lost my litter 0f 5

[mallky]

I have 4 yorkies all related. Mom and three children two females and a male(neutered) Since mom is already 10 years old and the girls 5, I had one of them artificially inseminated by a known breeder. she was well, had 5 puppies. First died first day, two on day two, third after 5 days and was left with a female that mom seemed very atached to. Realized she was not sucking much from mom and started feeding her for 2 weeks, all was well except mom was licking her tail, was raw, took to the vet and gave her antibiotics. I was scheduled to leave on vacation and my cousing conitnued feeding every three hours but after the third week seemed weak and not eating well. Emergency vet said she was dehydrated and was hydrocephalous. Puppy died two days later. I was nt here don't believe malformation, what could have happened? Is my girl too old to have puppies at 5 years old? I want to have some puppies because they're getting old. Should I have the other one get pregnant? Is she too old at 5 years old (first pregnancy) Could this have been the cause, her age? thanks, please answer soon.

[DvlshAngel985]

I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm not a breeder, and will never attempt to be one, but I have read on this forum from very knowledgeable breeders that you don't try a first pregnancy at 5 years old. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss. Is is possible for you to contact your pups breeder and get another puppy from their lines?

[BonBon]

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of the litter.

Yes, 5 years is too old.

The free puppy you're looking for on your other thread - are you wanting to breed it also? Or are you just wanting to have a puppy in the house?

[Dolcesmama_xoxo]

Also, I am not a breeder so I am not sure, but I agree with the above post. I have read that breeding should start at no earlier than 2 yrs old but have read that most do start around 2 yrs or around the 3rd or 4th heat cycle. Did you do a full physical exam on the mom before getting her pregnant? Do you know if she was healthy enough to carry babies to begin with? I don't know about you, but if I had a sick mom and puppy that wasn't eating on its own I would have postponed my vacation. I don't know what you were going for, but if it was just a leisure vacaction I would have postponed it to take care of my babies. As a breeder, you need to be there for the mom and puppies throughout not only the pregnancy, but the first 6 to 8 weeks of their lives to help them develop and make sure mom is being a good mom, to make sure puppies are healthy and eating right, and if any are sick, to help them either get better or if its too late, to put them out of their pain. I don't know if it was her age or not. But I don't recommend getting another one of your 5yr old girls pregnant artificially. If you want a puppy badly, there are a LOT of breeders around the world that have litters all the time that you could adopt from. That way you don't have to deal with all the heartbreak of losses of the puppies/mothers again. I wouldn't want to lose another one of my girls from giving birth especially not so soon after you just lost one.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm not a breeder, and will never attempt to be one, but I have read on this forum from very knowledgeable breeders that you don't try a first pregnancy at 5 years old. Again, I'm so sorry for your loss. Is is possible for you to contact your pups breeder and get another puppy from their lines?

I agree with you, except for I wouldn't contact the breeder, I would question any breeder who would artificially inseminate a 5 year old female who hadn’t given birth before. Your 5 year olds still have lots of life in them, yorkies live longer than many breeds and can live to be 15 years old.

[Lorraine]

When the time comes, buy another puppy as a pet and enjoy it as a pet.
The heartbreak in breeding is great and it is much cheaper and easier to just go buy another pet one from a reputable breeder.
No, I would not breed your 5 year old again. Would you really consider putting her through all this at her age?

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I agree with you, except for I wouldn't contact the breeder, I would question any breeder who would artificially inseminate a 5 year old female who hadn’t given birth before. Your 5 year olds still have lots of life in them, yorkies live longer than many breeds and can live to be 15 years old.

True. I didn't know the breeder that inseminated the dogs was the same breeder of her older dogs. I would look elsewhere too.

[Mardelin]

As a exhibitor/breeder I would never breed a girl for the first time after the age of 3 and never breed a girl at all after the age of 5. After the age of 5 there are more chances for things to go wrong; genetically with the pups as well as for the dam.

Your girls are still young....too young to think of replacing them.....spay them and neuter your male.......

[Dolcesmama_xoxo]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

As a exhibitor/breeder I would never breed a girl for the first time after the age of 3 and never breed a girl at all after the age of 5. After the age of 5 there are more chances for things to go wrong; genetically with the pups as well as for the dam.

Your girls are still young....too young to think of replacing them.....spay them and neuter your male.......

Yes Spay your girls! I think she said her male was already neutered. But why is she artificially inseminating anyway??? Plus, she said in another thread that she couldn't afford to buy a puppy, so she obviously can't afford to care for a litter of puppies because we all know that costs WAY more than buying ONE puppy. And she already has 4 yorkies. Thats a lot of furbabies to care for.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Dolcesmama_xoxo

Yes Spay your girls! I think she said her male was already neutered. But why is she artificially inseminating anyway??? Plus, she said in another thread that she couldn't afford to buy a puppy, so she obviously can't afford to care for a litter of puppies because we all know that costs WAY more than buying ONE puppy. And she already has 4 yorkies. Thats a lot of furbabies to care for.

Just the cost in preparing for a breeding, let alone the raising of a litter far out weighs buying a new pup......dogs that are 5 years old are still pups.

Questioning the motives of the breeder that artificially inseminated the female is neither here nor there. Bottom line it is up to the owner of the female to do what is right for her girl.

[mallky]

I thank all of you that replied to my questions. The breeder that inseminated my girl likes to do this because maybe it is more likely that the female gets pregnant, don't know. She did the mom the same way, I don't like it, can't stand it but wanted to continue my family. I don't have the money to buy one, because I spent so much trying to mate her the normal way and the owner of the dog charged me anyway even though the male didn't do anything, then I went to the breeder and paid her. Then after my girl had the puppies I went to the vet etc etc etc. My only male is neutered and it is their brother. Well I guess this is the end of the family if 5 years is too old to breed for the first time. Thanks

[AnimalLoverKris]

Well....you still have probably 9 or 10 good years to enjoy the ones you have. :/

[Dolcesmama_xoxo]

Originally Posted by mallky

I thank all of you that replied to my questions. The breeder that inseminated my girl likes to do this because maybe it is more likely that the female gets pregnant, don't know. She did the mom the same way, I don't like it, can't stand it but wanted to continue my family. I don't have the money to buy one, because I spent so much trying to mate her the normal way and the owner of the dog charged me anyway even though the male didn't do anything, then I went to the breeder and paid her. Then after my girl had the puppies I went to the vet etc etc etc. My only male is neutered and it is their brother. Well I guess this is the end of the family if 5 years is too old to breed for the first time. Thanks

If you dont have the money to buy one, why are you asking if you should get your other girl pregnant?? That will cost a lot more than buying a new puppy?? And its not the end of the family, like the above poster said, your yorkies are only 5 yrs old, they are still puppies and have a lot of years left in them. about 10 years!

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I agree with you, except for I wouldn't contact the breeder, I would question any breeder who would artificially inseminate a 5 year old female who hadn’t given birth before. Your 5 year olds still have lots of life in them, yorkies live longer than many breeds and can live to be 15 years old.

Do not tell Maxine thaty she will be 15 on her next Birthday. Every day she is with us is precious.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Do not tell Maxine thaty she will be 15 on her next Birthday. Every day she is with us is precious.

I didn't know Maxine was that old, she sure doesn't look it! I just meant that she has a lot of years left with her dogs.