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yorkietalkjilly 07-23-2013 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by P-Nut Mom (Post 4278505)
Beautifully said! :thumbup::love:
As always. That's Gemy.

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278512)
i could see how this can be an ego booster to most of all of.,,if i program myself to think talk like you all then ill :bravo:
Why are you here if you dislike us so much? No on is programmed anything but most of us have done years of research and been through the terribleness of getting a dog from a bad breeder and having to watch that dog suffer with health problems because the breeder doesn't care about the dogs and puppies just the money. Breeding mixes does nothing good for anyone or anything. Making more of the dogs that are filling our shelters so that they have to die is wrong and heart braking! How you can not see that is beyond me and it really just brakes my heart.

lynzy420 07-23-2013 04:11 PM

amyazer 07-23-2013 04:13 PM
i didnt know everyone on yorkietalk posted in this forum in reference to why am i her if i dont like you...i dont dislike anyone...just dont like aggressiveness mixed with a little rude

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278512)
i could see how this can be an ego booster to most of all of.,,if i program myself to think talk like you all then ill :bravo:
Do you want people to agree with what your doing? Are you looking for some one to say good job? What is it you want from this? It's just not going to happen here we are all to educated for that.

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278523)
i didnt know everyone on yorkietalk posted in this forum in reference to why am i her if i dont like you...i dont dislike anyone...just dont like aggressiveness mixed with a little rude
And we don't like people spreading false info as truths and adding to the mixed breeds that already fill our shelters!

yorkietalkjilly 07-23-2013 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4278520)
Dear God.

lynzy420 07-23-2013 04:18 PM
And here you have some Yorkies from a byb...these are there breeders no? you see the same thing I do...don't you? This is the reality of the byb breeder Yorkies, this is how they live...These breeders always have a couple of well kept Yorkies on hand "the parents" to show you...this is how most of your puppies parents live...what happens when they die? Who grieves for them? I do....cuz I know they are out there alone.

Rescued Chicago Yorkie Puppies - ROMP Italian Greyhound RescueROMP Italian Greyhound Rescue Chicago

amyazer 07-23-2013 04:27 PM
harpaw.com she is breeder that mixes and yet shes not a puppymill

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278540)
harpaw.com she is breeder that mixes and yet shes not a puppymill
Wether she is or not she is still sentencing other mixes to death!!!!

normarae63 07-23-2013 04:30 PM
Amy...will you please go read some of the info in the link I posted about how to find a reputable breeder? Please?

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278540)
harpaw.com she is breeder that mixes and yet shes not a puppymill
A reputable breeder does not breed females under 5 pounds or offer stud services to just any one because they want to protect there lines. Why do you want to keep arguing like this no one is going to agree that a breeder who breeds mixes is a good breeder it's just not going to happen!

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by normarae63 (Post 4278545)
Amy...will you please go read some of the info in the link I posted about how to find a reputable breeder? Please?
Sherry I do not think she is interested in learning.

lynzy420 07-23-2013 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278523)
i didnt know everyone on yorkietalk posted in this forum in reference to why am i her if i dont like you...i dont dislike anyone...just dont like aggressiveness mixed with a little rude
Amy is the truth rude? Don't mistake passion for rudeness Amy, and I also seem to think your fighting for something you don't really believe in either...I think your learning, and I think your stuck between this thread and the change and knowledge your gaining...why don't you walk from this thread, really become the active member I know you want to be. There is so much more to YT than this but Amy this is the HEART AND SOUL of YT...You won't shine any light on your belief we are trying so hard to darken that light...maybe you can help us....

ColesMommy01 07-23-2013 04:43 PM
Thank you Gemy....I hope no one was trying to offend me. I did say earlier that I'm sure there are plenty of people on this site who know more about dogs(Yorkies especially) than I do. Just as I'm sure I'm more informed on some things(doesnt have to be canine based) than some members. But based on what I(and I do mean just me) experienced with that particular breeder when I spoke with/visited her everything was fine. I do not support puppy mills in any way...I recently reported one at the beginning of this month. Everyone on this forum is here for a common reason...they love animals. I just don't want/feel anyone should be blindsided with negative comments because they choose to disagree with certain things...and let it be known they disagree.

