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carmen in nj · 03-21-2012, 07:30 PM

while we are in the "reputable" subject, I heard of a breeder that bred two merles and got a double merle and that product won best of BREED at Wesmister this year, so it depends on every persons opinion of what reputable means to their lines... so I take "REPUTABLE" with a grain of salt lately, when it comes to dog breeding...
in order to breed small or tiny you must breed small risking the life of the dam, which in my opinion is as bad as breeding two merles..
just my humble opinion on the subject of Reputable breeders.. I rather call myself an experience HOnesT breeder..
hugs,

a brief explanation of BLue merle.. (wikipedia)
Merle is actually a heterozygote of an incompletely dominant gene.[7] If two such dogs are mated, on the average one quarter of the puppies will be "double merles", which is the common term for dogs homozygous for merle,[8] and a high percentage of these double merle puppies could have eye defects and/or be deaf. Knowledgeable breeders who want to produce merle puppies mate a merle with a non-merle dog; roughly half the puppies will be merles without the risk of vision or hearing defects associated with double merle dogs.[9]
In January 2006 scientists at Texas A&M University announced the discovery of a mobile genetic unit called a retrotransposon, responsible for the merle mutation in dogs.

scrapindee · 03-21-2012, 07:34 PM

PLEASE neuter the male and spay the female. You got the answers from everyone and said you wanted to validate your feelings. Now please do the right thing for both your pets.

yorkietalkjilly · 03-21-2012, 07:46 PM

To me, a reputable breeder is one that breeds to improve the breed and the health of the dog per AKC standards for the Yorkie, testing breeding stock for the desired health certifications.

bondai · 03-21-2012, 08:25 PM

I don't see any reason to neuter the male. He could be bred to a larger breed if someone wanted some mixed breed puppies, say a poodle. Just a thought.

Ringo1 · 03-22-2012, 05:44 AM

The male should be neutered. Though I'm sure he's adorable - he's way over the breed standard.

The last thing we need are more mixed-breed puppies being brought into this world only to end up in shelters. Especially when the folks doing the breeding have no idea what they are doing and what they will be producing.

Lovetodream88 · 03-22-2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bondai

I don't see any reason to neuter the male. He could be bred to a larger breed if someone wanted some mixed breed puppies, say a poodle. Just a thought.

No one should breed mixed breed dogs there are many to many in shelters for that.

megansmomma · 03-22-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bondai

I don't see any reason to neuter the male. He could be bred to a larger breed if someone wanted some mixed breed puppies, say a poodle. Just a thought.

Please see the below posts for the answer to the above.

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

To me, a reputable breeder is one that breeds to improve the breed and the health of the dog per AKC standards for the Yorkie, testing breeding stock for the desired health certifications.

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

No one should breed mixed breed dogs there are many to many in shelters for that.

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Originally Posted by Ringo1

The male should be neutered. Though I'm sure he's adorable - he's way over the breed standard.

The last thing we need are more mixed-breed puppies being brought into this world only to end up in shelters. Especially when the folks doing the breeding have no idea what they are doing and what they will be producing.

chachi · 03-22-2012, 06:50 AM

Making mixed dogs isnt a very swift idea I hope you dont listen to the poster that suggested it

lovespandp · 03-22-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bondai

I don't see any reason to neuter the male. He could be bred to a larger breed if someone wanted some mixed breed puppies, say a poodle. Just a thought.

Why would you say this?

HORRIBLE ADVICE

Lil Sis · 03-22-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

Just throwing this out there- my coworker recently lost her poodle mix 5 lb because her new LIve in boyfriend's dog mounted her- He is like a 20 shep mix. Well she did get pregnant and she ended up passing away! The babies were dead in her for weeks- my co worker didnt take her into the vet like I told her-

That story goes way more in detail than what the Op was asking but it goes to show spay and neuter your animals.. unless you are a reputable breeder- Dont try to breed :0)

omg... that is so sad that poor baby!!!

to the op... I understand if you are not familiar with breeding and such the "thought" is there. I know you did the right thing to ask and gained a lot of great info!!

bondai · 03-22-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

Making mixed dogs isnt a very swift idea I hope you dont listen to the poster that suggested it

How many people on this forum have a mixed breed dog? I think it's a great idea for some one wanting to have a litter of puppies there is no reason the dogs can't be mixed breed. There are far many more mixed breed dogs in this country than purebred ones.

bondai · 03-22-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

Why would you say this?

