If you're considering breeding

[MauiGirl]

Originally Posted by McheleM

There's no boys, just a girl puppy with a boy name.

Ok, now I get it. I got confused about a comment regarding neutering boys and thought you meant pups. I understand now. Hard to keep things straight with a bunch of them.

[JuliannaB]

Originally Posted by LunasMomma

I think that's just a typo, it should be "like" lol

Oh haha Thanks!

[BabyGirl Rosie]

Originally Posted by lisaly

It took a lot of courage to write your post, and it will help others a great deal. You made a mistake, are taking full responsibility for it, and sharing your experience with others. It's obvious the length you will go for your pups after your bout with parvovirus, now that you got Allie the help she needed when a c-section became necessary, and all the loving things you do for others on YT. I'm just as sure that you will care for Allie and her four princesses. Please know that we care and will be rooting for you and your babies.

Lisa, very well said. Don't think it could have been said any better. We all learn from our mistakes. Remember Ye without sin cast the first stone? That helps remind me many times that we all make mistakes. But we learn from them and share with others to prevent them.

Michelle you are a sweet person I know you will do whatever needs to be done for these babies. I have to say they are totally adorable.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Rainbows

I don't expect people to agree with me, I do however expect some kind of maturity and stooping as low to cuss at someone and be a drama queen over the internet is really not being mature is it? You know what I do when I disagree with someone's opinion? I ignore it. There are a lot of people on the internet, with differing opinions, and do you think I let it get to me? I may be new here but that has no relevancy at all. I've had a pretty horrible life involving horrible child abuse, neglect, homelessness, and a whole bucket of other disgusting things thrown at me. I don't use that as an excuse for sympathy or to make people feel sorry for me. I don't doubt this person has had hard times in life, tons of people do. There comes a time when we need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and smarten up. I couldn't even begin to tell you the horror's I've experienced in my personal life the last couple of years, seriously. That is no excuse to be irresponsible or act out. It's because of how hard my life has been that I am so hard, and have zero tolerance for so many stupid things.

I think it's stupid to breed a dog when you go into it without enough knowledge and good enough reasons to do it. It makes me wonder what her reasons to breed her dogs were seeing as how she got so offended over something someone she doesn't even know on the internet said. It must be a really not good enough reason, people who have done it for years could probably chalk up a decent ends to justify the means pretty quickly. ''Oh it was worth it because the mother is a crufts champion and has perfect genetics, so even though this ordeal had to happen it was for the best'' but oh no, I get some dramatic ''feel sorry for me or you're an ass!'' response. That in my book, does not fly. Seeing as how she was irresponsible breeding, I hope she is more responsible giving the puppies good health and making sure they go to proper homes.

Excuse me but I think, really think, you need to go chew on something other than Michele, a long time member, who you know nothing about....s**t does happen that's life, we all make mistakes, myself included....we by nature, are not perfect pet owners, not perfect parents, not perfect in anyway....when you move in a new "neighborhood" online or in real life, be sure to learn more about your neighbors before you go judging and slinging sh$^.


My concern is those breeders, those byb piece of nothing breeders, purposeful breeders, (some of them are here) who breed to make money off the backs of these poor pups who are poorly bred...I see your a newbie, I do and therefore will hesitate a bit with my words...


Michele, I'm sorry you were treated this way....I'm sorry for what you went through, I'm grateful you are wonderful and know you will handle this appropriately, I am grateful your pup has you...I am grateful you shared your story...now don't take no sh%% from NO ONE!

[gracielove]

Some of the people at YT are experienced and informed breeders, however, I believe that the majority of YT members are just Yorkie loving pet owners. They come here and learn a lot of things that they never would have imagined, both good and bad.

For the most part the general public knows very little about the dog breeding business, the good, the bad, and the ugly. For the most part the general public only sees local classified ads, internet ads and pet stores as suppliers of purebred animals.....and they certainly are not sources of good information.

Experienced and educated, reputable breeders are not out there in public view. They don't have the type of website that usually comes up when a person does an internet search because they are not major distributors of dogs.

