I had one litter and that was Minnie and mickey. im done on here with u people get your laughs somewhere else when jen gets the results we will go from there.

I wasn't making fun of you, I really understand that you believed you dog was a purebred and it kind of freaked you out to learn that it might not be. The ACA is not a reputable registry, and so your dog’s parents may not be purebreds, and unless you were ultra-careful, your female may have tied with another dog. It's possible for a litter to have different fathers for each pup. Wait till you hear the results, if the dog is not purebred you should probably return some of the money she paid, the difference between a purebred and a mixed breed. She will have a case that can be filed in small claims and they usually don't make you return all the money, just a part of it.

You do have your forward plan, and I urge you to follow the DNA testing on your breeding pair.

Unless you kept a 24/7 watch on your gal who was in heat, it is possible another male bred her, other than your Yorkie. Surely you, now that you have been here awhile, and have seen all the pups of around the age of Minnie and perhaps Mickey, have to be struck by the differences in them, to other purebred Yorkies.

I urge you to stick around if only to read about what health testing should be done on the breeding pair, go to ytca.org to see what the National Club has to offer in terms of seminars and learning possibilities.

Look mistakes happen, even with the very experienced breeders, health issues can crop up and take you by surprise; it is how you respond, and how you support your puppy buyers that is a very important facet of what makes a good breeder.

A little bit of research into the different registries in the States would have given you a really good clue on just how reputable ACA is.

I love this breed, and want to see healthy and fine representatives of the breed producing more lovely Yorkie pups, that meet the standard in all ways.

I can only hope that you do too!

:thumbup: well said :)

I agree that baboon should stick around. There's so many people here who can help you with breeding questions. I don't know how many dogs you own, but when I bred my mini schnauzer, I had only the 2 dogs with me- my girl, and the stud. If you have a few other dogs, it's very possible an accident could have happened. Wait for the DNA results, and if Minnie isn't a purebred Yorkie, take the high road and do a refund.

I have no problem refunding money back to Jen I will be very open to it but then I will have my breeder refund me money to cause when I bought my yorkie I thought I was getting a purebred also. these people on here are making me seem like a breeder that just sells mutts but that's not the case at all I am going thru a lot of emotions just as well, and these rude comments aren't helping me at all. I will more than apologize to Jennifer if Minnie is mixed with anything but yorkie. I'm a very good person

I only have one male yorkie his name is duke. so if results come back that she is mixed than I got sold a mixed yorkie as well

You should have done a lot more research before breeding and still need to. If your serious about breeding you need to get the dogs you have now fixed. Find a great breeder who has excellent examples of the breed that are AKC registered do health and genetic testing on them and find a mentor to help you do this right. Read some books and do a lot more research about Yorkies. Don't breed a female under 5 pounds, don't let the puppies go home before 12 weeks and strive to be the best breeder you can be.

Even of her male is a mix which it doesn't matter anymore who knows what to believe. Minnie still doesn't look anything like the dad do blaming it on ur mixed breed u mite have and trying to cover up something illegal abd unethical is beyond me. I think a completly different mix breed dog thst she has knocked her female up. But I could b completly wrong well have to wait 10 more days and go from there. If and thsts the biggest if ever lol Minnie is a purebred I will fall over lol but then i will pick my self off the ground be an adult and then call and apologise. If she's not i will do what I have to do. It's not only about money. It was never about money it's about honesty integrity and facts. If you own two yorkies u know what they look like when u have a litter of two more you know what they look like y cover it up with lie after lie and not just say the truth or let the future buyer aware of the situation and do homework before you officially pass it over. Just saying.

Not quite that you sell "mutts". One issue is how you treated the owner of your puppy when she had concerns and questions about her Yorkie puppy.
Only you and she know how supportive and elaborative you were with her questions.
I am sure you in all good faith and knowledge mated two Yorkies together and then had a pup that is maturing to look not like a Yorkie at all is very distressing.

What right now I am more concerned about is Minnie. What did the vet say this am? What tests did he/she recommend be done, and what tests were done?

BATS should be done IMO with the kinds of symptoms that were described here. I am of course assuming you did BAT testing on your breeding pair, prior to breeding them?

Honestly though, is there even a slight chance duke may not be the father? Any moment at all another male may have got at the dam?

I got bloodwork done about 1.5 weeks ago and it takes around 3 weeks. The test was 125.00 but me obviously seeing the fact she didn't look like a yorkie wasn't enough for the breeder so I had to go the most professional way I knew. Then is when they found demodex on Minnie. So I'm currently treating that which is quite difficult and we have had issues with it :(

I guarantee Minnie's so called dad is not the dad even if he's a mix breed cuz Minnie looks nothing like him. I'm not sure if she posted any pictures but Minnie's dad lies somewhere else in her house of pets I believe.

If Minnie comes back as being mixed, be sure to ask for compensation for the cost of the DNA test as well.

This statement cracked me up, because it sounds like a line from a horror movie. Can you imagine a horror movie titled "The House of Pets"? (Sorry, I watched "Hellraiser" on Netflix a couple of nights ago.) :yelrotflm

I don't recall Minnie having any health problems other than demodex. Is this referring to something from another thread, or did I miss something?

