HELP!! I don't know nuthin about birthing no babies

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by MikaTallulah

The vet must have been smoking crack to give you the advice to breed. Be prepared for a high vet.bills and a lot of lost sleep if you don't terminate the pregnancy. Good luck.

My Princess had a spay/abortion.

Find a reputable vet if you have difficulty I'd hope some YT members in the area would suggest their vets otherwise ask for referral and also contact the ytca for reputable small breed or Yorkie specialty vets in your area.

At this point pre-op blood work and normal pre-spay things are a mute point you are already in a crisis live or die situation...do the spay immediately.

[darnlora]

Good lord talk about being stupid and a irresponsible pet owner!! Geez!! Is this thread for real don't judge her?????? She is kidding right????? I better close before I go crazy with comments!!

[darnlora]

Sound advice???? Abort this Pregnancy or your PG girl will probably die!!

[mscat]

I am glad that you are making the right decision . It is best to do it this way then to further risk your female's life .

[FlDebra]

I think someone is pulling our leg! What vet would say he thinks it would be "cool" to breed a 6 pound male to a 3 pound female yorkie? I don't buy that! Then the folksy subject line, asking for a "whoopin'!" Give me a break. I think someone just wants to get the fur flying around here. If this is a real situation, then we need to pull the license of a vet and take away parental rights from this yorkie owner!

[darnlora]

I am sorry yesterday this post really, really upset me.... It still does, I could have however been a little more tactful in my scolding of poster for that I apologize... I guess the best advice I could give you is change vets immediately! Please do what is best for your sweet baby girl???? I guess we just hear so much the same story, no way should a female be bred when this small. Period. Won't you please do right by your Baby girl? Hugs

[KendraE]

Are you being serious??? OR is this thread just a HOAX to get us all upset???? WHO CARES if a vet tells you it will be OK???? Is your baby REALLY just 3 pounds????? Who in their right mind WOULD ALLOW a 3 pound baby to breed??? And with a SIX pound male??? Having yorkies, knowing they depend on ME for every decision in their little lives, I would totally re-think your allowing her to have these puppies!! IT COULD KILL HER!!!! Are these unborn pups worth more to you than their momma??? Argggg....nevermind...Ill shut up now

[Teresa Ford]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I think someone is pulling our leg! What vet would say he thinks it would be "cool" to breed a 6 pound male to a 3 pound female yorkie? I don't buy that! Then the folksy subject line, asking for a "whoopin'!" Give me a break. I think someone just wants to get the fur flying around here. If this is a real situation, then we need to pull the license of a vet and take away parental rights from this yorkie owner!

It is absolutely possible. I do hope it is a fake situation ! If one wants a flurry of urgent advice just post something that deliberately thumbs it's nose at responsible pet care.
Many of us on YT, would give up Vacations that are not doggie friendly, budget hamburger for us and the best food for them. We would cut our own hair and take them to the groomers. Skip eating out because our Vet visits were a bit more than expected. I could go on...... So breeding a tiny 3 pound girl is just......unthinkable.

[Taryn0405]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

My Princess had a spay/abortion.

Find a reputable vet if you have difficulty I'd hope some YT members in the area would suggest their vets otherwise ask for referral and also contact the ytca for reputable small breed or Yorkie specialty vets in your area.

At this point pre-op blood work and normal pre-spay things are a mute point you are already in a crisis live or die situation...do the spay immediately.

I don't know where you are in Michigan, or what vet for that matter would tell you to breed a dog sinply because it's "cool". But after many vet tries, I have decided on Shelby Vet.
Crystal, aka Ellie May suggested some vets to me that I didn't get a chance to try, but are on my list if I ever wanted to keep my options open.

Good luck. And I agree with previous post, is this too deja vu?

[A0003]

I am 85 pounds and had a perfectly healthy 7lb baby girl totally 100% natural. Not one single drug. Should I have aborted my baby sicne I was so small? I loved this forum when I found it but WOW everybody is so Negitive about everything. I have several questions I would love to ask but I am scared to post anything about my puppy because all anyone wants to do is judge here it seems like. Vet bills will be expensive and times will be stressfull but if the vet said it was ok then I am sure that not one person passing judegment has a vet degree on here?? Just saying. I dont normally post on to much but this one caught me a little off guard. I know humans are different than dogs but like I said, my dr told me I could not deliver natural because I was really tiny too but 9 years later my daughter is a beautiful healthy little lady.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by A0003

I am 85 pounds and had a perfectly healthy 7lb baby girl totally 100% natural. Not one single drug. Should I have aborted my baby sicne I was so small? I loved this forum when I found it but WOW everybody is so Negitive about everything. I have several questions I would love to ask but I am scared to post anything about my puppy because all anyone wants to do is judge here it seems like. Vet bills will be expensive and times will be stressfull but if the vet said it was ok then I am sure that not one person passing judegment has a vet degree on here?? Just saying. I dont normally post on to much but this one caught me a little off guard. I know humans are different than dogs but like I said, my dr told me I could not deliver natural because I was really tiny too but 9 years later my daughter is a beautiful healthy little lady.

