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Old 07-08-2014, 07:29 PM   #1
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So I'm dog sitting my aunt's 4 pound girl Maltese. About 12 days ago I noticed that she was bleeding. So since thursday (6 days ago) my 8 pound boy Yorkie has been trying to you know hump her. Pretty much he did today. I noticed alot of his sperm was on the floor, but they were stuck together butt to butt. I'm scared about her getting pregnant. Shes only 4 pounds and hes 8 pounds. I don't know what to do. From your experience should I wait a month to see if she is pregnant and if so have her get an abortion. Any risk in abortion to her life. Which is my number one concern. I don't know how to tell my aunt the situation please help
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I would look at talking to a dog reproductive specialist for dogs now. These kind of things happen when two intact opposite sex dogs are together.
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So you are going to hide the fact that your dog tied with your aunt 4 lb Maltese because you are afraid she will be mad. You best get your aunt on the phone immediately to tell her what has happened. Not only that but get your boy neutered. Obviously an unaltered male and a female in heat needed to be separated at all times and you totally dropped the ball here. Maybe it's not too late for a vet visit for that poor little girl to have a possible liter aboeted.
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I'm not gonna go around and hide it from my aunt. I think thats impossible and not right.

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So you are going to hide the fact that your dog tied with your aunt 4 lb Maltese because you are afraid she will be mad. You best get your aunt on the phone immediately to tell her what has happened. Not only that but get your boy neutered. Obviously an unaltered male and a female in heat needed to be separated at all times and you totally dropped the ball here. Maybe it's not too late for a vet visit for that poor little girl to have a possible liter aboeted.
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I'm not gonna go around and hide it from my aunt. I think thats impossible and not right.
Here's a chart that I found and as you will see if you wait a month not only will it be way too late to abort puppies she would be past the halfway mark. You really need to do something right now, today, not tomorrow. Get your aunt on the phone and explain what happened, REMOVE YOUR MALE so another tie will not happen, but you cannot wait to see if she is going to have puppies.


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Date: Wed 9 Jul 114
Sire: yorkie
Dam: maltese
Breeder:
Tue 8 Jul 114
First day of mating.
48 hours after the first mating the bitch should be mated again. Subsequent matings occurring over a period of time enhance the chances of fertilaziton taking place.
The spermatozoa migrate up through the cervix.
Wed 9 Jul 114
Sperm travel searching for a mature ripened eggs.
Wed 9 Jul 114 -
Thu 10 Jul 114
Spermatozoa reach the eggs in the oviducts.
Thu 10 Jul 114 -
Fri 11 Jul 114
Fertilisation occurs in the oviducts which lead from the ovaries to the uterus.
Fri 11 Jul 114 -
Sun 13 Jul 114
Fertilised eggs migrate down the oviducts and into the uterine horns.
The migration continue to enable even spacing of the embryos.
During this migration the eggs will grow into a blastocystes.
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Mon 21 Jul 114
The blastocystes implant in the wall of the uterus.
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Sat 2 Aug 114
The blastocystes will grow into an embryos.
During the next two weeks the important organs will develop.
Tue 22 Jul 114 -
Tue 29 Jul 114
Dams nipples begin to pink enlarge.
The fur on the dams belly and around the nipples may become thinner.
Mon 28 Jul 114 -
Mon 4 Aug 114
Morning sickness might occur due to hormonal changes or stretching and distension of the uterus. Dam may appear a bit apathetic. She may be off her feed for a while and vomit from time to time.
Feeding the dam several meals spaced throughout the day might help.
Your veterinarian may want to prescribe a drug to relax the uterus.
Sat 2 Aug 114 -
Wed 6 Aug 114
An experienced person (a breeder or a veterinarian) can tell by careful palpation whether the dam is pregnant.
It's now the best time to do this because the embryos are walnut-sized now and easy to count.
Tue 5 Aug 114
Start to increase the dams food ration.
Don't overfeed, excessive weight gain should be avoided.
The foetuses are now and are fully developed miniature dogs.
Mon 11 Aug 114
The Dams abdomen starts to get larger.
Thu 21 Aug 114
It's very easy now to feel the puppies, counting them might be a bit more difficult.
Sun 24 Aug 114 -
Mon 1 Sep 114
Dam begins to spend a lot more time in self-grooming.
Her breasts become even more swollen.
She may become a bit restlessness and begin to search for a suitable place to have her puppies.
Tue 26 Aug 114
The dam might lose her appetite during this period. Her abdomen can be crowded with puppies.
It is better to feed several smaller meals spaced throughout the day.
You can easily detect abdominal movement now.
Tue 26 Aug 114 -
Wed 10 Sep 114
Nipples and vulva should be gently cleaned with warm water, you might want to trim the hairs surrounding the nipples, to allow easier access for the puppies to suck.
Fri 5 Sep 114 -
Mon 8 Sep 114
Milky fluid may be expressed from the nipples.
Sat 6 Sep 114
You might want to start taking the dams rectal temperature each morning and evening.
Tue 9 Sep 114
Twelve to 24 hours before she is due to deliver, the dams rectal temperature may drop from 101 to 98 degrees.
Clear discharge from the vulva might occur.
Wed 10 Sep 114
Expected date of whelp. Of course this is just an average. Whelping may take place from the 59th to the 65th day. Puppies born before the 58th day will probably be too young to survive.

