HELP!! I don't know nuthin about birthing no babies

[Donnainohio63]

I would be looking for a new vet asap. What kind of a vet tells a person it would be cool to mate a 6lb male with a 3 lb female? Not a vet that would ever work with one of my babies that is for sure. I hope you are taking the advice of all the people here and doing what will be best for your little girl and also finding a new vet. I would like to know what vet you went to so that I can call him and give him a piece of my mind.

[JosselleandLola]

Originally Posted by speleogirl37

Your vet told you it's ok to breed a 3lbs girl? And to do it because your male is cool? You need to find a new vet!!

I couldn't agree wIth you even more, IRRESPONSABLE VET AND IRRESPONSABLE MOM!!!!!

[JosselleandLola]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

A0003...read more please.

[gidget529]

Originally Posted by chachi

Dogs arent the same as humans and if you had been on here long enough and saw some of the tragedies we have seen from this tiny dogs giving birth maybe you would have a different perspective. That she is too tiny to have pups is one strike against her. That she bred to a dog 3 lbs bigger than her is a second strike. You may call it judgemental but I call it looking out for the dogs best interest and giving advice for whats going to be best for the dog. By the way a 7 lb child for an 85 lb person is normal. 7 lbs is an average baby weight. When I was 90 lbs I had a 12 lb baby now that is big

This is a little off topic, and my apologies, but I have to say.... 12 lb is HUGE!! You should never have to cook on a Mother's Day again in your life! (Actually, instead of "birth flowers" you should have gotten a "birth car"! )

[My lil friend]

Originally Posted by gidget529

This is a little off topic, and my apologies, but I have to say.... 12 lb is HUGE!! You should never have to cook on a Mother's Day again in your life! (Actually, instead of "birth flowers" you should have gotten a "birth car"! )

Having gone through the birth process 6 times. I think that a diamond would of been a good gift here. Unless the car is a BMW.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by gidget529

This is a little off topic, and my apologies, but I have to say.... 12 lb is HUGE!! You should never have to cook on a Mother's Day again in your life! (Actually, instead of "birth flowers" you should have gotten a "birth car"! )

I was 130 at delivery and the 8 pounder I just had about did me in!

Could barely carry him and was almost completely impompasitated the last 2 months, hips size (pelvis) matters most mine is now 26 it was 24 before him!

My 6 12 oz first child was super harsh almost had a cesarean with her, my next 5 lbs 15 oz (small to most average for my fam.) so ye the 8 pounder was a bit difficult.

Now imagine the human translation for the Yorkie pelvis ration, kind of equivalent to a 18-19" by my estimates and a 14# baby (low estimate and that's just one hm dogs have litters not always single births) considering the mother to child size ratios.


Edit Note:I'd like to know the vet's name so they might receive correspondence but hm I wonder what vet would say such in reality.

[Taryn0405]

Hmm...

If only that one button was added to the YT image selection. Think it would be appropriate for now..


With that being said, I've never had a baby. However, I'm 6'1 so given my higher weight I could brith a 20 pounder and still make it thru? That doesn't make much sense to me, and in fact sounds very painful. Humans have different options with birth, that include C-section, and drugs. And humans, since pregnant women are vocal, we know what's going on physically in birth. And with that being said, we also don't birth litters. Well, normally don't, unless you watch John and Kate Plue 8.

With pets, there's two options, natural and c-section. And given the small bodies and lack communcation, vets can only assume how the mom is doing. And if there is multiples, like most litters, those pups are draining all the nutrients from the Mom making her even more weak.


A small, tired, weak dog trying to give birth...Common sense should be going off...

[chachi]

Originally Posted by gidget529

This is a little off topic, and my apologies, but I have to say.... 12 lb is HUGE!! You should never have to cook on a Mother's Day again in your life! (Actually, instead of "birth flowers" you should have gotten a "birth car"! )

Yea he was big but I was 21 and had alot more energy and stamina than I do now. I remember being uncomfortable but not miserable and was shocked when I found out how big he was. Now I did have an epideral with him so that helped. My last child was only 6 lbs and I had to have c section with her so go figure.

[FoxxysMom]

I an glad the OP posted and I am also pleased to read all.of the tuff love posts. Not only did I see resolution here but I learned some things also. I never knew a 3 pound baby shouldn't breed. I couldn't do it myself just because at that size they would always be a baby to me but the responses taught me things that may help me to help someone else. I like that YT members tell you what's best and not what you want to hear
To the poster who is scared to ask questions afraid of mean answers, I'm that way on a different type board but sometimes the need to know outways a little tough love.
OP, your baby really needs you. Those puppies won't be 3 pounds like her. Don't risk it for money or cute factor or anything.

[MamaZiggy]

Originally Posted by A0003

I am 85 pounds and had a perfectly healthy 7lb baby girl totally 100% natural. Not one single drug. Should I have aborted my baby sicne I was so small? I loved this forum when I found it but WOW everybody is so Negitive about everything. I have several questions I would love to ask but I am scared to post anything about my puppy because all anyone wants to do is judge here it seems like. Vet bills will be expensive and times will be stressfull but if the vet said it was ok then I am sure that not one person passing judegment has a vet degree on here?? Just saying. I dont normally post on to much but this one caught me a little off guard. I know humans are different than dogs but like I said, my dr told me I could not deliver natural because I was really tiny too but 9 years later my daughter is a beautiful healthy little lady.

i usually dont get involved in these "heated" discussions, but i just wanted to say, i dont think the people who have commented on here have been rude. I Have Read Rude Posts On Here, before i joined that scared me!lol.. but i think in this thread, everyone has stated their opinions and advise in a civil manner.. i do hope that you see that and are able to freely post on here. there are really some great people on here, great advice

To the OP, i dont know anything about breeding so ill just say, I hope everything works out well for this little girl and you

[gracielove]

I have been reading this thread for several days now and have come to the conclusion that the person who started this is not being honest. I have lived a few decades now and have had many pets as well as a few vets that I have done business with and none of them would have even suggested that breeding an undersized female dog was OK.

Yet this person states that she knows at least 3 vets that have no problem with this situation. Not only that, she also says the vets have no concern that the dog has not grown since it was a puppy! Now the next mystery......a vet that does not want to do surgery because of the size of his hands? Really? Vets do surgery on ferrets and small kittens. If a vet could not spay a small dog he could not do any kind of surgery because surgery on any size dog requires intricate sewing work on small organs inside all kinds of animals.

I realize there are substandard people in all professions but I do not believe that this person has found all of these substandard vets.......at least not by accident. While I believe that a person might be irresponsible enough to breed an undersized dog that is where I get off in this fantasy. Now they want advice? I don't think so.

[yorkietalkjilly]

I'm just seeing this thread - missed the whole thing before today. Your female is fortunate to be alive if she really is as small as you say and the sire was the size purported though unless she had a C-section, I hate to think how horribly tough her delivery was. I had a little 3 pounder but I would never have let her deliver and risk her life. I surely hope that you have this tiny female spayed so she never has to be at risk of any pregnancy again.

[LittleLolasMom]

this post just screams irresponsible to me.