter is getting a puppy from her.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by JadeD

Since I said My friend isn't docking tails. I didn't say she was a breeder. She just happened to have 2 dogs and they had puppies and my 17 year old daughter is getting a puppy from her.

That makes someone a breeder

[SirTeddykins]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

A reputable breeder breeds to the standard. Here the standard is still a docked tail so whether right or wrong it is the standard so until that changes reputable breeders will dock tails.

Here in the UK, tail docking has been outlawed except for exceptional circumstances. Tail docking was outlawed as a result of people like me who did not agree with mutilation in the name of conformity.


My breeder is an international show judge, a Crufts show judge and a breeder with over 30 years experience. She is reputable as are other breeders outside of the UK who choose to not dock tails.


A docked tail is a FALSE standard because it has not occurred without forced intervention separate to genetics. Ears which stand down are not breed standard, either, but I hope no one here condones ear cropping on YT's on this basis.


You are entitled to your opinion, as always.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by SirTeddykins

Here in the UK, tail docking has been outlawed except for exceptional circumstances. Tail docking was outlawed as a result of people like me who did not agree with mutilation in the name of conformity.


My breeder is an international show judge, a Crufts show judge and a breeder with over 30 years experience. She is reputable as are other breeders outside of the UK who choose to not dock tails.


A docked tail is a FALSE standard because it has not occurred without forced intervention separate to genetics. Ears which stand down are not breed standard, either, but I hope no one here condones ear cropping on YT's on this basis.


You are entitled to your opinion, as always.

You can believe what you want. Here in the US reputable breeders dock tails and again we are talking about the US standard and here in the US. In order to be a reputable breeder here in the US you keep to the standard which is docked tails.

[SirTeddykins]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

You can believe what you want. Here in the US reputable breeders dock tails and again we are talking about the US standard and here in the US. In order to be a reputable breeder here in the US you keep to the standard which is docked tails.

Again, thank you for your opinion to which you are entitled

[yavenay]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I have a parti girl w/ an undocked tail and I have to say, her tail is just *beautiful*!! I'm so glad it was not amputated. I actually hope docking is someday outlawed here, as I believe it's unnecessary and cruel. Follow your heart!

Me too! Duchess has a tail too and I love it. It is so part of her personality. I have had Yorkies with and without tails. I will admit it took me a minute to adjust to Dutch's tail but that was only because I had never really seen a yorkie with a tail and I wasn't used to it. Even still, I knew Dutch was for me and it didn't matter whether she had a tail or not.

[ColesMommy01]

Originally Posted by yavenay

Me too! Duchess has a tail too and it. It is so part of her personality. I have had Yorkies with and without tails. I will admit it took me a minute to adjust to Dutch's tail but that was only because I had never really seen a yorkie with a tail and I wasn't used to it. Even still, I knew Dutch was for me and it didn't matter whether she had a tail or not.

Ok all this tail talk has me looking lol. If I get another yorkie (3rd one) he will have a tail.

[DBlain]

I don't think you said how old the puppy is, to me when buying a puppy that is important because until they are at least eight weeks old it's hard to tell much about how they will look. Personally I like upright ears and would probably only buy a puppy if their ears are up, but I would not care if the mother's were. Upright ears is not a sign of a purebred, my pup Lola is mix but has very perky ears, while many purebreds don't. I love the fact that this lady did not dock the tails, in a way it tells me she may care more about the dogs than the money she will make off them. If you are not showing a dog in the US most tails will be docked but other than that it does not matter. The tide is turning and if a poll was taken I bet more people would vote for tails. A parti is not a traditional colored yorkie would not be able to be shown in a AKC show but personally I love that look, not sure how they evolved but I would purchase one if I thought it was cute and healthy in a heartbeat. There was a time I was a bit like your friend and still am in some ways, I like a standard size yorkie between about 4.5 lbs to 7. I don't like a sooty head or muzzle or an orangy head or muzzle, I don't like a thick wooly coat, a very long muzzle or an extremely smushed in muzzle, that some refer to babydoll faces. But now that I have a mix I love how she looks which Is like a puffier yorkie (she's mixed with pom) and she has the most amazing tail which has turned out to be one of her best features. Funny thing though when I first got her my husband and I were kind of disappointed that she had one, and now LOL I trimmed it recently and he had a fit.

