Urgent please

[Lovetodream88]

Callie started physical therapy 3 weeks after knee surgery. They never put the water hight enough for her to need a live vest and they use there own equipment but you can't put them in the water until all incisions are healed.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Callie started physical therapy 3 weeks after knee surgery. They never put the water hight enough for her to need a live vest and they use there own equipment but you can't put them in the water until all incisions are healed.

Well my physios do it differently. A water vest is a safety factor - especially for dogs that are not used to water, and or are weakened after surgery. The water height is controlled so that at first minimal weight bearing is done on healing joints. And I would never put my dog into water especially an injured dog without a life vest on.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by gemy

Well my physios do it differently. A water vest is a safety factor - especially for dogs that are not used to water, and or are weakened after surgery. The water height is controlled so that at first minimal weight bearing is done on healing joints. And I would never put my dog into water especially an injured dog without a life vest on.

Like I said the water is not that deep there is no swimming it is walking. Their are also three people minimum stand there.

[tsingh]

Today I went home for lunch to check up on Loki- when i got come, he got up and was very excited to me.

But I noticed he now bunny hops.. WHY--- why he is bunny hopping.. should I make his surgery sooner than the 30th? I choose the 30th to see if I can get him to get a little bit better and I JUST AM NOT ready for this surgery. My husband thinks we should be doing it sooner, but I still have a couple of questions for the docs.


Please advice

[ladyjane]

Very happy the OP received a refund!

As for the other discussion on this thread about physical therapy, I can only speak to my experiences. First of all, I have never done PT with any of my pups that had knee surgery or even hip surgery unless there was some other reason for it. I had one that had multiple issues and the surgery done on his leg required extensive PT. The pups who had FHO surgery and CCL repairs recovered well and there was no need for PT at all. I followed the surgeons instructions and had no problems.

I have done PT with quite a few for other reasons. Never has there been a reason for a life vest. The PT I use has an underwater treadmill ... so clearly with one of them, the water is not high. The pups' feet must be on the treadmill so the water is only up to their tummies. They do have a leash on and they walk on the treadmill. Here is a link with a video of Teddy Bear years ago ... he was a very complicated case and required PT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGczL93ytfg

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Very happy the OP received a refund!

As for the other discussion on this thread about physical therapy, I can only speak to my experiences. First of all, I have never done PT with any of my pups that had knee surgery or even hip surgery unless there was some other reason for it. I had one that had multiple issues and the surgery done on his leg required extensive PT. The pups who had FHO surgery and CCL repairs recovered well and there was no need for PT at all. I followed the surgeons instructions and had no problems.

I have done PT with quite a few for other reasons. Never has there been a reason for a life vest. The PT I use has an underwater treadmill ... so clearly with one of them, the water is not high. The pups' feet must be on the treadmill so the water is only up to their tummies. They do have a leash on and they walk on the treadmill. Here is a link with a video of Teddy Bear years ago ... he was a very complicated case and required PT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGczL93ytfg

That's how it was for us too, I have a video some where. I think maybe it was Cathy who also had a video of her dog doing it and I don't remember a life vest.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by tsingh

Today I went home for lunch to check up on Loki- when i got come, he got up and was very excited to me.

But I noticed he now bunny hops.. WHY--- why he is bunny hopping.. should I make his surgery sooner than the 30th? I choose the 30th to see if I can get him to get a little bit better and I JUST AM NOT ready for this surgery. My husband thinks we should be doing it sooner, but I still have a couple of questions for the docs.


Please advice

As I said in your other thread, I would get a second opinion before moving forward with all of the surgeries.

As for getting him better...that won't happen on its own. I am sure he needs surgery of some type, but I would want another opinion with so many issues being discussed.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

That's how it was for us too, I have a video some where. I think maybe it was Cathy who also had a video of her dog doing it and I don't remember a life vest.

There are pictures and videos of it all over the internet. There is absolutely no need for a life vest for that type of PT. The therapist should be right there. Where I go, there are windows where you can watch.

[tsingh]

I have seen videos with the life jacket.. But I will let the psychical therapist tell me whats best for him.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

There are pictures and videos of it all over the internet. There is absolutely no need for a life vest for that type of PT. The therapist should be right there. Where I go, there are windows where you can watch.

Well we all speak from our own experiences, and mine has been as I have stated. In the beginning a life vest is worn. Then we progress to without the life vest. And I recognize there is a need that is my opinion, as you have yours.


*Shrugs* we should all recognize that medical care and the practioners of medical care will do things differently, state to state, country to country.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by gemy

Well we all speak from our own experiences, and mine has been as I have stated. In the beginning a life vest is worn. Then we progress to without the life vest. And I recognize there is a need that is my opinion, as you have yours.


*Shrugs* we should all recognize that medical care and the practioners of medical care will do things differently, state to state, country to country.

Perhaps you are talking about a different type of PT? I cannot imagine anyone putting a life vest on a pup in water that shallow with the pup on a leash.

I think you may be referring to what some people consider water therapy...swimming. Way different than walking on a treadmill with a bit of water for resistance

Google underwater treadmill dog please and then get back to me Gail. This has nothing to do with different countries, states, regions.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by gemy

Well we all speak from our own experiences, and mine has been as I have stated. In the beginning a life vest is worn. Then we progress to without the life vest. And I recognize there is a need that is my opinion, as you have yours.


*Shrugs* we should all recognize that medical care and the practioners of medical care will do things differently, state to state, country to country.

And, honestly, why in the beginning and not later? If a vest is needed, it is needed any time? No?

[ladyjane]

https://www.google.com/search?q=wate...Q&ved=0CDkQsAQ

[lynzy420]

OP your doing a great job!

[gemy]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Perhaps you are talking about a different type of PT? I cannot imagine anyone putting a life vest on a pup in water that shallow with the pup on a leash.

I think you may be referring to what some people consider water therapy...swimming. Way different than walking on a treadmill with a bit of water for resistance

Google underwater treadmill dog please and then get back to me Gail. This has nothing to do with different countries, states, regions.

Maybe, but we have always and I have had more than 5 dogs do PT for one reason or another started off with the life vest even for walking in the water. First the life vest adds a bit of flotation which decreases the amount of weight bearing through the legs. And yes I have done underwater treadmill work for almost 10 yrs now.


And at some point the underwater treadmill walking will progress to swimming; they add in more water to make that happen.


I just took Dara in for physical conditioning on the underwater treadmill, she did 3 miles of walking/trotting, treadmill work, with her life vest on, and then 10 minutes of swimming - not so effective for a large dog in the small underwater treadmill equipment.


I re-iterate while I have only seen two different physios over the course of 10 years, will always put the lifevest on the dog for the first session if not more sessions. Better to be safe than sorry is my opinion.


I am sorry that my experiences do not match up to yours, I can only repeat that things can be done differently.