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Old 08-03-2013, 05:24 AM   #1
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Unhappy I'm running out of ideas how to train my 5 mths girl

Hi there,
It has been a while since my last posting/comments here. Was pretty tied up with my work and having headaches with Bailey (5 mths old female).

She has been with me for 5 weeks and I'm running out of ideas on how to train her, even the with the basic stuff like response to her own name. She is still behaving like a wild puppy even tho I have tried to potty train, teach her some tricks and etc.

Here's the problem:
- she does not response to me, even when I call her or try to interact with her
- she refuse to poo at the wee pad (yes, refuse coz she will pee at that spot but she will purposely poo outside of the wee pad. Once she poo, she will look very guilty). She used to poo at the right place when she was 2-3 weeks with me. She started to act up in this 2 weeks.
- she ate her own poo (never fail)
- she will bark and make noise in the middle of the night (2 am, 3 towards 4 am). When she was 4 mths old, She used to bark at that time and I would bring her to her wee pad where she will poo and pee. But now, all she does is to sit and look at u. I have waited with her more than 10 mins but she won't do her business. The moment I put her back to her cage, she will pee / poo and ate it

Due to all this, in the past 5 weeks I have been having sleepless night, feeling tired at the office and feeling cranky all the time. The moment I come home, the whole place will smell of poo coz she will step over her poo while I'm not around.

I tried to stick to some routine, wake up at 5 am, feed her ad waited for 30 mins for her to poo but she won't. It's as tho she will only do it when I'm not around.

I have to admit I have been yelling at her all the time, scolding her and being so angry at her more than pampering her in this 2 weeks. I think she is traumatized with how I response to her but she will never fail to tick me off the edge. I tried to be nice to her but she will always do things in a total opposite.

I had a boy Tezel who is going to be 3 years next month and I have never encounter such problem before. He got his down side too but never has he pushed to this stage. I'm this close thinking of finding her a new home but I would really like to keep her with me.

If any of you experience similar challenges, please help me out. I'm really desperate for some advise here.

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Old 08-03-2013, 06:17 AM   #2
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First & most importantly, PLEASE don't yell at your pup. These issues are more properly handled in a calm way. Keep in mind, she's a baby & will have to be taught everything. Yelling & scolding her may affect her in a negative way.

Each of the things you listed is workable but it will require consistency on your part. (I've copied them here) Please, read responses given in your other threads too since they contain a lot of really good advice.


- she does not response to me, even when I call her or try to interact with her
Reward her when she does respond. Try to spend a few minutes every day on this.
- she refuse to poo at the wee pad
This will probably sound funny but you'll have to learn how soon after she eats of drinks she'll want to eliminate. Light exercise can help things move along.
- she ate her own poo
Have you tried giving her a small amount of pineapple tidbits finely chopped up in her food?
- she will bark and make noise in the middle of the night
She may need a walk about an hour or two before bed. This would help with tiring her out & also give her the chance to "go" if she needs to.

I'm not a dog trainer or claim to know everything Yorkie but I can tell you there's tons of information here on Yorkietalk. Try checking out some of the topics in the YT library: YorkieTalk Yorkshire Terrier Library - YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community

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Old 08-03-2013, 06:32 AM   #3
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Hi Normarae63,
Thanks for listing out the solution one by one.
I'll try to be more calm. those sleepless night are turning me into a monster. I'm just confuse why she is getting worse. She was progressing really well in week 2-3 with me. Although with a couple of accidents here and there, she knows where to go. She's becoming a handful to handle since last week and the week before. Is there a certain stage they will be more rebelious?

As for the potty train, how should I do it? She won't poo when I'm watching. In the past, the moment I catch her squatting down, I will distract her and guide her to the right spot and it works. Now, she won't do it when I'm watching.

I suspect she hold on to it until I'm not watching to poo. I don't know how to encourage her to poo in front of me...
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Hi Normarae63,
Thanks for listing out the solution one by one.
I'll try to be more calm. those sleepless night are turning me into a monster. I'm just confuse why she is getting worse. She was progressing really well in week 2-3 with me. Although with a couple of accidents here and there, she knows where to go. She's becoming a handful to handle since last week and the week before. Is there a certain stage they will be more rebelious?

As for the potty train, how should I do it? She won't poo when I'm watching. In the past, the moment I catch her squatting down, I will distract her and guide her to the right spot and it works. Now, she won't do it when I'm watching.

I suspect she hold on to it until I'm not watching to poo. I don't know how to encourage her to poo in front of me...


If you're yelling at her when she goes potty, shes associating her bodily functions with being bad. She doesn't know you're yelling because she's not doing it in the right spot, all she knows is that every time she poos she gets yelled at. So she'll do it when youre not around, poor thing.

You have to start using positive reinforcement. Giving her treats when she uses the pad. Whenever she has an accident, just tell her "no" in a neutral tone of voice and take her to her pad and tell her "Go potty" here. Whenever she's peeing, repeat "Go Potty" as she's doing it, she'll soon know that "Go Potty" means peeing on the pad.

Have patience! My Yorkie goes to the pad most of the time, but sometimes he has accidents. They are very young and just learning.

