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Old 05-15-2012, 07:55 AM   #46
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Taylor, OP lives in The Philippines, things there are not identical to the USA. Please don't assume her vet is "not so great". I agree that spaying is strongly preferred. Cultural differences need to be accounted for, however.

She said she will speak to her vet about spaying. Consider that progress
I forgot about her thing saying the Philippines I really need to look at the location every time before I post a reply
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Like I said before, it was my observation base on my personal experience with our pets (and we've had a lot), our female dogs who've given birth to puppies a couple of times passed away naturally compared to some of the females who never gave birth and they developed tumors and cancers. Ofcourse we also had female dog, never gave birth and didnt develop any medical condition. As for spaying, truth be told, I dont recall ever hearing my sister mention the vet suggest that.. Ive heard her talk about vet suggeting nuetering for the male dogs so that they don't go "crazy" when the females are in heat. (Please refer to my earlier post where I wrote most of the our pets are owned by my sister)

Of all the puppies/ dogs we had, prior to Mojo and now with Mollie and Mollyeet, Ive only really owned 2 female dogs. Japanese- Spitz mix named Smoochie who got pregnant twice and died of old age, and Chelsea, a chiuaua-terrier mix, who we didnt mate with any dog but died relatively earlier than Moochie bec. she developed some sort of cancer in her uterus. After Chelsea died, I stopped being emotionally invested in our puppies bec. i felt really sad and i was young. Id help with my sister with the our pets, I play with them but never really "owned" any or played favorite to any of them.

I know what its like to have a pet die on me specially one who had a medical condition and we're doing everything to make her better. I've only started "owning" a pet again... Mojo.. with Mollie and Mollyeet. I do not want to go through the sadness of losing any of our puppies/dogs therefore I will not risk their health or life.

As for Mollyeet, I believe her cycle's about to end and therefore mating her is moot.
I will talk to our vet about spaying and find out his opinion on this matter.
I am happy to hear you are going to discuss this with your vet for Mollyeet. After reading your post, I also see that I am comparing the health benefits of spayed females to unspayed females and I think your observations are based primarily on the comparison of unspayed females long term and whether they have produced litters. See, I said I was confused.. but I see what you're saying now, and understand how you would have made those observations.
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I wouldn't recommend breeding her so early, from anything I've educated myself on there are a few things to think about.
1. is she too small
2. do I want to breed my pet and risk her dying during the process just because I want to breed her
3. is she emotionally and physically ready to be bred and successfully raise a litter

Now I have read over the other responses and your answer, I have to wonder why are you even asking.
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I wouldn't recommend breeding her so early, from anything I've educated myself on there are a few things to think about.
1. is she too small
2. do I want to breed my pet and risk her dying during the process just because I want to breed her
3. is she emotionally and physically ready to be bred and successfully raise a litter

Now I have read over the other responses and your answer, I have to wonder why are you even asking.
My original question was ONLY whether I should mate my Yorkshire Terrier with a Bewier Yorkshire Terrier. Truth be told, I only wanted to know what Yorkshire Terrier owners opinion about that combination. Is it taboo or acceptable? An incidental minor concern is the registry of Yorkie-Bewier puppies which, after a lot of castigations, I eventually got an anwer to.

I actually NEVER asked help in deciding whether or not I should BREED my Yorkshire Terrier. And despite my succeeding posts that indicated that I may not and actually no longer will go through with it, Im still being told why I should NOT breed my yorkie. I am a newbie at Yorkshiretalk forum and Mojo is my first yorkie.. but it doesnt mean Im a new dog owner or that I have no experience with dogs. Initially, it feels flattering to see so many people reacting to my post and even tho most comments are harsh and have a tendency to sound belittling, some were kind and encouraging.

I think had I read more extensively at other posts on this forum, then I probably would have realized early on that there is an anti-breeding sentiment among most members.. regardless wheter the yorkie's small or regular size. This actually makes me wonder if all your yorkies comes from shelters or are rescues. I just saw on tv Dog Whisperer's episode where they "raided" a Puppy mill. Watching that episode was truly heart wrenching and in a way made me understand, a little, such strong passion to discourage breeding.
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Ok, lets be clear here just for claritys sake..."we", the majority of YTer's are against UNETHICAL BREEDING, puppy mills and brokers...not responsible breeders.

