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Old 12-23-2014, 07:45 AM   #76
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I always stay away from threads like this and avoid all the drama it contains , but I got sucked into this one and find myself in the cesspool this one has become.I don’t know this breeder that came on YT to tell her side of the story but she has the same right everyone else has that posts on here.Instead of getting into a fruitful discussion and asking her questions about the problem…….she is crucified.Since when do people on YT get to be Judge and Jury?Not only did the breeder get crucified but the thread then went into attack mode.
Last year a Mi Ki breeder in my town was arrested by the county sheriff’s office for animal cruelty.Her website was beautiful, it looked like her dogs were living in a 5 star resort.According to her website she belonged to all the right organizations, was as Mi Ki rescuer and all around good person with her dogs being her number 1 priority.When the sheriff raided her home they were sickened by what they found…..I think they seized 50 Mi Ki dogs all stuffed into about 3 cages in her basement where the smell was so bad they had to wear masks.Dead dogs were with live dogs, dog cages sitting on top of other dog cages that hadn’t been cleaned for weeks….you get the picture.The dogs lived in deplorable conditions but boy her website was slick and said all the right things.So what is the moral of my story….don’t go ONLY by a website to determine if a breeder is good or bad which is what exactly happened in this thread.
I am getting tired of the needless, petty drama on YT…..and it seems to me it’s always the same people that are in the middle stirring things up.I have decided to take a vacation from this forum.If and when I decide to come back, I hope things change…… but I’m not holding my breath.

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Old 12-23-2014, 09:36 AM   #77
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OK...so it is not ok to speak to or about breeders but is ok to do it to YT members? It IS true that this thread is nothing but a bash fest .. but funny how some say don't bash while bashing.

I wish some of you would really read your posts and think long and hard about the reason for them.

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I always stay away from threads like this and avoid all the drama it contains , but I got sucked into this one and find myself in the cesspool this one has become.I don’t know this breeder that came on YT to tell her side of the story but she has the same right everyone else has that posts on here.Instead of getting into a fruitful discussion and asking her questions about the problem…….she is crucified.Since when do people on YT get to be Judge and Jury?Not only did the breeder get crucified but the thread then went into attack mode.
Last year a Mi Ki breeder in my town was arrested by the county sheriff’s office for animal cruelty.Her website was beautiful, it looked like her dogs were living in a 5 star resort.According to her website she belonged to all the right organizations, was as Mi Ki rescuer and all around good person with her dogs being her number 1 priority.When the sheriff raided her home they were sickened by what they found…..I think they seized 50 Mi Ki dogs all stuffed into about 3 cages in her basement where the smell was so bad they had to wear masks.Dead dogs were with live dogs, dog cages sitting on top of other dog cages that hadn’t been cleaned for weeks….you get the picture.The dogs lived in deplorable conditions but boy her website was slick and said all the right things.So what is the moral of my story….don’t go ONLY by a website to determine if a breeder is good or bad which is what exactly happened in this thread.
I am getting tired of the needless, petty drama on YT…..and it seems to me it’s always the same people that are in the middle stirring things up.I have decided to take a vacation from this forum.If and when I decide to come back, I hope things change…… but I’m not holding my breath.
What's sad is when people don't read the whole thread before they respond. I did ask the breeder serious questions in both threads and they were never answered. The only thing I got from her site was her phone number the rest was searching and stuff me and others found that way. It is always the same members because we have had to watch a dog suffer from bad breeding. When my dog was hurting I held her close and looked into her little eyes and I promised her I would do everything I can to try and stop dogs from having to suffer. Find a dog suffering from horrible issues because of bad breeding and after spending time with them you look them in the eye and you tell them it really sucks but there is nothing I can do. I will stand for these voiceless dogs until the day I am cold and dead if you don't like it and I'm following all the rules all I have to say is ok haters let's do this because it's not about me or you or Linda or Gail or anyone it is simply about the dogs!
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:14 AM   #79
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Wow, is all I can say too. I don't know Kim Balas, never heard of her before the thread where the customer is blaming her for the puppy breaking his leg the day after she purchased him. I'm very confused about the allegations of malnutrition being a contributing cause for a leg fracture after purchase. Why did she buy an unhealthy looking dog?
Poop eating is very common, by the way, and in no way indicates a dog is malnourished.
Dogs naturally see feces as a possible food source. Females instinctly clean up their puppies' poop to keep predators away. People should actually learn something about what they're talking about before spreading fasehoods.
Looks to me like the buyer tried to shake down the breeder for money for the puppy's injury and set out to ruin her reputation when she didn't oblige. I wasn't there, didn't see any of it, but that's how it looks to me. Some people on here are ready to stomp on her because her name is associated some way with Poodles and Poms as well as Yorkies. In their minds that seems to confirm this is a bad breeder.
I'd also like to question the person on one of these Kim Balas threads who makes reference to "socially acceptable" age for spay/neuter. As an advocate of relatively early spay/neuter, this is the first I hear of social acceptability in that decision.
Anyway, these attacks on breeder based on flimsy evidence is a huge part of why I lurk and rarely post.
Rant over for today, I hope. Have a nice day.
My heart goes out to the person with the puppy, but I'm confused by this as well. Judging from the number of threads on YT about poop eating, the habit is not a sign of malnutrition.

