HELP!! I don't know nuthin about birthing no babies

[Imma-captivated]

I just wrote a loooooong post left my computer for about 10 min came back finished it off ... clicked to post it and voila' it says I'm not logged in.

My furgirl Chloe is almost 2 and I found out yesterday she is about 4 weeks pregnant.. the bad news is she typically weighs 2.9-3.2 lbs. The vet said she is expecting at least 3. I am currently in MI.. we usually leave for Fl for the winter in Oct.-Nov. but not this year.

My main concern is ... should I plan on a C-section? This is what was suggested to me by a vet in Fl. should she get pregnant. My daughter said she thought Chloe might have difficulty nursing if she doesn't give birth naturally.

I know she is small but the vet thought she would have only one.. and that she could be neutered after the C section.

We have the male Carlo.. he is just 1 year and weighs close to 6lbs. Please don't lecture me on being irresponsible.. I had never planned on breeding her due to her size until this particular vet said she thought they should have a baby because Chloe is so beautiful and Carlo is so cool.

At any rate the damage is done.. My main concern is for the health of Chloe. I would love to have one of their babies but I am now concerned if she will nurse if a C section is performed.

I have edited this considerably after spending so much time on the first post... please don't judge me.. I need sound advice.

[cheryl19]

The title of your post said it all. "HELP!! I don't know nuthin about birthing no babies" Have her spayed now and the male too. She is to small, she could die.

[horsnaround]

I would make sure you are at the vets office when it is time. That way you have emergency help if you need it. You just never know how it will go. The problem being she is so very small. That way she will have the best care possible and they can do what is necessary right away. Hope it all goes okay

[speleogirl37]

Your vet told you it's ok to breed a 3lbs girl? And to do it because your male is cool? You need to find a new vet!!

[chachi]

Your vet thought it was fine to breed a 3lb female to a 6 lb male. I would have her spayed and not risk her life

[Micah my love]

Originally Posted by speleogirl37

Your vet told you it's ok to breed a 3lbs girl? And to do it because your male is cool? You need to find a new vet!!

Amen sister !!!

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by cheryl19

The title of your post said it all. "HELP!! I don't know nuthin about birthing no babies" Have her spayed now and the male too. She is to small, she could die.

What happened, back in January you were going to have Chloe spayed?

Is the same vet that was apprehensive about spaying her because of his large hands/her small body, but this same vet thinks it's okay for this tiny girl to give birth?

[gidget529]

Originally Posted by Imma-captivated

I just wrote a loooooong post left my computer for about 10 min came back finished it off ... clicked to post it and voila' it says I'm not logged in.

My furgirl Chloe is almost 2 and I found out yesterday she is about 4 weeks pregnant.. the bad news is she typically weighs 2.9-3.2 lbs. The vet said she is expecting at least 3. I am currently in MI.. we usually leave for Fl for the winter in Oct.-Nov. but not this year.

My main concern is ... should I plan on a C-section? This is what was suggested to me by a vet in Fl. should she get pregnant. My daughter said she thought Chloe might have difficulty nursing if she doesn't give birth naturally.

I know she is small but the vet thought she would have only one.. and that she could be neutered after the C section.

We have the male Carlo.. he is just 1 year and weighs close to 6lbs. Please don't lecture me on being irresponsible.. I had never planned on breeding her due to her size until this particular vet said she thought they should have a baby because Chloe is so beautiful and Carlo is so cool.

At any rate the damage is done.. My main concern is for the health of Chloe. I would love to have one of their babies but I am now concerned if she will nurse if a C section is performed.

I have edited this considerably after spending so much time on the first post... please don't judge me.. I need sound advice.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to spare you a lecture. Someone needs to be the voice for this poor little pup.

She is far too small. She is what we would consider in human med (which I work in) a high risk pregnancy. There are ppl with certain illnesses that we would advise against pregnancy for the good of their own health and survival, and a dog the size of yours falls into that category. The strength of my words comes from the cases I have personally worked on where someone was advised not to get pregnant, did, and then it was a fight to try to keep them and their child alive.

I agree w the other posters who suggested getting her neutered ASAP. It is normally accepted protocol that dams under 5 lb should not be breed due to the risk. I also agree about finding another vet, if your vet really did advise you to impregnate this dog.

[Ellie May]

I'd have a reputable vet spay your girl that is more concerned about her welfare than cute puppies. Then I'd give the bill to the vet that said it was okay to breed her. If the new vet thinks it's unsafe to spay right now, then keep the number to the nearest ER nearby because it's likely you'll be needing it along with a couple grand for a c-section. If (God forbid) she doesn't make it or can't nurse (could have major issues with milk production - she is tiny), then you'll have to feed the pups, even through the night - every couple hours for weeks. I'd start planning now..