Dogs arent the same as humans and if you had been on here long enough and saw some of the tragedies we have seen from this tiny dogs giving birth maybe you would have a different perspective. That she is too tiny to have pups is one strike against her. That she bred to a dog 3 lbs bigger than her is a second strike. You may call it judgemental but I call it looking out for the dogs best interest and giving advice for whats going to be best for the dog. By the way a 7 lb child for an 85 lb person is normal. 7 lbs is an average baby weight. When I was 90 lbs I had a 12 lb baby now that is big

[gidget529]

Originally Posted by A0003

I am 85 pounds and had a perfectly healthy 7lb baby girl totally 100% natural. Not one single drug. Should I have aborted my baby sicne I was so small? I loved this forum when I found it but WOW everybody is so Negitive about everything. I have several questions I would love to ask but I am scared to post anything about my puppy because all anyone wants to do is judge here it seems like. Vet bills will be expensive and times will be stressfull but if the vet said it was ok then I am sure that not one person passing judegment has a vet degree on here?? Just saying. I dont normally post on to much but this one caught me a little off guard. I know humans are different than dogs but like I said, my dr told me I could not deliver natural because I was really tiny too but 9 years later my daughter is a beautiful healthy little lady.

You are very lucky you had a positive outcome when you went against medical advice. Just bc you had a positive outcome does not mean all will - that is why the advice was given to you not to try childbirth.

I do not personally know all factors that were considered when giving you that advice; however, I have worked in the medical field for years, have education and professional licensures in it. I have personally worked on young women who went against medical advice and got pregnant when it was not advised due to higher risks associated w certain medical conditions. Their outcomes were not positive. It still haunts me to this day the look of fear on their faces as they realized their decision to go against medical advice was going to cost them their lives. We all make bad decisions at times. It was hard to watch a beautiful, vibrant, young person pay that large a price for theirs.

Please do not encourage others to fly in the face of medical advice. I am glad you are one of the few who is alive and well, as well as your child. Not all are so fortunate.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by A0003

I am 85 pounds and had a perfectly healthy 7lb baby girl totally 100% natural. Not one single drug. Should I have aborted my baby sicne I was so small? I loved this forum when I found it but WOW everybody is so Negitive about everything. I have several questions I would love to ask but I am scared to post anything about my puppy because all anyone wants to do is judge here it seems like. Vet bills will be expensive and times will be stressfull but if the vet said it was ok then I am sure that not one person passing judegment has a vet degree on here?? Just saying. I dont normally post on to much but this one caught me a little off guard. I know humans are different than dogs but like I said, my dr told me I could not deliver natural because I was really tiny too but 9 years later my daughter is a beautiful healthy little lady.

I'm very glad that things worked out well for you. Unfortunately, in my end of the delivery room I have seen far too many infants seriously injured, or killed, when a parent refuses to follow medical advice. Presumably, you made your
choice after careful consideration of the risks and benefits. A dog, however, is not asked if they consider the risks acceptable. They are not included in the decision of whether its ok to risk a c-section or a stuck pup, develop eclampsia or any of the other risks associated with breeding. They are dependent upon us to provide appropriate care for them.

Whelping is an under-studied area in veterinary training. Unless the vet is a reproductive specialist, the odds of them knowing the ins and outs of the risks of breeding such a tiny female to a male twice her size may allude them. Just
in general, I find it odd that ANY vet would say that breeding is "cool" no
matter what the size of the dam and sire. Most vets I've had the pleasure of
Working with say quite the opposite.

[concretegurl]

A0003...read more please.

[BabyGirl Rosie]

Originally Posted by A0003

I am 85 pounds and had a perfectly healthy 7lb baby girl totally 100% natural. Not one single drug. Should I have aborted my baby sicne I was so small? I loved this forum when I found it but WOW everybody is so Negitive about everything. I have several questions I would love to ask but I am scared to post anything about my puppy because all anyone wants to do is judge here it seems like. Vet bills will be expensive and times will be stressfull but if the vet said it was ok then I am sure that not one person passing judegment has a vet degree on here?? Just saying. I dont normally post on to much but this one caught me a little off guard. I know humans are different than dogs but like I said, my dr told me I could not deliver natural because I was really tiny too but 9 years later my daughter is a beautiful healthy little lady.

Well, here is the opposite effect. I weigh a lot more than 85 pounds and my son was 9 lb. However, I was unable to have him and ended up with a c-section. So I don't think that is a good argument on this issue.

I also hope that you don't think everything is negative on here because it is not. We don't intend on being negative. Instead we are trying to make sure that they understand the risks involved. When you are "talking" on a forum things can be taken in the wrong way.

Many of us are surprised that the vet said this was ok because it contradicts what the majority of us have heard from our own vets. We don't have vet degrees per say but I know many many of the posters have years and years of experience with Yorkies. I think the main thing they try to do is educate the individual so they may do what is best for the pup.