Please read the following link:
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It's not that people are against breeding, but with Yorkies as with any toy breed there are a lot of factors that come into play that you need to educate yourself on.
There is a section on the forums where you can ask questions of breeders that may be able to help.
Many folks on here got their first Yorkie from what they later found to be an unethical or back yard breeder and have since taken it upon themselves to become more educated.
My personal mentality is, leave it to the experts. We like to know that people are breeding their dogs and raising them in a caring and healthy breeding facility. There are too many dogs cross bred with other breeds for the cute effect without consideration for the genetics and health issues you may incur.
Yes you will get bashed and beaten by the steadfast and aggressive folks on here.
We are protective of the breed and like to hope that other Yorkie owners are as in love and care for their dogs as we do our own.
So when you say you wanna cross breed a Yorkie with a Biewer, you're gonna get some stones chucked at ya.
Do your research before breeding your yorkie as I said have a gander under the breeder section.
One thing I do know is you can't register cross breeds basically because they are a mutt, whether you dress it up with hybrid, designer dog or give it a cute name like chorkie morkie or horkie.
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It's not that people are against breeding, but with Yorkies as with any toy breed there are a lot of factors that come into play that you need to educate yourself on.
There is a section on the forums where you can ask questions of breeders that may be able to help.
Many folks on here got their first Yorkie from what they later found to be an unethical or back yard breeder and have since taken it upon themselves to become more educated.
My personal mentality is, leave it to the experts. We like to know that people are breeding their dogs and raising them in a caring and healthy breeding facility. There are too many dogs cross bred with other breeds for the cute effect without consideration for the genetics and health issues you may incur.
Yes you will get bashed and beaten by the steadfast and aggressive folks on here.
We are protective of the breed and like to hope that other Yorkie owners are as in love and care for their dogs as we do our own.
So when you say you wanna cross breed a Yorkie with a Biewer, you're gonna get some stones chucked at ya.
Do your research before breeding your yorkie as I said have a gander under the breeder section.
One thing I do know is you can't register cross breeds basically because they are a mutt, whether you dress it up with hybrid, designer dog or give it a cute name like chorkie morkie or horkie.
And it is actually under that principle of "doing my research before breeding my yorkie" that gave me the nerve to post on Yorkietalk forum. Its just sad that I got more bashing and beating than answers.
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And it is actually under that principle of "doing my research before breeding my yorkie" that gave me the nerve to post on Yorkietalk forum. Its just sad that I got more bashing and beating than answers.
so true. there is a difference between passion and extremism, some don't understand that.
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And it is actually under that principle of "doing my research before breeding my yorkie" that gave me the nerve to post on Yorkietalk forum. Its just sad that I got more bashing and beating than answers.
You have really taken a beating and for that, I apologize. Though people here tend to be passionate, some need to learn to be a little softer in getting their point across so the new members don't get frustrated and leave. That would accomplish nothing in the long run.

I commend you for having the thicker skin and courage to hang around and hope to see you interacting more around here. Perhaps your research will lead you in a new direction where you do become a reputable breeder someday. Or maybe your research will lead you to get involved in rescue. Either one, if done under the right circumstances, can be extremely rewarding. There are some days I miss rescue. My checkbook doesn't, but my heart does.

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I tried to give you an honest view of how a biewer bred to a yorkie is viewed in the yorkie world and biewer world. Your not always going to hear what you want to hear on a breeding thread people get pretty passionate on the subject. And this is a yorkie forum and I did tell you that breeding a biewer to a yorkie isnt viewed well in the yorkie world in fact the pups are considered mixed breed and if youve seen any mixed breed breeding threads then you would understand.
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And it is actually under that principle of "doing my research before breeding my yorkie" that gave me the nerve to post on Yorkietalk forum. Its just sad that I got more bashing and beating than answers.
I commend you for coming here and asking questions first. I can tell by your recent posts that you have taken the information to heart and plan to discuss it all with your vet and you stated you will not do anything that will put your girl's health in jeopardy. I hope you stick around here and share more about your Yorkies.
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I commend you for coming here and asking questions first. I can tell by your recent posts that you have taken the information to heart and plan to discuss it all with your vet and you stated you will not do anything that will put your girl's health in jeopardy. I hope you stick around here and share more about your Yorkies.
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Answering your original question. No, I would not.
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My original question was ONLY whether I should mate my Yorkshire Terrier with a Bewier Yorkshire Terrier. Truth be told, I only wanted to know what Yorkshire Terrier owners opinion about that combination. Is it taboo or acceptable? An incidental minor concern is the registry of Yorkie-Bewier puppies which, after a lot of castigations, I eventually got an anwer to.

I actually NEVER asked help in deciding whether or not I should BREED my Yorkshire Terrier. And despite my succeeding posts that indicated that I may not and actually no longer will go through with it, Im still being told why I should NOT breed my yorkie. I am a newbie at Yorkshiretalk forum and Mojo is my first yorkie.. but it doesnt mean Im a new dog owner or that I have no experience with dogs. Initially, it feels flattering to see so many people reacting to my post and even tho most comments are harsh and have a tendency to sound belittling, some were kind and encouraging.

I think had I read more extensively at other posts on this forum, then I probably would have realized early on that there is an anti-breeding sentiment among most members.. regardless wheter the yorkie's small or regular size. This actually makes me wonder if all your yorkies comes from shelters or are rescues. I just saw on tv Dog Whisperer's episode where they "raided" a Puppy mill. Watching that episode was truly heart wrenching and in a way made me understand, a little, such strong passion to discourage breeding.
We are not anti breeding we are anti bad breeding there is a very big difference. Good breeders breed to better the breed not just to do it or to make money like most bad breeders do.
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so true. there is a difference between passion and extremism, some don't understand that.
And sometimes some people can't tell which is which when it's typed out words.........
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