What indications were there that the dog was malnourished? Did the vet say that this was the cause of the leg fracture? Exactly how was the leg broken? Surely there had to be some sort of incident, malnourished dog or not. I would think a puppy would have all kinds of health issues (in addition to the ear infection) if truly malnourished enough to have bones breaking.
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Believe me...you can find out pretty much anything about anyone if you dig around enough. It really is pretty simple to do. You don't need a lot of information either to get pretty darn far.


We have heard about identity theft - I have a rather unusual last name, and if a breeding business is on the web purporting to be me I'd really like to know that. I have googled my name, my dogs name, and do not come up with any links to a supposed breeding website of mine - which I do not have. I come up with a lot of show links - showing wins et al - some Yorkie talk stuff, some facebook stuff, but that is it.
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in gemys defense...I don't believe the last statement was directed at Taylor (lovetodream). I may be wrong since I didn't write the post and I'm sure if I am she will correct me! I did feel that you were being a bit rude and pretty much implying that she was lieing about not knowing the breeder. I'm not a breeder nor a yorkie expert...which is why I visit this forum frequently! I think there's a difference between educating people and cramming it down their throats. This thread has been intense from the beginning....which has made it hard to follow.


You read my post correctly. It was directed at no-one in particular, no-one particularly likes to come under a microscope, and many do not fair so well under that microscope.
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Drama drama drama. We critique breeder websites all the time why the difference here just because the breeder came on the site. She could have came back and responded to questions but she didnt. I dont see what the big deal is
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If it was not directed at me I'm sure Gemy would have said that by now since she has been back to post since then but she hasn't. I was not trying to say anyone was a liar but I did apologize if she felt that way. What I kept repeating was there are some facts that people seem to keep missing and I felt the need to continually defend myself.

Sigh Taylor, yet again. No my comment was not directed at you in anyway = just let us level the playing field okay? Have bad pet owner reviews on here too? Hey why not?


So I will give you the apology you *gave me*, I am sorry you felt this way!
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Sigh Taylor, yet again. No my comment was not directed at you in anyway = just let us level the playing field okay? Have bad pet owner reviews on here too? Hey why not?


So I will give you the apology you *gave me*, I am sorry you felt this way!
You know what just like you I will be nasty and not accept your apology mostly because you knew it was a hit even people who haven't posted told me it was a low blow and most certainy a hit. Everyone one with half a brain can see you are standing up for this breeder when yes facts have been posted to show it's not certainly a breeder most people looking for a reputable breeder would by from. It's so strange you have not done it on others. I will not bicker with you any more it's pointless and you will always be better at wording things then me and hidding your hits and jabs. I'm not so I will always come out looking like the bad one. But like I said before I will not stop speaking out about breeders until I'm dead and cold because it's not about you!
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All the comments, both nice and "nasty", are not going to change anyone in to becoming a different person than who they are in reality or on this forum.

People are who they are. Period.

I think all of this is self serving.

Why don't you all end this , and get on with Christmas..
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I always stay away from threads like this and avoid all the drama it contains , but I got sucked into this one and find myself in the cesspool this one has become.I don’t know this breeder that came on YT to tell her side of the story but she has the same right everyone else has that posts on here.Instead of getting into a fruitful discussion and asking her questions about the problem…….she is crucified.Since when do people on YT get to be Judge and Jury?Not only did the breeder get crucified but the thread then went into attack mode.
Last year a Mi Ki breeder in my town was arrested by the county sheriff’s office for animal cruelty.Her website was beautiful, it looked like her dogs were living in a 5 star resort.According to her website she belonged to all the right organizations, was as Mi Ki rescuer and all around good person with her dogs being her number 1 priority.When the sheriff raided her home they were sickened by what they found…..I think they seized 50 Mi Ki dogs all stuffed into about 3 cages in her basement where the smell was so bad they had to wear masks.Dead dogs were with live dogs, dog cages sitting on top of other dog cages that hadn’t been cleaned for weeks….you get the picture.The dogs lived in deplorable conditions but boy her website was slick and said all the right things.So what is the moral of my story….don’t go ONLY by a website to determine if a breeder is good or bad which is what exactly happened in this thread.
I am getting tired of the needless, petty drama on YT…..and it seems to me it’s always the same people that are in the middle stirring things up.I have decided to take a vacation from this forum.If and when I decide to come back, I hope things change…… but I’m not holding my breath.


Good points! Enjoy your vacation and Merry Christmas!
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What a sad thread.. Maybe I'll post this thread started by Ann in hopes of some reading it.


http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...rd-others.html

By the way it is Christmas!! Time to be jolly and Thankful for what each of us have.
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