I'm getting a mixed breed... AND IM PROUD!!

[capt_noonie]

A family from up north drove 7 hrs one way to meet Chloe and smokey. Just to meet them, they don't know if they are going to get them. If you try hard enough you can find a good match in rescues. Most people don't really try, excuse after excuse. Buying a puppy from this type of breeder tells them people approve of what they do and they will continue to do so. That leaves one less home for a dog that could be saved.

So how much did the pup cost anyway? More than $300 I would say is a small fortune or a mutt.

[SophieandZiggy]

People could choose to not buy any purebred dogs or mixes at all, and only adopt rescues. What would the breeder think then? Maybe we could slow down ALL breeders.

[maci_mace]

a GREAT REPUTABLE REGISTERED [AKC, UKC, Can.KC] BREEDER does not breed a ton of litters a year. So even when picking a purebred, registered puppy you can't trust all the breeders with papers either... it's all about doing you're homework.

I'd consider a lady with a couple AKC dogs who produces 3-4 litters a year as a BYB.

Maci's breeder only has 1 or 2 litters a year yet she has 5-6 dogs capable of having puppies. Most years she skips breeding season ALL TOGETHER.
She chooses not to overbred. Those are the people we should support. People who can skip a whole year or two of breeding because they don't want to over populate. Her dogs are also only sold to show homes if they are show quality. And even co-owned until pointed or titled.

[Furbaby Friend]

I wanted to stay out of the traditional mixed breed argument, but of course I can't keep my big mouth shut

I think it is unfair to always berate people who post about getting mixes about how they didn't go to the shelter or should go to the shelter. Very few, if any, people do that when someone posts about wanting a purebred Yorkie. It is all oh YTCA this and that, breeder this and that. Yet, there are plenty of purebreds in shelters too. If you are going to push shelter, it should be equally done.

I am happy for her new baby and her new addition. I know how frustrating it is searching for a mixed baby. For those of you who think it is easy to get a rescue dog, you have another thing coming. If it isn't from a shelter (in which puppies are few and far between at least in my area), the rescues are actually VERY picky and have requirements that some just cannot meet. Therefore, not everyone can get a pup from a rescue.

I tried. Either they have restrictions on how far they will travel for a home visit and you can't adopt without a home visit (hell I even offered to pay travel expenses and let them stay at my home and I was STILL turned away) or you can't have children or you can't have cats or you can't have *insert another reason here.* I fell short again and again and only THEN turned to looking for a breeder.

Also, rescue dogs can come with health issues (since a lot of them come from the mills and poor lines that we all warn against). I personally would prefer a dog that is healthy and those chances are significantly lowered if you don't know the background at all.

In addition, rescues can come with emotional issues besides health problems. Some people are not equipped to deal with that. If they can't handle it, the dog will just end up right back where it started. If they know that about themselves, it is good that they chose not to get a shelter dog. Shelter/rescue does not work for everyone.

So, yes, I went with a breeder. A breeder I love and adore. Who loves and adores Rylie and still checks in on us. I'd recommend her in a heartbeat. She loves her animals and produces healthy lines. She didn't charge me out the nose. She wasn't in it for only profit. She added to the happiness of my family in ways that I cannot even describe.

I did it, and I would do it again. However, I did A LOT of homework. Just like anyone else looking for a breeder. You can't just buy from whoever willy-nilly, purebred OR mix, and you have to be especially careful in researching and screening with a mix, I'll give you that. Rylie came from practically across the country because I DID my research and did not find ANY breeders in my area that were up to my standards. Tons of mills, pet stores, and no good sorts that I was not comfortable with.

Anyway, point is: she did what she did. I trust she did her homework. If she did not, you can always say "I told you so" later.

For now, lets just be happy for her.

[KendraE]

Guess what? We went the 3 hour drive today to see our new baby in person and it's a dang Shame I won't post his pics.... He is beautiful!!! And we love him..... But it's ok if Yt doesnt, because we do... You are missing out! Mixed breed and all.... He's an absolute doll... And my heart tells me he is the right choice. Period.

[maci_mace]

Kendra, i think you missed the part about the fact we are EXCITED about your new member. but we all had our own opinions about the breeder and the way you titled the thread. that was it. you know it's YT and you know debates get started easily over these things, but you have to have thick skin. i've been bashed on my pitbull thread before and i'm still on there and i get along with everyone just fine whether we have disagreed before or not.

we would ALL love to see your li'l man, and love on him with comments and praise. i think all in all we are glad YOU got him and not someone else who wouldn't love him forever even past his puppy stages.

[ladyjane]

Of course you will post pictures.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by KendraE

Guess what? We went the 3 hour drive today to see our new baby in person and it's a dang Shame I won't post his pics.... He is beautiful!!! And we love him..... But it's ok if Yt doesnt, because we do... You are missing out! Mixed breed and all.... He's an absolute doll... And my heart tells me he is the right choice. Period.

