Smart A$$

[CouversMom]

Originally Posted by mscat

It was a choice you made , most people are not carrying dogs in purse's. It actually looks silly, plus dogs are not assessories No matter how cute it may look... Perhaps those who like to do so Need or crave that extra attention. Look ar me ! I have a dog in my purse! I am special! I am rich! I have a yorkie! Wow see me, I am cool, wait a minute until I vomit. i am just trying to figure it out and understand. Guess I don't get it?
The attitudes of some of those who carry around their dogs everywhere and in stores is astounding. RIDICULOOUS>

I have read through this entire thread, and I have to say that this is the most judgmental thing I have ever read on YorkieTalk. I had a lot of respect for you as a member mscat, but you definitely lost me here

As a person who carries my dogs in a purse, I feel that this was a very condescending comment. I hope you take time to think about how you sound and that you really put down a lot of people with your comment. I do not think I look 'cool' or 'rich' with my dogs. They are part of my family, and get to go with me a lot of places. I am sorry if you do not feel the same way about your dogs, but you do not see me talking down to you.

[CouversMom]

Originally Posted by Maximo

As for the subject of pets vs children, I believe quantifying the value of life and love in those terms diminishes the value of both. There is no adequate measurement, therefore the comparison is false.

THANK YOU! Finally someone who got it right All living things are equal in my view. I think as humans we have a superiority complex.

[CouversMom]

Originally Posted by ArmaniMan

Also- don't feel bad for people who don't have kids- not everyone wants them.

Exactly! I find it interesting that some people assume that everyone wants children. I understand that most women have the innate desire to be a mother, but not everyone has this.

I often feel bad for people who DO have kids!

[CouversMom]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

^^^^ Rachel, this is a perfect example of filling a void. Can you see that maybe your opinion about 'filling a void' with animals is your experience, and that you were perhaps projecting that on others?

Nothing wrong with that, but not everyone has a void that is fulfilled by pets.

I think that people assume that because they experience something, so does everyone else. I personally have no desire to have children, and my dogs are not filling a 'void'.

[lovespandp]

Pnut is my kid! I dont care what ANYONE SAYS! I buy him kid like things, I take him everywhere I can, I love him to death, I would carry him in a purse if he would let me, he eats the best food, has the best vet, a million toys. He is family!

I honeslty think I am "COOL" Yorkies are wonderful little things, they bring such joy and happiness to peoples lifes. Anyone that is able to have one is lucky and cool!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by CouversMom

I have read through this entire thread, and I have to say that this is the most judgmental thing I have ever read on YorkieTalk. I had a lot of respect for you as a member mscat, but you definitely lost me here

As a person who carries my dogs in a purse, I feel that this was a very condescending comment. I hope you take time to think about how you sound and that you really put down a lot of people with your comment. I do not think I look 'cool' or 'rich' with my dogs. They are part of my family, and get to go with me a lot of places. I am sorry if you do not feel the same way about your dogs, but you do not see me talking down to you.

I was also shocked when I read it, I didn't have much to say without getting myself in trouble. Though when mscat was called on it, this was her response:

Originally Posted by mscat

I know i did not mention anything about children vrs dogs. Their is no comparison. Children are always first.
Yes, I did get carried away. However, it feels good . And I do not care .

Originally Posted by gidget529

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Would you consider this entitlement?

And I will have to agree with gidget here with her post.

[rentfrog]

Originally Posted by jmdt

You never knew your heart could hurt so good!!! The unconditional love you have for your child is overwhelming. I was very nervous when I was pregnant with my second child because I didn't think my heart could hold that much love. How could I love the 2nd as much as the first. I thought there was no more room in my heart. It is so amazing the love you could feel. I have 4 children and my heart has just about exploded. I am very lucky to feel all the feelings of motherhood.
Bless you and your new baby. It is just truly a miracle. Enjoy every second.

Oh how I remember that exact feeling with my second daughter. I was actually scared to have a second, and it took me five years to decide to have her.
Let me tell you, I found the room in my heart for my second!!!

I joke that my daughter's are like night and day, and they are, in looks and in personality. Children will teach you many things, help you grow in many ways, help you down your life's path in different ways. It is not all about what you teach them, but what they teach you.........about the world, about yourself, about relationships. While my first helped me learn responsibility, undying love, patience, and courage, my second helped me learn acceptance, unconditional love, hope, humility and humanity. Children are a gift and we should cherish them every day!