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ColesMommy01 (Post 4278566)
Thank you Gemy....I hope no one was trying to offend me. I did say earlier that I'm sure there are plenty of people on this site who know more about dogs(Yorkies especially) than I do. Just as I'm sure I'm more informed on some things(doesnt have to be canine based) than some members. But based on what I(and I do mean just me) experienced with that particular breeder when I spoke with/visited her everything was fine. I do not support puppy mills in any way...I recently reported one at the beginning of this month. Everyone on this forum is here for a common reason...they love animals. I just don't want/feel anyone should be blindsided with negative comments because they choose to disagree with certain things...and let it be known they disagree.
Please check our ytca.org it is the mother club for Yorkies they do not support the word teacups and they are the ones who set the breed standard and everything. Good breeds are part of the ytca and follow there rules.

amyazer 07-23-2013 04:49 PM
it seems like noone here supports puppymills so we are here for a common cause i think thats what should be the main focus

lynzy420 07-23-2013 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ColesMommy01 (Post 4278566)
Thank you Gemy....I hope no one was trying to offend me. I did say earlier that I'm sure there are plenty of people on this site who know more about dogs(Yorkies especially) than I do. Just as I'm sure I'm more informed on some things(doesnt have to be canine based) than some members. But based on what I(and I do mean just me) experienced with that particular breeder when I spoke with/visited her everything was fine. I do not support puppy mills in any way...I recently reported one at the beginning of this month. Everyone on this forum is here for a common reason...they love animals. I just don't want/feel anyone should be blindsided with negative comments because they choose to disagree with certain things...and let it be known they disagree.
NOPE, NO WAY, I don't disagree I 100% reject your logic regarding this topic.

yorkietalkjilly 07-23-2013 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4278531)
And here you have some Yorkies from a byb...these are there breeders no? you see the same thing I do...don't you? This is the reality of the byb breeder Yorkies, this is how they live...These breeders always have a couple of well kept Yorkies on hand "the parents" to show you...this is how most of your puppies parents live...what happens when they die? Who grieves for them? I do....cuz I know they are out there alone.

Rescued Chicago Yorkie Puppies - ROMP Italian Greyhound RescueROMP Italian Greyhound Rescue Chicago
Those pictures fill me with the most awful rage.

Shame on America for letting this go on all over this country! .

lynzy420 07-23-2013 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278572)
it seems like noone here supports puppymills so we are here for a common cause i think thats what should be the main focus
byb's and puppymills and greeders Amy they are no different. Not one from the other.

lynzy420 07-23-2013 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4278576)
Those pictures fill me with the most awful rage.

Shame on America for letting this go on all over this country! .
Absolutely and shame on all of those who in anyway help to perpetuate this needless suffering of animals...those who support/purchase/condone byb, greeders, puppymills, and Petstores. SHAME ON THEM.

ColesMommy01 07-23-2013 04:55 PM
Continue to disagree/reject my opinion lynzy...it's no skin off my back. As I'm sure my still not agreeing with you it's no skin off of yours. Thank you for the link love88(I shortened your username but you know who I mean :D) I'll be checking it out and passing the link to a friend whose looking into getting a yorkie herself.

Wylie's Mom 07-23-2013 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278572)
it seems like noone here supports puppymills so we are here for a common cause i think thats what should be the main focus
The issue of puppymills is far larger than just the puppymills. If only we had ONE issue to focus on when it comes to the welfare of animals and how people treat them as commodities. Unfortunately, that's very far from where we are at as a society - evidence of which can be seen in this thread and elsewhere.

normarae63 07-23-2013 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by normarae63 (Post 4278545)
Amy and Colesmommy...will you please go read some of the info in the link I posted about how to find a reputable breeder? Please?
Here's the link again: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...e-breeder.html

I'd post the information shown in that thread but it's very long & very complete. It was a joint effort written by one of our members to help educate people between the differences of a "good" breeder & those that are not so good. There is also a page that will give you tips on recognizing what a great breeder is. Unfortunately, the greats are few & far between out there in the big bad world of dog breeders.

