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DBlain · 01-13-2013, 04:29 AM

Except for my first purebred I never bothered to get the next tree registered I figured what's the point they were all neutered, so I must say I don't know much about the organization. Did you say you can only register them if both the parents are AKC

gracielove · 01-13-2013, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Just to be clear to everyone, this does not mean that they dogs can be used for conformation trials; it just means that they are allowed to participate in other venues such as agility. This has been posted many time in the past and breeders typically get very upset. Many families have AKC registered dogs and dogs that have been rescued and want them all to be able to participate in some sport. Dogs enrolled in this program must be neutered, so there is no worry that they will produce offspring. I wouldn't say that the AKC is promoting mixed breeds, it's just that they are allowing them to participate with their pedigreed brothers and sisters.

So will AKC keep pedigree information for these mixed breeds as they do the purebreds? Meaning if the registered mix breeds are bred does the AKC continue to register the puppies?

Lil Sis · 01-13-2013, 05:26 AM

Interesting! I may never use the information but I love learning and now I know

Just as a side note, when I think of mutt I think of a dog that is a mixture of several breeds. A cross between two mixes. Like lady and the tramp lol

Marhcarter · 01-13-2013, 06:23 AM

Although both of Hueys parents were purebred, I have no clue if either were registered AKC. It really doesn't matter unless I wanted to do the earthdog competition because only registered dogs can compete, but since it is just something I considered, nothing we have actually tried, it really doesn't matter. He is neutered and my love doesn't depend on his pedigree! It is a thought for the future, though, if I get another "silkshire terrier".

gemy · 01-13-2013, 06:39 AM

I have conflicting views about this. I thought you had to microchip the dog before being able to secure a AkC competition number? You really do need some form of permanent identification, so that the dog that is being trialed can be ID'd accurately.

I think it is great to promote human/dog activity participation in all the performance sports.

carmen in nj · 01-13-2013, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gemy

I have conflicting views about this. I thought you had to microchip the dog before being able to secure a AkC competition number? You really do need some form of permanent identification, so that the dog that is being trialed can be ID'd accurately.

I think it is great to promote human/dog activity participation in all the performance sports.

I agree Gail, I still have MANY questions, but it was mention that yes, every dog that joint the programs must be microchip and enrolled in the CAR lost and found program.
hugs,
Carmen

bchgirl · 01-13-2013, 07:45 AM

It is not a program for "registration" and no pedigree is provided. I think the word register is causing some confusion. You "register" so it can compete in the events, similar to registering to enter a show. The dog is simply assigned a number. No papers and the animals must be altered...so no offspring.

AKC Canine Partners Program FAQs

lynzy420 · 01-13-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bchgirl

It is not a program for "registration" and no pedigree is provided. I think the word register is causing some confusion. You "register" so it can compete in the events, similar to registering to enter a show. The dog is simply assigned a number. No papers and the animals must be altered...so no offspring.

AKC Canine Partners Program FAQs

Ohhh, now I get it. Thanks for clarifying that I see how the word register caused the confusion...funny how that can happen. This is all very interesting to learn, thank you again for the clarification.

yorkietalkjilly · 01-13-2013, 10:20 AM

How does AKC know the dog is altered or not, and all that that implies, I wonder? I guess they just take the person's word for it on a form?

Nancy1999 · 01-13-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

How does AKC know the dog is altered or not, and all that that implies, I wonder? I guess they just take the person's word for it on a form?

I would think you would need a doctor's word, just as you need a doctor's word for shots. Here in AZ the fee for licenses is lower for those who have been neutered and I had to send in proof of that. I don't think too many organizations take someone’s word, except the vanity registries.

yorkietalkjilly · 01-13-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I would think you would need a doctor's word, just as you need a doctor's word for shots. Here in AZ the fee for licenses is lower for those who have been neutered and I had to send in proof of that. I don't think too many organizations take someone’s word, except the vanity registries.

That's good to know! Thank you. Ya'll are better than any online encyclopedia ever thought about being!

maggiesmom_2007 · 01-13-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by carmen in nj

I know, how cool is that, and this events are all AKC sponsored, which is GREAT, I asked a lot of questions and the lady was very nice, I learned that if I cross breed my silky female with my yorkie male, I can register the litter but at the same time it will not show in my purebreeds pedigree. Also that cross breeding is no longer a BAD word in the AKC, I am not sure how I am treating this, I am going to do a canine genetics seminar soon and I have SO many questions, NEW challenges and oportunities..
hugs,

Carmen just curious as to where you learned that a litter could be registered if it is a crossbreed from 2 AKC parents .

gracielove · 01-13-2013, 11:42 AM

As someone stated above this is a promotion for AKC. It not for registering for breeding. The animals must be microchipped and spayed/neutered. All kinds of dogs, including totally mixed breed dogs are allowed to enter this promotion. They will be allowed to participate in obedience and agility trials.
https://classic.akc.org/canine_partners/enroll.cfm

concretegurl · 01-13-2013, 11:57 AM

Very interesting.