Also learn the signs she wants to go potty, usually they start sniffing around and going in circles, as soon as you see her do that, take her to the pad.
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Hi Normarae63,
Thanks for listing out the solution one by one.
I'll try to be more calm. those sleepless night are turning me into a monster. I'm just confuse why she is getting worse. She was progressing really well in week 2-3 with me. Although with a couple of accidents here and there, she knows where to go. She's becoming a handful to handle since last week and the week before. Is there a certain stage they will be more rebelious?

As for the potty train, how should I do it? She won't poo when I'm watching. In the past, the moment I catch her squatting down, I will distract her and guide her to the right spot and it works. Now, she won't do it when I'm watching.

I suspect she hold on to it until I'm not watching to poo. I don't know how to encourage her to poo in front of me...
I'll tell you my story with our first Yorkie. My husband & I were team truck driving at the time & we were faced with a puppy who wouldn't use a pee pad. Those two issues were our responsibilities to figure out a solution to. We made sure that when he ate about 45 minutes to an hour later we stopped the truck. We'd walk him & normally when he got a bit of exercise from the walk he'd poo. We'd make a BIG deal out of it so that he knew were pleased he'd "gone potty". As far as allowing him the time to pee, we'd stop about every 2-3 hours & tell him to "go pee". Again, we practically threw a party and he knew he'd done good. Yorkies live to please, they really do.
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for toilet training you should try the umbilicle cord method.this is were the dog is on the lead all day (please use harness) and she follows you and you can keep an eye on her/hi to make sure she doesnt go toilet inside bring her outside every while and if she does her buisness give her a treat she'll cop on soon enough.as for tricks keep it interesting.for sit just hold a treat in the air above her and bring it behind her.works every time.
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Hi there,
It has been a while since my last posting/comments here. Was pretty tied up with my work and having headaches with Bailey (5 mths old female).

She has been with me for 5 weeks and I'm running out of ideas on how to train her, even the with the basic stuff like response to her own name. She is still behaving like a wild puppy even tho I have tried to potty train, teach her some tricks and etc.

Here's the problem:
- she does not response to me, even when I call her or try to interact with her
- she refuse to poo at the wee pad (yes, refuse coz she will pee at that spot but she will purposely poo outside of the wee pad. Once she poo, she will look very guilty). She used to poo at the right place when she was 2-3 weeks with me. She started to act up in this 2 weeks.
- she ate her own poo (never fail)
- she will bark and make noise in the middle of the night (2 am, 3 towards 4 am). When she was 4 mths old, She used to bark at that time and I would bring her to her wee pad where she will poo and pee. But now, all she does is to sit and look at u. I have waited with her more than 10 mins but she won't do her business. The moment I put her back to her cage, she will pee / poo and ate it

Due to all this, in the past 5 weeks I have been having sleepless night, feeling tired at the office and feeling cranky all the time. The moment I come home, the whole place will smell of poo coz she will step over her poo while I'm not around.

I tried to stick to some routine, wake up at 5 am, feed her ad waited for 30 mins for her to poo but she won't. It's as tho she will only do it when I'm not around.

I have to admit I have been yelling at her all the time, scolding her and being so angry at her more than pampering her in this 2 weeks. I think she is traumatized with how I response to her but she will never fail to tick me off the edge. I tried to be nice to her but she will always do things in a total opposite.

I had a boy Tezel who is going to be 3 years next month and I have never encounter such problem before. He got his down side too but never has he pushed to this stage. I'm this close thinking of finding her a new home but I would really like to keep her with me.

If any of you experience similar challenges, please help me out. I'm really desperate for some advise here.
Have you tried crate training her? I am no expert by any means I am just a new mommy just had our baby for 2 weeks today. It seems as if since I have started crate training things seem better. I have found a wealth of knowledge here and by googling how to do some things.
Yelling at her isn't gong to do much good although I am sure you are tired and frustrated wit it all. It does take a lot of patience with this potty training thing.
Have you tried the pineapple in her food. It has seemed to work pretty well for us. Mysty isn't eating her Poo anymore since I read that on here.
Give her some exercise time to wear her out to sleep and I only let Mysty stay out for about 15 minutes if she doesn't do anything in that time I brig her back n and hang onto her I never let her run until I know she has done her business.
Try and calm down and let her know she is loved and praise, praise, praise and I give little treats when she does go potty. Using words and being consistent like when she is whining use Quiet in stern voice and then praising her when she does by saying Good Girl.
Good Luck with your sweet little bundle this too shall pass.
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Hi Bentlemom,
You made a very good point. Thought I read it somewhere that I should not let her see me cleaning up her poo else she will think it's ok to poo at that spot. Will try to bring her to the right spot and tell her 'Go potty here'

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for toilet training you should try the umbilicle cord method.this is were the dog is on the lead all day (please use harness) and she follows you and you can keep an eye on her/hi to make sure she doesnt go toilet inside bring her outside every while and if she does her buisness give her a treat she'll cop on soon enough.as for tricks keep it interesting.for sit just hold a treat in the air above her and bring it behind her.works every time.
hope this helped

That's also a great idea
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