Lovetodream88 07-23-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ColesMommy01 (Post 4278579)
Continue to disagree/reject my opinion lynzy...it's no skin off my back. As I'm sure my still not agreeing with you it's no skin off of yours. Thank you for the link love88(I shortened your username but you know who I mean :D) I'll be checking it out and passing the link to a friend whose looking into getting a yorkie herself.
That's great you can call me Taylor is a little shorter then lovetodream88 lol

ColesMommy01 07-23-2013 05:07 PM
I definitely will Normarae :)! Thank you for the link as well

lisaly 07-23-2013 05:08 PM
Always a peacemaker throughout my life, I never like to see anyone hurt or feel less valued. But I think this has been a valuable thread because there is a lot of education going on. The passion and yes compassion of the people of YorkieTalk makes it difficult for our community to ignore indiscriminate breeding of helpless animals for the sake of the dollar. When we see little babies being bred without considering the health and well-being of these precious dogs and their babies is heartbreaking to us. We owe our dogs our devotion, our care, respect, and our love. Our goal is to educate, help one another, and always do what we can to do what we can to protect dogs of all kinds. I will never be old enough that I don't want to continue to learn, and I have learned so much here. This thread will pop up in the future, and it will serve as an educational resource.

Rhetts_mama 07-23-2013 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by amyazer (Post 4278540)
harpaw.com she is breeder that mixes and yet shes not a puppymill
I beg to differ. The definition of a puppy mill is that they are out to make money instead of improving breeding lines. By producing mixed breeds, the breeder you listed is very much a puppy mill.

ColesMommy01 07-23-2013 05:11 PM
Thanks Taylor! I'm sure there is plenty of info on that site that may change my mind about alot of things and give me deeper insight on why many feel the term "teacup" is so offensive.

MomtoJasper 07-23-2013 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 4278479)
I do understand how if one is called "naïve and un-educated in the same sentence it could seem like an insult. I don't believe my fellow YTers meant it that way. Naïve by itself is not an insult, nor is un-educated, for after all most adults can be both naïve and un-educated about many topics; for example nuclear fusion, GMO's, IPO's, Black holes, etc.

And for many what makes a reputable breeder is not something the public spends much time thinking about.

But it aches my heart if you are supporting a breeder who is advertising purse size Yorkies!. Oh my oh my.

Yorkies are dogs first and foremost. Proud, intelligent, active, confident, territorial, stubborn, sweet and loving, all wrapped up in a 5-7lb package. Well tempered Yorkies don't just think, they know they are 110 lb dogs.

They are not meant to be carried in purses, but meant to be the proud, intelligent, self-sufficient dog they truly are. They were actually bred to be ratters!

The only time I have ever put my Yorkie in a "purse" was a travel bag, when we flew to Oregon and again to NYC.

The only time I ever picked up my Yorkie outside on his walks, when a Rottie came charging will full intent out of the bush. And that even I was forced into doing, as I had my large dog, charge back, and Razzle was all ready to get into the fray and defend his pack!

Yorkies are fierce beasties, and should be treated with outmost respect. Not relegated to some-ones purse!!!
I have sat back everyday reading this thread. I have kept my thoughts to myself because I believed I am no yorkie expert. Therefore, my opinion doesn't count. But reading this quote, it said everything that I feel. So, even those of us who are just getting started in the wonderful world of yorkies know what is right and what is wrong. Advertising that there is anything close to a teacup in size is so, horribly wrong in so many ways. So many abused mommas used, abused and then discarded like trash all so some person can fool another human being into the belief that the offsprings will live long and healthy lives. All to line their pockets. I could go on and on and on repeating what others have so patiently and passionately expressed.


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