Hello, My name is Kim Balas

[megansmomma]

I too did a Google search and found her mentioned on a Poodle Forum. Just google Kim Balas poodles. You can see it yourselves. They even go on to talk about a friend who bought a puppy from her with severe LP. It was all in one thread. It said the poodles came from another breeder who was too old to continue breeding and she took them. I found that odd but maybe she's just got a kind heart and a lot of room to take in various other breeds of dogs and cats....IDK. All of this back and forth banter over whether or not she's a bad breeder really doesn't matter at this point. Surely, questioning Taylor's pet ownership shouldn't even be brought into this equation.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by gemy

Lynzy I don't think I have shared my personal phone numbers here, and I don't have a business breeding name, so how could you have googled either one? Just would like to know.

It is pretty simple to look someone up on the web. In your case, all they need to do is google your Razzle's name and get your name...then go on from there. Your address is probably there...maybe your telephone number. I don't know..but you might want to google and see for yourself.

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Kimby44

I would like to introduce myself, my name is Kim Balas. First I would like to say that Yes, I am a breeder and have been so for many years but beside being a breeder I am a mother, wife, daughter and sister and good friend to all of those who know me personally. Most importantly I am human being with feelings.

I don't usually sign up or go on the forums as during the years that I bred and showed my other love (Ragdolls) I was the lucky recipient of being the president of one of the Ragdoll clubs, during these years I learned how really cruel people are to each other. (We allowed no flaming on our forum so we did not have many participants) So this being said, I am going to address the post that has been floating around about my wonderful yorkies and myself.

My hope is that all of you that are so quick to jump on someone that you know nothing about take the time and realize that all is not always how it seems. With all the strife in the world these days the last thing that we as Americans need to do is fight with each other.

I know that many of you have had bad experiences with breeders and I am sure equally many of you have had great experiences and some of you do rescue. But my hope is that in the season of loving and caring that you can stop and take the time to be good to your fellow man/woman. Now I will go on the thread and address the post that has all the hateful remarks about me on it.

Regards,
Kim Balas
Mistibleu Yorkies

Which thread is it? Merry Christmas!

[chickensmith]

Originally Posted by gemy

Wowee and you can tell without a shadow of a doubt based on a web presence if some-one is reputable or not? Makes me so not want to put up a website, for others to base their decisions on!


So you don't care whether or not what the OP posts is factual or not? You just care what your little detective work has brought up?


Bah Humbug I say. The breeder also alluded to breeding (in the past) Ragdoll cats, so what? She might be a co-owner of a couple of Poodles so what? She might breed Poms and Yorkies is that so bad? Two breeds is not outside of the possibility of a reputable breeder.


Maybe we should have on this site, bad owner reviews, kind of levelling the playing field so to speak!

in gemys defense...I don't believe the last statement was directed at Taylor (lovetodream). I may be wrong since I didn't write the post and I'm sure if I am she will correct me! I did feel that you were being a bit rude and pretty much implying that she was lieing about not knowing the breeder. I'm not a breeder nor a yorkie expert...which is why I visit this forum frequently! I think there's a difference between educating people and cramming it down their throats. This thread has been intense from the beginning....which has made it hard to follow.

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

Wow, is all I can say too. I don't know Kim Balas, never heard of her before the thread where the customer is blaming her for the puppy breaking his leg the day after she purchased him. I'm very confused about the allegations of malnutrition being a contributing cause for a leg fracture after purchase. Why did she buy an unhealthy looking dog?
Poop eating is very common, by the way, and in no way indicates a dog is malnourished. Dogs naturally see feces as a possible food source. Females instinctly clean up their puppies' poop to keep predators away. People should actually learn something about what they're talking about before spreading fasehoods.
Looks to me like the buyer tried to shake down the breeder for money for the puppy's injury and set out to ruin her reputation when she didn't oblige. I wasn't there, didn't see any of it, but that's how it looks to me. Some people on here are ready to stomp on her because her name is associated some way with Poodles and Poms as well as Yorkies. In their minds that seems to confirm this is a bad breeder.
I'd also like to question the person on one of these Kim Balas threads who makes reference to "socially acceptable" age for spay/neuter. As an advocate of relatively early spay/neuter, this is the first I hear of social acceptability in that decision.
Anyway, these attacks on breeder based on flimsy evidence is a huge part of why I lurk and rarely post.
Rant over for today, I hope. Have a nice day.