My oldest sister decided young not to have children..........she was very happy with that decision for many years. As she reached the end of her child-bearing years I think she started to regret it.............too late to take that decision back, she adopted a pug........The girl who used to make fun of me for treating my yorkies like babies, now treats her TWO pugs like babies even more-so than me. They are her "children" and I even got her a Mother's Day card this year. When she asked why I said,
"Well you are Chico and Maddie's mama aren't you?" Made her very happy.
Whether by choice, "mistake", or design, some people do not have children........if they so choose to place all that love into an animal.......I see it as just another gift.
True Gifts in this world are varied, for some it is children, for some it is animals, and for some, it is BOTH!

[107barney]

Some people don't want kinds and think that having them would ruin their lives! It's not filling a void to have animals, it's just part of a natural existence for some to have them. I also don't really care when I see people carrying dogs in bags or in strollers. I usually just smile to myself thinking how wonderful it is to see someone who has incorporated their little dog(s) into their day.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by mscat

I know i did not mention anything about children vrs dogs. Their is no comparison. Children are always first.
Yes, I did get carried away. However, it feels good . And I do not care .

I don't mean to take the thread back to the negative, however, your post has bothered me for a few days now...and I just wanted to address it.

I think it's understandable to get carried away. I also think it can feel cathartic to express your feelings, even if/when we go too far. That said, it's hard to reconcile that you "don't care" about the feelings and opinions that may be different from yours. So many members have been so kind to you here, so that kind of stings. I realize there have been difficult threads for you (and all of us) in the past, but there has also been so much support.

Anyway, please don't take what I said the wrong way...but I too need to say what I feel at times, and I do care for you.

[ladyjane]

Have you all seen this?

Restaurant bans kids under 6. Discrimination or smart move? - Parenting on Shine

[chachi]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Have you all seen this?

Restaurant bans kids under 6. Discrimination or smart move? - Parenting on Shine

Interesting! I dont see anything wrong with it. Certain restaurants are trying to accomodate a certain type of clienetelle and shouldnt be subjected to screaming kids and parents that dont know when its time to leave because your child is behaving in a way that everyone can enjoy their time at the restaurant

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by chachi

Interesting! I dont see anything wrong with it. Certain restaurants are trying to accomodate a certain type of clienetelle and shouldnt be subjected to screaming kids and parents that dont know when its time to leave because your child is behaving in a way that everyone can enjoy their time at the restaurant

I totally agree. I don't understand how people allow their children to be disruptive.

[McheleM]

Originally Posted by chachi

Interesting! I dont see anything wrong with it. Certain restaurants are trying to accomodate a certain type of clienetelle and shouldnt be subjected to screaming kids and parents that dont know when its time to leave because your child is behaving in a way that everyone can enjoy their time at the restaurant

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I totally agree. I don't understand how people allow their children to be disruptive.

We've been to restaurants that are child free on certain days, and after 9. I see nothing wrong with it. I don't want to listen to a screaming kid during my dinner, movie, or even my shopping trips. I wish grocery stores had "adult only" shopping times. And movie theaters too....

[Britster]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Have you all seen this?

Restaurant bans kids under 6. Discrimination or smart move? - Parenting on Shine

I don't think that's a totally bad idea... I mean, certain restaurants just aren't meant for kids. I see nothing wrong with an owner of a restaurant making such a rule. Like, if I go to Ruths Cris (a fancy steakhouse if one doesn't know) I wouldn't bring a kid. I'd choose to go to Outback Steakhouse or something instead. Certain places are just more kid friendly than others and there's kind of an "unspoken" rule where to bring your kids and where not to.

[capt_noonie]

I just saw that on yahoo and it made me think of this thread! LOL That restaurant is only banning kids under 6, but I've seen plenty of children OVER the age of 6 having total cows in public. Like the kid at Ross I mentioned some 50 or so odd pages ago on this thread. I think he was about 8 or 9. While the idea of dining in an upscale, quiet restaurant with no kids under 6 seem nice, there can still be older kids or teens even who act inappropriately at times. Where's the cut off point? I think parents in general need to be able to control their kids.