I believe this OP learned a lesson the hard way and was willing to admit it. I doubt very much that she was given a chance to make an informed decision to begin with. We certainly have seen enough people who just don't care about the information and warnings that they have been given. I once met a breeder who actually would continue to breed a female even after a c-section. Oh,yes, they are out there! Thankfully the OP is not one of those.

As was already mentioned the AKC classified ads are no better than the ones in your local paper. The only requirement to advertize puppies on the AKC website is that your sire and dam are AKC registered. We know that AKC registration has nothing to do with the quality or health of a pup. Puppy mill pups many times are AKC registered. Personally, I wish AKC would get rid of their classified ads as they are greatly misleading.

There are very few places for a person who wants a purebred pup to get the kind of information that they need. I don't know the solution to that but certainly we can at least understand why people make some of the choices they do and continue to make good information available to as many people as possible.

[JuliannaB]

Originally Posted by gracielove

Some of the people at YT are experienced and informed breeders, however, I believe that the majority of YT members are just Yorkie loving pet owners. They come here and learn a lot of things that they never would have imagined, both good and bad.

For the most part the general public knows very little about the dog breeding business, the good, the bad, and the ugly. For the most part the general public only sees local classified ads, internet ads and pet stores as suppliers of purebred animals.....and they certainly are not sources of good information.

Experienced and educated, reputable breeders are not out there in public view. They don't have the type of website that usually comes up when a person does an internet search because they are not major distributors of dogs.

I believe this OP learned a lesson the hard way and was willing to admit it. I doubt very much that she was given a chance to make an informed decision to begin with. We certainly have seen enough people who just don't care about the information and warnings that they have been given. I once met a breeder who actually would continue to breed a female even after a c-section. Oh,yes, they are out there! Thankfully the OP is not one of those.

As was already mentioned the AKC classified ads are no better than the ones in your local paper. The only requirement to advertize puppies on the AKC website is that your sire and dam are AKC registered. We know that AKC registration has nothing to do with the quality or health of a pup. Puppy mill pups many times are AKC registered. Personally, I wish AKC would get rid of their classified ads as they are greatly misleading.

There are very few places for a person who wants a purebred pup to get the kind of information that they need. I don't know the solution to that but certainly we can at least understand why people make some of the choices they do and continue to make good information available to as many people as possible.

As a layman, and owner of a yter, I didn't know this. Yes, I could totally see how this would pull the wool over a purchasers eyes. Sounds like there could be no rules on this if a byb wanted to breed an AKC dog. Seems sad to me, but again I am a layman with no real experience with pure breeds. My first dog was a family toy poodle, who lived a good life. Next was a cross of a Belgium Shepherd and Border Collie; incidentally my bf and I went to this house out in the boonies in ON looking at antiques when I noticed a cage which had bunnies in it. In the very back was a fuzzball, which turned out to be a dog. Koko was a very smart and loving dog, who was very easy to train and eager to please. Both lived to a good age. Guess I was lucky. Now I own a yter, but I did some homework before purchasing him and talked to any owner who was walking one 4 yrs. before I actually purchased one.

[Kaitlynx89]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Excuse me but I think, really think, you need to go chew on something other than Michele, a long time member, who you know nothing about....s**t does happen that's life, we all make mistakes, myself included....we by nature, are not perfect pet owners, not perfect parents, not perfect in anyway....when you move in a new "neighborhood" online or in real life, be sure to learn more about your neighbors before you go judging and slinging sh$^.


My concern is those breeders, those byb piece of nothing breeders, purposeful breeders, (some of them are here) who breed to make money off the backs of these poor pups who are poorly bred...I see your a newbie, I do and therefore will hesitate a bit with my words...


Michele, I'm sorry you were treated this way....I'm sorry for what you went through, I'm grateful you are wonderful and know you will handle this appropriately, I am grateful your pup has you...I am grateful you shared your story...now don't take no sh%% from NO ONE!