[DBlain]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

You can believe what you want. Here in the US reputable breeders dock tails and again we are talking about the US standard and here in the US. In order to be a reputable breeder here in the US you keep to the standard which is docked tails.

I believe you are confusing reputable breeders with show breeders, but then I also know there are very few breeders that will ever meet your standards

[SirTeddykins]

Originally Posted by DBlain

I don't think you said how old the puppy is, to me when buying a puppy that is important because until they are at least eight weeks old it's hard to tell much about how they will look. Personally I like upright ears and would probably only buy a puppy if their ears are up, but I would not care if the mother's were. Upright ears is not a sign of a purebred, my pup Lola is mix but has very perky ears, while many purebreds don't. I love the fact that this lady did not dock the tails, in a way it tells me she may care more about the dogs than the money she will make off them. If you are not showing a dog in the US most tails will be docked but other than that it does not matter. The tide is turning and if a poll was taken I bet more people would vote for tails. A parti is not a traditional colored yorkie would not be able to be shown in a AKC show but personally I love that look, not sure how they evolved but I would purchase one if I thought it was cute and healthy in a heartbeat. There was a time I was a bit like your friend and still am in some ways, I like a standard size yorkie between about 4.5 lbs to 7. I don't like a sooty head or muzzle or an orangy head or muzzle, I don't like a thick wooly coat, a very long muzzle or an extremely smushed in muzzle, that some refer to babydoll faces. But now that I have a mix I love how she looks which Is like a puffier yorkie (she's mixed with pom) and she has the most amazing tail which has turned out to be one of her best features. Funny thing though when I first got her my husband and I were kind of disappointed that she had one, and now LOL I trimmed it recently and he had a fit.

hahaha! If I trimmed Teddy's tail, I wonder if it or his legs would be skinnier. I wouldn't dare try, though. He has a beautiful plume!

[yavenay]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

A reputable breeder breeds to the standard. Here the standard is still a docked tail so whether right or wrong it is the standard so until that changes reputable breeders will dock tails.

Is the definition of purebred different from standard or are they one in the same? When I think of standard I think show quality...erect ears, tailed docked. Where purebred means to me there is no mixing with other breeds.

[ColesMommy01]

Originally Posted by DBlain

I don't think you said how old the puppy is, to me when buying a puppy that is important because until they are at least eight weeks old it's hard to tell much about how they will look. Personally I like upright ears and would probably only buy a puppy if their ears are up, but I would not care if the mother's were. Upright ears is not a sign of a purebred, my pup Lola is mix but has very perky ears, while many purebreds don't. I love the fact that this lady did not dock the tails, in a way it tells me she may care more about the dogs than the money she will make off them. If you are not showing a dog in the US most tails will be docked but other than that it does not matter. The tide is turning and if a poll was taken I bet more people would vote for tails. A parti is not a traditional colored yorkie would not be able to be shown in a AKC show but personally I love that look, not sure how they evolved but I would purchase one if I thought it was cute and healthy in a heartbeat. There was a time I was a bit like your friend and still am in some ways, I like a standard size yorkie between about 4.5 lbs to 7. I don't like a sooty head or muzzle or an orangy head or muzzle, I don't like a thick wooly coat, a very long muzzle or an extremely smushed in muzzle, that some refer to babydoll faces. But now that I have a mix I love how she looks which Is like a puffier yorkie (she's mixed with pom) and she has the most amazing tail which has turned out to be one of her best features. Funny thing though when I first got her my husband and I were kind of disappointed that she had one, and now LOL I trimmed it recently and he had a fit.

You sound a bit like me. Not too orangey, nose is too long, legs are too long, hairs too dark, coats too rough, not enough attitude, etc. But hey this is a 15(+) year commitment. I think we should be picky!