HORRIBLE ADVICE

Why? There is nothing wrong with mixed breed puppies, the demand is actually very high for certain puppies. Yorkie Poo's have a very large following. What's the big deal?

lovespandp · 03-22-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bondai

How many people on this forum have a mixed breed dog? I think it's a great idea for some one wanting to have a litter of puppies there is no reason the dogs can't be mixed breed. There are far many more mixed breed dogs in this country than purebred ones.

Are you insane? You do not breed ANY dog because you “want to have puppies!!!! What is wrong with you? This is the reason we have millions of dogs on the streets with no homes and in shelters!

bondai · 03-22-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringo1

The male should be neutered. Though I'm sure he's adorable - he's way over the breed standard.

The last thing we need are more mixed-breed puppies being brought into this world only to end up in shelters. Especially when the folks doing the breeding have no idea what they are doing and what they will be producing.

Oh please, dogs have been having puppies for centuries with no help from man, or woman.

Is breeding a 11lb male with a 4lb female a No-No??-tennessebirddogs.jpg

bondai · 03-22-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

Are you insane? You do not breed ANY dog because you “want to have puppies!!!! What is wrong with you? This is the reason we have millions of dogs on the streets with no homes and in shelters!

Don't call me names, it is beneath you. If someone has families lined up to take the pups I see no reason for not having a litter. I am not talking about having puppies just for the sake of having them.

03-21-2012, 07:30 PM	#31
carmen in nj Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hopatcong, NJ, USA Posts: 4,615 Blog Entries: 74	while we are in the "reputable" subject, I heard of a breeder that bred two merles and got a double merle and that product won best of BREED at Wesmister this year, so it depends on every persons opinion of what reputable means to their lines... so I take "REPUTABLE" with a grain of salt lately, when it comes to dog breeding... in order to breed small or tiny you must breed small risking the life of the dam, which in my opinion is as bad as breeding two merles.. just my humble opinion on the subject of Reputable breeders.. I rather call myself an experience HOnesT breeder.. hugs, a brief explanation of BLue merle.. (wikipedia) Merle is actually a heterozygote of an incompletely dominant gene.[7] If two such dogs are mated, on the average one quarter of the puppies will be "double merles", which is the common term for dogs homozygous for merle,[8] and a high percentage of these double merle puppies could have eye defects and/or be deaf. Knowledgeable breeders who want to produce merle puppies mate a merle with a non-merle dog; roughly half the puppies will be merles without the risk of vision or hearing defects associated with double merle dogs.[9] In January 2006 scientists at Texas A&M University announced the discovery of a mobile genetic unit called a retrotransposon, responsible for the merle mutation in dogs. __________________ My Etsy shop is OPEN... Carmen in nj

03-21-2012, 07:34 PM	#32
scrapindee Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redlands Posts: 4,842 Blog Entries: 2	PLEASE neuter the male and spay the female. You got the answers from everyone and said you wanted to validate your feelings. Now please do the right thing for both your pets. __________________ Scrapindee--Team Furry & the Biewers www.houseofwags.com

03-21-2012, 07:46 PM	#33
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	To me, a reputable breeder is one that breeds to improve the breed and the health of the dog per AKC standards for the Yorkie, testing breeding stock for the desired health certifications. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis Last edited by yorkietalkjilly; 03-21-2012 at 07:47 PM.

03-22-2012, 05:44 AM	#35
Ringo1 Ringo (1) and Lucy too! Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On the Edge of Glory Posts: 3,447	The male should be neutered. Though I'm sure he's adorable - he's way over the breed standard. The last thing we need are more mixed-breed puppies being brought into this world only to end up in shelters. Especially when the folks doing the breeding have no idea what they are doing and what they will be producing. __________________ Mommy to Lucy, Ringo, and Matthew

03-22-2012, 06:50 AM	#38
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Making mixed dogs isnt a very swift idea I hope you dont listen to the poster that suggested it __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

03-21-2012, 08:25 PM	#34
bondai No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Phoenix Posts: 290	I don't see any reason to neuter the male. He could be bred to a larger breed if someone wanted some mixed breed puppies, say a poodle. Just a thought.