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YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Idaho
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| ![]() If you got to utube & search for tiny teacup dogs or teacup yorkies, poms, shihtzus or chis you can watch videos of these pups actually running around & their heads & eyes look deformed just like the pics. It is nothing they are doing to the pics, the pups really look like this. One thing I can see with the longer haired pups is that the hair around the eyes is trimmed short & some look like they use something rite along the eyelash area, like maybe vasaline but the Chis eyes & heads are the same shape as the rest. These people have been breeding & working hard for yrs for this head shape & huge eyes & this does not make for a healthy dog & it's disgusting. Maybe they do touch up some of the pics but in the videos, you can see the pups really look like this. |
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YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY
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| ![]() They may have cross bred a few dogs and came up with some pups with big eyes but it is nothing that they are consistently producing. It takes many generations of very careful, scientific breeding to establish a "look" that can be consistently reproduced. You can bet those puppy mills are not doing any in depth breeding programs. I have seen complaints from people who have received sickly pups from these Korean breeders that look nothing like the photos of pups the buyer thought they were purchasing. It is a sick scam. The videos on YouTube are the result of breeding two extreme breeds together. They cannot reproduce the look and they probably only get one pup every few litters that look like that. Pets that are bred to have such extreme characteristics are usually prone to genetic weaknesses. It is certainly not worth ruining the health of the pet just to get the look that everyone thinks is so adorable. So sad. Too many people have put out thousands of dollars thinking they were getting that pop eyed pup only to receive a less than normal looking pup that is near death. It is criminal that our government is allowing these poor sick pups to be imported into our country. |
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YT Young Pup | ![]() go on utube and type this in........... Boutique Teacup Puppies ~ Micro Teacup Pomeranians Tiniest Pom Puppies!
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and molliluv too! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Irving TX, USA
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| ![]() omg- did you guys see how much they charge for these! Over 5k, for something that will probably have health problems forever if they don't die. What makes me sadder is all the 'sold' signs. They need to educate more people about these dogs so they don't fall into this money trap that only hurts them and furthers the breeding of these poor babies!
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YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY
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| ![]() Any Pom puppy is going to be tiny.I'm sure they are trying to breed all of them down in size though. They use a thing called goop to strip all the oils out of the coat in order to make it look fluffier and fuller. What a scam. Those pups on YouTube do not have the huge eyes that you see in the pictures either. |
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YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Idaho
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| ![]() Here is a good one, go to youtube & search for ( Chihuahua Extreme micro tiny teacup ) these poor pups most definitely have hydrocephalus & lord knows what else but to an uneducated buyer, they are just cute little chis that every one wants. They breed these tiny Yorkies, Chis, Poms, ShihTzus & a few other breeds with the same head, very round skull , huge eyes & tiny noses & those eyes are most often caused by the hydrocephalus witch is caused by that deformed overly round or squared head. And it only takes a couple of these deformed dogs to start a long line & tons of puppies with the same look & health problems. ![]() ![]() |
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I was breeding Persian and Himalayan cats years ago when breeders decided to go "extreme" with those poor cats. It did take many years of genetic manipulation to get those huge pop eyes and "no nose" cats to reproduce the look the wanted. They started out getting maybe one in a littler (if that) they considered "extreme." They would take that one and breed it to another that also had that kind of look. It was a lot of "too close" line breeding that was a horrible disservice to the cats. Many times breeding two extreme cats together did not produce a single extreme kitten. You cannot change hundreds of years of genetic history that quickly. I got out of breeding/showing then because I would not go along with breeding to change the whole structure of the head. These people are doing even worse by out crossing to other breeds and using deformed and mutated animals. It is criminal. They advertize the ones that have the look they want people to think they are producing but they are not a breed and they are not something that is produced with proper breeding practices. | |
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Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern VA
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| ![]() So many things to say.... but none are very nice so I won't say anything. haha The main description actually says "small living jewel"... Too bad these greedy people don't treat these pups like one. There aren't a lot of laws (if any) that protects pets in Korea. Fortunately, pet lovers have been growing in numbers and slowly coming together in efforts to close down places like those mills, saving pets that are abused and adopting them out properly. |
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♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| ![]() Many breeds of dogs don't have eyes like that. One breeder might get a genetic mutation and breed for that(ugh!) but not many breeds with that mutation. In the video none of them did other than the Chi have the huge eyes, and that's a breed that often is seen with large eyes like that when puppies but they rarely stay that disproportionately large as they mature. They all mostly look hydrocephalic, something that is a genetic trait they are born with - but again - that many hydrocephalic breeds with huge eyes all available on one site? I wonder how many of these dogs live to age 6 mos., let alone a year or older? Those pictures are photoshopped and I'll believe that until I see actual puppies with huge eyes and huge heads like that. Shame on those breeders and even more shame on people who do business with them!
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Donating YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Alabama
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| ![]() I read complaints, written by customers, that claimed they did not receive a puppy that looked like the puppy on that website, the one they thought they were purchasing. They stated that they could have purchased a puppy (that looked better than the one they received) in the states at less than half the cost. I'm curious as to why there is never a photo of an adult Korean Yorkie. ![]()
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YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OK
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| ![]() I was thinking the same thing eva. I've NEVER seen a pic of one of these flat faced looking yorkies as an adult. I think they're kind of weird looking as puppies. I guess baby animals usually have larger eyes than adults maybe the ones that live to adulthood have less noticeably large eyes? |
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♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| ![]() And you won't likely ever see one. Probably many of these tiny dogs don't make it to adulthood and those that do look pretty regular, as those pictures on the website are 'shopped to give the big-headed, big-eyed, short-muzzled look they think most of their customers want.
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YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Idaho
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| ![]() One thing you can see in all the breeds is that they are trimmed a certain way on the head/face & this can make the eyes look bigger too. When you are talking genetics, Chiari is both hereditary AND congenital. Chiari is a deformity at the base of the skull & runs in specific breeds & ALL of these breeds, Yorkie, Chi, pom, ShihTzus all have that against them due to greeders such as this. When you are talking a deformity such as this, you WILL get more pups then not with the condition/deformity especially if you keep breeding the lines over & over. The round and/or square shape is what they breed for & is the cause of the deformity & unfortunately is a VERY STRONG defect meaning it doesn't take many rebreedings of lines to one another to make it predominant & will have most offspring with it. Take a look at the King Charles Cavilier Spaniel, it is said that all King Charles have a degree of Chiari witch causes the big bulgy eyes & hydrocephalus. It is because of people breeding yorkies to have the squaty compact body & that term Baby Doll face meaning very short muzzle & the very round or square face that causes the Chiari malformation as that is not the normal shape the head should be. The breeder that we got our Sassy from did this & now our vally is FULL of yorkies with Chiari ![]() |
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