Thanks for the summary on what has transpired. It saves me the time of reading the rest. Well summarized!

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by chickensmith

in gemys defense...I don't believe the last statement was directed at Taylor (lovetodream). I may be wrong since I didn't write the post and I'm sure if I am she will correct me! I did feel that you were being a bit rude and pretty much implying that she was lieing about not knowing the breeder. I'm not a breeder nor a yorkie expert...which is why I visit this forum frequently! I think there's a difference between educating people and cramming it down their throats. This thread has been intense from the beginning....which has made it hard to follow.

See and I totally disagree with you, some things are worth repeating over and over because obviously people need to hear it...judging by the many threads started by newbies who ended up here after the fact....there are also many who come here and say WOW THANK YOU FOR THAT INFO...etc., I seize the opportunity every chance I get, cramming?....nah, consistency minus the sugarcoating...


I can say it over and over because YT says I can, just like Taylor can, just like the people who follow her around and repeat themselves everytime she posts...it all equals out...yeah these threads are always hot depending on the mood apparently...and inuendo is just as good as saying it out loud that last statement was inuendo and just wrong...surprised me really but eh...we will move on....because at the end of the day....unethical breeders/bad breeders/maybe sucky breeders...they always show their true colors....stay tuned, I've got 3 great breeder reviews coming in the breeder section. Also, I've been working on the puppymill list, had to take a break and now back at it...stay tuned for that too...

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Thanks for the summary on what has transpired. It saves me the time of reading the rest. Well summarized!

boy your easy, lol!!!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Thanks for the summary on what has transpired. It saves me the time of reading the rest. Well summarized!

If you are interested in hearing both sides:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...es-beware.html

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Britster

Without knowing anything about this particular situation or even who this person is, I just wanted to add that this forum in particular does seem to be pretty hard on breeders and I see why we don't have many around anymore which is a shame. Nothing is black and white. You can't automatically claim that a breeder is not reputable because they let pups go at 8 weeks old. Many many small breeds leave at 8 weeks old and are absolutely fine. Is it IDEAL? Maybe not. But it IS legal and not every puppy benefits from staying with mom through 12 weeks. A person breeds two breeds does NOT make a person automatically non-reputable. Sometimes what happens is, someone is involved in one breed and then gradually switches to another, but they still may have a few litters of the first breed, and so on, there's just SO many variables, you can't judge based upon that. Same with websites -- some of the best breeders have the crappiest websites, some of the worst breeders have the best websites and vice versa. It's simply impossible to tell.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Britster

Without knowing anything about this particular situation or even who this person is, I just wanted to add that this forum in particular does seem to be pretty hard on breeders and I see why we don't have many around anymore which is a shame. Nothing is black and white. You can't automatically claim that a breeder is not reputable because they let pups go at 8 weeks old. Many many small breeds leave at 8 weeks old and are absolutely fine. Is it IDEAL? Maybe not. But it IS legal and not every puppy benefits from staying with mom through 12 weeks. A person breeds two breeds does NOT make a person automatically non-reputable. Sometimes what happens is, someone is involved in one breed and then gradually switches to another, but they still may have a few litters of the first breed, and so on, there's just SO many variables, you can't judge based upon that. Same with websites -- some of the best breeders have the crappiest websites, some of the worst breeders have the best websites and vice versa. It's simply impossible to tell.

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Do you really think it is impossible?

How about these websites.....or groups on Facebook....

Teacup puppies for sale, Teacup puppy, micro teacup

https://www.facebook.com/RoyalTeacupPuppies

Teacup Puppies : Maltese, Yorkie, Chihuahua's Designer Puppies For Sale


I disagree with both of you. There are definitely things that jump out on breeder sites....just like on rescue sites. There is good and bad in everything. I look at the whole site....and not just what the breeders are breeding...I am interested in HOW they place their puppies. Many just want money and to me that puts them in the disreputable category period! Same thing with rescues...I can look at the site...check out their application and their adoption procedures and get a general idea of what they are doing.