Very conflicting news, great for when an accident happens heck Derik's Rhodesian Ridgeback, whippet cross was from two very respected kennels and sge was a very active dog-what a hot mess mix though...semi concerning this may be a platform for something else though.

I love my Schnorkie...what could be better than my two favorite breeds in one dog right?
Unfortunately I now know the cons of such breeding...nevertheless increases AKC funding and hey maybe this will prevent litter fraud in some ways.

Guess we'll all see how this turns out over time.

concretegurl · 01-13-2013, 12:02 PM

Merles...ugh what a scam that is!
Now they have mini schnauzers in merle...gee the breeder who started thise got a merle yorkie (what the freak ever a yorkchi!) and wow these mini schnauzers in merle sure are super small and have very silky long coats...amazing they look so schnorkie!

Sorry I can't help but ooze sarcasm and can't wait for the AKC to finish its inveatigation against the 3dogs breeders who brought merles here and have been registering them AKC...DNA doesn't lie...even īgenerations later

01-13-2013, 04:29 AM	#16
DBlain Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oakland County MI Posts: 6,190	Except for my first purebred I never bothered to get the next tree registered I figured what's the point they were all neutered, so I must say I don't know much about the organization. Did you say you can only register them if both the parents are AKC __________________ Lola my amazing little yorkie-pom Donna

01-13-2013, 05:26 AM	#18
Lil Sis Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,008	Interesting! I may never use the information but I love learning and now I know Just as a side note, when I think of mutt I think of a dog that is a mixture of several breeds. A cross between two mixes. Like lady and the tramp lol __________________ Shinja mom to Remy lil Sis to Bailey and Sammy

01-13-2013, 06:23 AM	#19
Marhcarter ♡Huey's Human♡ Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ringgold, Ga Posts: 3,333	Although both of Hueys parents were purebred, I have no clue if either were registered AKC. It really doesn't matter unless I wanted to do the earthdog competition because only registered dogs can compete, but since it is just something I considered, nothing we have actually tried, it really doesn't matter. He is neutered and my love doesn't depend on his pedigree! It is a thought for the future, though, if I get another "silkshire terrier". __________________ Huey's mom, Marilyn :When a day starts & ends with puppy kisses, I can handle anything that comes in between!

01-13-2013, 06:39 AM	#20
gemy YT 2000 Club Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntsville,Ont,Canaada Posts: 12,340 Blog Entries: 2	I have conflicting views about this. I thought you had to microchip the dog before being able to secure a AkC competition number? You really do need some form of permanent identification, so that the dog that is being trialed can be ID'd accurately. I think it is great to promote human/dog activity participation in all the performance sports. __________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018

01-13-2013, 07:45 AM	#22
bchgirl Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: at da beach Posts: 15,444 Blog Entries: 2	It is not a program for "registration" and no pedigree is provided. I think the word register is causing some confusion. You "register" so it can compete in the events, similar to registering to enter a show. The dog is simply assigned a number. No papers and the animals must be altered...so no offspring. AKC Canine Partners Program FAQs __________________ Deb, Reese, Reggie, Frazier, Libby, Sidney, & Bodie Trace & Ramsey who watch over us www.biewersbythebay.com

01-13-2013, 10:20 AM	#24
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	How does AKC know the dog is altered or not, and all that that implies, I wonder? I guess they just take the person's word for it on a form? __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

01-13-2013, 11:42 AM	#28
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	As someone stated above this is a promotion for AKC. It not for registering for breeding. The animals must be microchipped and spayed/neutered. All kinds of dogs, including totally mixed breed dogs are allowed to enter this promotion. They will be allowed to participate in obedience and agility trials. https://classic.akc.org/canine_partners/enroll.cfm

01-13-2013, 11:57 AM	#29
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Very interesting. Very conflicting news, great for when an accident happens heck Derik's Rhodesian Ridgeback, whippet cross was from two very respected kennels and sge was a very active dog-what a hot mess mix though...semi concerning this may be a platform for something else though. I love my Schnorkie...what could be better than my two favorite breeds in one dog right? Unfortunately I now know the cons of such breeding...nevertheless increases AKC funding and hey maybe this will prevent litter fraud in some ways. Guess we'll all see how this turns out over time. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

01-13-2013, 12:02 PM	#30
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Merles...ugh what a scam that is! Now they have mini schnauzers in merle...gee the breeder who started thise got a merle yorkie (what the freak ever a yorkchi!) and wow these mini schnauzers in merle sure are super small and have very silky long coats...amazing they look so schnorkie! Sorry I can't help but ooze sarcasm and can't wait for the AKC to finish its inveatigation against the 3dogs breeders who brought merles here and have been registering them AKC...DNA doesn't lie...even īgenerations later __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!