See that was totally a flaunt. Youve totally missed the point we have been trying to make. I have followed your past threads and have been in support pf you. There is no reason why you couldnt have did a thread of pictures of your new pup and an anouncement and you wouldnt have received this flack. But when you title the thread {Im getting a mixed breed and Im proud and then follow it up by promoting the breeder as a good one people are going to speak up

[Donnainohio63]

Well I want to see pics. I do not care what anyone elses opinion is of you or your furbabies or how you got them. I love all breeds, mixed or not. cmon lets see the pics.

[PixieK83]

I am glad that you are getting a new pup! I have a Yorkiepoo and he is amazing.. he is the best pet Ive had and I have had purebred Yorkies before.

I want to see pics! Morkies are just so damn cute!!! Remind me of a little teddy bear!!!

I dont think you owe it to ANYONE here to tell them how much you paid, who the breeder is, why you like and picked the breeder, etc...
You went with your gut. You did what you felt was right and you are happy and I think that is all that matters.
As long as you can give little Jax a great, forever home I am happy for you!!

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Well, I'm no saint, but it seems like many of you are missing the point. The only reason I'm against breeders breeding mixes is because this country kills millions of dogs a year. Because people cannot predict what a mix will look like and how they will behave, they are more likely to go to the pound, and be killed. I can't believe that a dog lover wouldn't find this morally wrong. So how do you not add to the problem? You don't buy from a bad breeder, and one that isn't breeding for any other reason than to preserve and improve the breed. You find breeders who demand limited registration, you can't do that with a mixed breed, so those dogs are more likely to continue to add to the overpopulation problem, and you find someone who will always take the dog back and give it a home, no matter what. Rule of thumb, for every dog you buy, two will take its place, so when you buy from an unethical breeder, you are giving her a thumbs up and saying you approve of what she's doing. It doesn't matter how nice and wonderful your breeder is or how much you like her, she's adding to the problem of overpopulation of dogs. Do you all think it's right that we just breed whatever, and kill the ones that no one thinks are cute? As I said before, it's Kendra business what she buys, but like it or not, we are all role models, and her title is suggesting that you should be proud when you buy any dog from a bad breeder, so she’s encouraging others to do what she did, and this is what I find especially sad. This country is better than that, we should not be killing millions of dogs a year. So yes, some of us will speak up, and I hope with all my heart some of you will listen.

Well said Nancy!!

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by chachi

See that was totally a flaunt. Youve totally missed the point we have been trying to make. I have followed your past threads and have been in support pf you. There is no reason why you couldnt have did a thread of pictures of your new pup and an anouncement and you wouldnt have received this flack. But when you title the thread {Im getting a mixed breed and Im proud and then follow it up by promoting the breeder as a good one people are going to speak up

Kendra, You have missed the point!

[Smokey2011]

Originally Posted by KendraE

.....He needs someone to Love him....

To me, THIS was the point.

While the battle for regulation rages on for years, what's supposed to happen to the puppies, who all deserve loving homes ????

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Smokey2011

To me, THIS was the point.

While the battle for regulation rages on for years, what's supposed to happen to the puppies, who all deserve loving homes ????

Well I quess those puppies would go to a rescue where they would be responsibly adopted and the bad breeder would quit breeding because theres no money in it for her

[cheryl19]

Originally Posted by gemy

Kendra I thought your initial post of announcing a much loved and anticipated new pup was a bit "in your face" to the community here.

And in another subsequent early post "thanking those folks who bit their lips and kept their mouths shut"

I've yet to come across a post of anyone here belittling a member new or old for purchasing a cross-breed dog, aka a "mutt".

I believe that breeders be they purebred breeders, show breeders, mutt breeders, should be breeding healthy dogs, and do their utmost to insure this happens. That means to the best of your ability knowing the health problems in the lines you are breeding, doing all breed and if you are breeding "cross breeds" all the health tests on the breeding dam and sire and all the breed specific genetic and other tests available to help a breeder determine if there breeding pair is free of "x" y" or z".

Of course many, many of the aforementioned breeders do none of this. Show breeders are the most likely group to do those tests. The others are not in breeding for the betterment of the breed, what breed exactly is a mutt? Where are the breed standards for these "designer dogs". Nowhere to be found at all. Are Morkies bred to Morkies to improve and try to develop a "new breed" of dog" How many of those named designer breed dogs, just taking two "pure breds" and breeding them together willy nilly to get on the money bandwagon?

So who exactly did you support when you bought a designer dog? One who does everything possible to insure the health of the pups. Did the Parti Yorkie or Full Yorkie have at least a CHIC number, did the Maltese as well? What are the health concerns in each of their lines? Do you know? Does the breeder know?

I for one do not believe that this community belittles anyone for owing or loving a mixed breed dog, and I am saddened that you perceive it so.

Good luck and long love and enjoyment of your newest addition

Well said!