No Minnie just has demodex but the shampoo for it she had a allergic reaction to so they switched to a pill and now she has a bacterial infection from it that they have her on another pill for that. I feel terrible for her. I just keep giving her lots of kisses and tell her I'm sorry :(

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Thanks for the reminder, and please keep this thread open until the DNA test results are in. I will do my part to try to maintain civility and stick to the topic.

Sorry to hear about the allergies to the medicine and the bacterial infection :(. How is she feeling? Are her spirits up?

I apologize for my references to her grammer/grammar...I am far from perfect in mistyping and such, so I do apologize for that.

I want to get past all the previous posts and ask baboon to consider starting a thread in the breeders section so that she can formally introduce herself and discuss her breeding program so that we can perhaps constructively discuss the pros and cons of it and help her to see why many of her practices are not quite in favor of producing standard Yorkies.

Baboon would you consider having a constructive conversation in the breeders section with a bunch of YTers who really care about Yorkies?

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Only 1 out of the 5 pups Molly had look like Merlin the dad so this fact does not mean much, the look of a puppy changes so much at this age, most of the puppy pics I have of Merlin and Molly you would not know as been the same dogs, they have completely changed especially Merlin

I could be completly off. I guess I have doubt because when I was concerned when she was 13 or so weeks she blew up at me. Instead of getting to the bottom of things professionally she said her hair will grow. Wouldn't the mom and dad have looked like her when they were her age?? Looking back now a reputable ptofesdional breeder wouldn't have handled the situation like that i believe. I was always taught that you treat people how you would like to be treated, and if you have nothing nice to say u say nothing at all. During the whole process Cristina was nothing but very sweet and kind and I was very glad that she chose me for Minnie. She knew from day one when Minnie was only 2 weeks old when I first met her the instant love I had for her. Pretty much every day I was in contact w her thru email video texts phone calls meeting up. She was equally as happy that she chose us for Minnie as well. When it came time for me to finally get to take Minnie home. It was very emotional for both if us. Everything was perfect even for the next week or do we kept in touch everyday to see how she was adjusting to her new home and showing pics of Her n all that good stuff. That all changed instantly simply cuz I was a lil like concerned with Minnie's look. She then began to turn not so pretty and regretted the whole thing doubting my love for her and all. Who does that just because things looked a lil off. When I contacted her again a month or so later I heard nothing. So ref flags went up and now I dunno what to believe hence why I had to get the test it I will then hang everything I need good or bad. Minnie is our preciodbmatter what she is. She our lil unique princess :)

It sounds like she's willing to compromise with you on this even though she may not have handled it in a professional way at first. We all make mistakes, and we can grow and learn from those mistakes. Sometimes, when we're emotional we often say things we regret later, but I think you guys can work this out. I'm glad Minnie is healthy and you love her no matter what!

I think it is quite unfair of her to question your love for your puppy just because you question her breeding. The two issues are far apart from each other. Of course you love your puppy but you paid for a particular breed and have a right to mention the fact that the pup does not look like the breed you purchased. That has nothing to do with the fact that you love the little darling.
Breeders that have more than one breed of dog around sometimes have a female that is bred by more than one male. There are other circumstances that could have lead to your current situation as well. I hope the DNA test brings you some peace about what is going on. No one should ever make you feel guilty about questioning what the actual genetic makeup of your puppy is.

ROTFLMAO:eyetearss
It sounds like this person NEEDS to just stop breeding as she really has no clue how to do so OR how to treat people. The OP has every rite to question this pups breed as it looks NOTHING like a purebred Yorkie.

Hmmm, could you explain what thread your referring to?:eek:

To the breeders following this thread...It's my understanding that if a puppy is mixed with another breed somewhere down the line (not necessarily just the mother and/or father), that there's a chance that the puppy could take on characteristics of the other breed. For example...if Minnie's grandfather is Min Pin, Minnie could have taken on traits from her grandfather. Because Minnie looks so far from the Yorkie standard, doesn't necessarily mean that her father is not a Yorkie. It might not be common, but maybe her grandfather just has really strong genes? Is that correct? Or am I totally off here? Sorry of it's a dumb question, but I'm just curious because the breeder says she bred 2 Yorkies. Minnie obviously does not look like the offspring of 2 pure bred Yorkies. Maybe Minnie got her traits from another relative? Hence, the bewilderment of the breeder. Obviously, there was no testing/pedigree research done. So the breeder was probably surprised by Minnie's physical characteristics. I'm curious what the brother, Mickey, looks like.

The only thing with that is the grandparents are supposed to be purebred as well. The breeder has a family tree type thing. So if Minnie was from mom n dad it would be near impossible for her not to be purebred which means she would not look like this correct?? This is all new to me but I'm trying to figure it out lol.

I really wish baboon would post some pictures. Not that it would help at this point.

When do you get the DNA results? <--- Those will be the proof.

Ummm that sounds interesting;)

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