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

If you are interested in hearing both sides:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...es-beware.html

Thanks
I used the link, read until the part about LTD88 being delusional.... I'm laughing too hard to read any more... I'll stick with the summary that someone, magicgenie, wrote. Looking at the customer's original post, there's a little bit that just doesn't add up, some details. PLUS, it was way back in JULY! Certainly, I feel empathy for the customer here and I hope her pup continues to do well. The OP in the other thread certainly has the right to say what she feels because it's her puppy. The puppy had an accident and broke it's leg after she bought it. I didn't see any reference for medical documentation to back up the malnutrition claim. Also, we don't like it, but, dogs occasionally eat feces..... ect ect.

The OP here vented and that's good. For others, one in particular, to continue to bash a breeder and other YT members though over and over with little to no basis of fact, well, that particular person has issues that carries over into many threads here at the YT community. Neither one of these two threads are really about the breeder or the OP anymore...

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Thanks
I used the link, read until the part about LTD88 being delusional.... I'm laughing too hard to read any more... I'll stick with the summary that someone, magicgenie, wrote. Looking at the customer's original post, there's a little bit that just doesn't add up, some details. PLUS, it was way back in JULY! Certainly, I feel empathy for the customer here and I hope her pup continues to do well. The OP in the other thread certainly has the right to say what she feels because it's her puppy. The puppy had an accident and broke it's leg after she bought it. I didn't see any reference for medical documentation to back up the malnutrition claim. Also, we don't like it, but, dogs occasionally eat feces..... ect ect.

The OP here vented and that's good. For others, one in particular, to continue to bash a breeder and other YT members though over and over with little to no basis of fact, well, that particular person has issues that carries over into many threads here at the YT community. Neither one of these two threads are really about the breeder or the OP anymore...

Lol ok whatever you crack me up. You normally turn every other thread into how one member wronged you and all that normally getting your post removed but most of us have seen it. Funny how people in glass houses throw stones.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by chickensmith

in gemys defense...I don't believe the last statement was directed at Taylor (lovetodream). I may be wrong since I didn't write the post and I'm sure if I am she will correct me! I did feel that you were being a bit rude and pretty much implying that she was lieing about not knowing the breeder. I'm not a breeder nor a yorkie expert...which is why I visit this forum frequently! I think there's a difference between educating people and cramming it down their throats. This thread has been intense from the beginning....which has made it hard to follow.

If it was not directed at me I'm sure Gemy would have said that by now since she has been back to post since then but she hasn't. I was not trying to say anyone was a liar but I did apologize if she felt that way. What I kept repeating was there are some facts that people seem to keep missing and I felt the need to continually defend myself.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Thanks
I used the link, read until the part about LTD88 being delusional.... I'm laughing too hard to read any more... I'll stick with the summary that someone, magicgenie, wrote. Looking at the customer's original post, there's a little bit that just doesn't add up, some details. PLUS, it was way back in JULY! Certainly, I feel empathy for the customer here and I hope her pup continues to do well. The OP in the other thread certainly has the right to say what she feels because it's her puppy. The puppy had an accident and broke it's leg after she bought it. I didn't see any reference for medical documentation to back up the malnutrition claim. Also, we don't like it, but, dogs occasionally eat feces..... ect ect.

The OP here vented and that's good. For others, one in particular, to continue to bash a breeder and other YT members though over and over with little to no basis of fact, well, that particular person has issues that carries over into many threads here at the YT community. Neither one of these two threads are really about the breeder or the OP anymore...

And what members do I continue to bash? Hmmmmm are you unable to see the bashing of me even before my supposed bashing start. Yeah didn't think so. I would suspect you would jump on the band waggin because you dis like me for standing up for a member you continue to bash off and on.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by gemy

Lynzy I don't think I have shared my personal phone numbers here, and I don't have a business breeding name, so how could you have googled either one? Just would like to know.

Believe me...you can find out pretty much anything about anyone if you dig around enough. It really is pretty simple to do. You don't need a lot of information either to get pretty darn far.