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I've got nothing good to say here, I'm sorry for the maltese...she needs immediate care, a 4lb. maltese breeding with an 8lb. anything stacks the odds against her health. Not sure why your aunt would have ANY intact dog around her intact dog...not sure why these dogs aren't spayed/neutered, have no idea what is going on here at all, all I know is your aunt needs to get this pup to either a vet for an emergency spay or to a repro specialist...this is a serious situation. Good luck, keep us posted.
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So you are going to hide the fact that your dog tied with your aunt 4 lb Maltese because you are afraid she will be mad. You best get your aunt on the phone immediately to tell her what has happened. Not only that but get your boy neutered. Obviously an unaltered male and a female in heat needed to be separated at all times and you totally dropped the ball here. Maybe it's not too late for a vet visit for that poor little girl to have a possible liter aboeted.

Get your aunt on the phone NOW, 4 lb female, 8 lb male spells disaster, there is no time to spare, tell your aunt this needs to be aborted NOW, there is NO time to spare. Matters not why not spayed or neutered, what matters is this lil 4 lb girl could very well be pregnant. Call your aunt NOW, get this resolved NOW, TODAY. The safety of this lil girl is at risk.
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Oh and separate those dogs right now. You don't want repeat matings over time. They can t exercise together, eat together, play together, sleep together etc. I certainly hope that you have crates! or at least a playpen
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So I'm dog sitting my aunt's 4 pound girl Maltese. About 12 days ago I noticed that she was bleeding. So since thursday (6 days ago) my 8 pound boy Yorkie has been trying to you know hump her. Pretty much he did today. I noticed alot of his sperm was on the floor, but they were stuck together butt to butt. I'm scared about her getting pregnant. Shes only 4 pounds and hes 8 pounds. I don't know what to do. From your experience should I wait a month to see if she is pregnant and if so have her get an abortion. Any risk in abortion to her life. Which is my number one concern. I don't know how to tell my aunt the situation please help
Being the crazy, super attentive, over reactive Yorkie momma I am, I can not even begin to imagine having an intact female and not knowing down to within a week, when my girl was supposed to come in heat. I would never schedule vacations, get aways, etc, leaving my girl with anyone, knowing my girl was about to cycle. Next point, if I was left in charge of someone elses girl, and I noticed she had blood coming from her butt area, I would either GUESS that she was either in heat, or having internal organ bleeding problems! Blood coming from any oriface on an animal is really not "normal" and requires some kind of attention. THAT required a vet appointment so someone could tell you what was happening!!!! Fortunately, your aunts little dog was NOT hemorrhaging to death because after 12 days of you watching her bleeding, she would be dead. Unfortunately, she came into her heat cycle, and after watching her bleed for 12 days, and watching your male "hump" her for the last 6 days, you finally were rewarded with the ONLY outcome that could have POSSIBLY been predicted.....they were successfully bred. You can go ahead and be assured she is pregnant....the time to have been concerned about them breeding was when you FIRST saw her bleeding. So, since it would be safe to say no one that has anything to do with either the male or the female dog, is knowledgable about heat cycles, breeding, pregnancy risks, whelping risks, raising orphaned puppies, etc, you need to get this female to a vet and have her spayed IMMEDIATELY. While you are at it, get that male neutered.....as a responsible pet owner, we can not let our intact males run around humping all bleeding females, then be stupified, stunned and amazed when a breeding occurs.

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Being the crazy, super attentive, over reactive Yorkie momma I am, I can not even begin to imagine having an intact female and not knowing down to within a week, when my girl was supposed to come in heat. I would never schedule vacations, get aways, etc, leaving my girl with anyone, knowing my girl was about to cycle. Next point, if I was left in charge of someone elses girl, and I noticed she had blood coming from her butt area, I would either GUESS that she was either in heat, or having internal organ bleeding problems! Blood coming from any oriface on an animal is really not "normal" and requires some kind of attention. THAT required a vet appointment so someone could tell you what was happening!!!! Fortunately, your aunts little dog was NOT hemorrhaging to death because after 12 days of you watching her bleeding, she would be dead. Unfortunately, she came into her heat cycle, and after watching her bleed for 12 days, and watching your male "hump" her for the last 6 days, you finally were rewarded with the ONLY outcome that could have POSSIBLY been predicted.....they were successfully bred. You can go ahead and be assured she is pregnant....the time to have been concerned about them breeding was when you FIRST saw her bleeding. So, since it would be safe to say no one that has anything to do with either the male or the female dog, is knowledgable about heat cycles, breeding, pregnancy risks, whelping risks, raising orphaned puppies, etc, you need to get this female to a vet and have her spayed IMMEDIATELY. While you are at it, get that male neutered.....as a responsible pet owner, we can not let our intact males run around humping all bleeding females, then be stupified, stunned and amazed when a breeding occurs.
How did I miss the 6 DAYS part! OMG! I was thinking if it had only happened a few hours before the post there might be some other type of option. But leaving them together for that long and the "humping" ugh.....


OPer have you contacted your aunt yet? I'm very worried about this little one
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Let me just start off by saying that my aunt was contacted after the post. I was t at home when this happened. My 14 year old brother was told not to let my dog out of my room whatsoever and what did he do let him out. I have been keeping hem apart. She was bleeding for a couple days a spot once a day or so. It only happened that 1 moment when my brother let my boy dog out. I'm not that irresponsible. I feel horrible as it is and I guys are making it seem like I'm an evil person which I'm not. You have no idea how stressful his is. I requested vacation from work that way I'm with her till my aunt gets back and I did go to bet and he gave me my options. H
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