[gidget529]

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...ml#post3382954 You're really going to hate my post, but I have to ask. Why was this little girl not spayed when your vet recommended it in January of 2011?

I like Ellie May's advice about sending the bill to the vet that told you to impregnate her. Was this a different vet than the one who recommended spaying? If so, I would go back to the one who recommended spaying. Our little one lives are dependent on the skill of their medical practitioners.

[gemy]

I'm glad your main concern is Chloe, it is a definite possiblity that she won't want to nurse after (which is highly likely) needing a C section.

There are no NON Risk answers here. If it is dangerous to spay her when she is pregnant it is also very dangerous to let her go ahead with this pregnancy. What if she has more than one pup in there, multiple pups in the uterus>>> higher risk of insufficency within the womb >>> emergency C section or spay even before the pups come to term.

You, as you admit are not a breeder, nor I presume planned on breeding. There is just so much you need to know; need to be prepared for, for the health of your dam and potential pups that you through your own lack of experience and knowledge, place your Dam at a huge risk.

I truly believe based on what you have told us, that the best option is to spay your girl now.

[cj125]

Originally Posted by Imma-captivated

I just wrote a loooooong post left my computer for about 10 min came back finished it off ... clicked to post it and voila' it says I'm not logged in.

My furgirl Chloe is almost 2 and I found out yesterday she is about 4 weeks pregnant.. the bad news is she typically weighs 2.9-3.2 lbs. The vet said she is expecting at least 3. I am currently in MI.. we usually leave for Fl for the winter in Oct.-Nov. but not this year.

My main concern is ... should I plan on a C-section? This is what was suggested to me by a vet in Fl. should she get pregnant. My daughter said she thought Chloe might have difficulty nursing if she doesn't give birth naturally.

I know she is small but the vet thought she would have only one.. and that she could be neutered after the C section.

We have the male Carlo.. he is just 1 year and weighs close to 6lbs. Please don't lecture me on being irresponsible.. I had never planned on breeding her due to her size until this particular vet said she thought they should have a baby because Chloe is so beautiful and Carlo is so cool.

At any rate the damage is done.. My main concern is for the health of Chloe. I would love to have one of their babies but I am now concerned if she will nurse if a C section is performed.

I have edited this considerably after spending so much time on the first post... please don't judge me.. I need sound advice.

SOUND ADVICE = get your dogs fixed ASAP & find a new vet!!!

[Woogie Man]

Originally Posted by gemy

I'm glad your main concern is Chloe, it is a definite possiblity that she won't want to nurse after (which is highly likely) needing a C section.

There are no NON Risk answers here. If it is dangerous to spay her when she is pregnant it is also very dangerous to let her go ahead with this pregnancy. What if she has more than one pup in there, multiple pups in the uterus>>> higher risk of insufficency within the womb >>> emergency C section or spay even before the pups come to term.

You, as you admit are not a breeder, nor I presume planned on breeding. There is just so much you need to know; need to be prepared for, for the health of your dam and potential pups that you through your own lack of experience and knowledge, place your Dam at a huge risk.

I truly believe based on what you have told us, that the best option is to spay your girl now.

The risk of spaying her would primarily be a risk of anesthesia. Would be better (safer) to take that risk now rather than wait until she is in labor and under stress.

I would NEVER allow such a pregnancy to continue. Spaying is the best choice, and the sooner done the better. The risks to the babies and the Mom do not end with delivery. The OP's inexperience only compounds the risks that would be there for even the most experienced breeder.

[My lil friend]

I am not a breeder,but those that have responded that are have given you some soumd advice. If your vet thought that it was ok to breed such a tiny girl then first order of business is to find a different vet.

[jadabug]

I want to tell you the story about my Jada. She was a breed dog for a questionable breeder. The breeder went against the advice of our mutual vet and bred Jada when she was a little over 2 years old and about 4lbs 5ozs. She had a singleton and had to have an emergency c-section. Our vet convinced the breeder that she would always have problems as she was too small and she did agree to let him spay her while she was under anesthesia for the c-section.
The breeder then told our vet that since she wasn't able to breed her again to find her a good home. He immediately thought of me as he knew I would make a good mommy. The breeder rehomed Jada to me when her pup was only 6 weeks old. She is the love of our lives and a very spoiled little princess now and I cry when I think of what she went through.

Your little girl is smaller than Jada was and is carrying what your vet thinks is 3. I would be terrified of even thinking of taking that chance. And I don't know of a vet with any sense that would recommend a breeding based on a male being "cool" Poor little baby