Is he a teacup? HELP!!!!!

[Schooby]

Originally Posted by maggiesmom_2007

Just curious is this person located in Michigan?

I was wondering the same thing. There is a lady from MI that has been looking to breed tiny yorkies and is always asking everyone if they have a tiny male.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by SWHouston

moshes_human,
UMMMM.....14w/5#, come on now, PorkoPups don't count ! HA

(Uoops, did I just create a new Category ?)

Anyway....
Ok, so it's 4-7 Lbs !

My question still stands...
A TeaCup when less than ___#
A TeaPot when greater than ___#

Officially there are no such things...how dare you even ask! LOL!
Check the "rules" for YT clubs though...like over 7.5 is a teapot and under 3.5 is a teacup. Or is it over 7 and under 3...I think I just like using the .5 for some reason.

[SWHouston]

CGurl,

Yea, using a set # (.5) is a easy way to do that, but...
The reducing a half pound from the low number, has
a MUCH greater impact than adding it to the larger.

Maybe a % would be a better way to do this.
Given that there are "some" anomolees...
How about a -10% or +10% respectively.

Or, would that be enough variance ?

[hnybun128]

For those who wondered, this woman is not from Michigan. She's a childhood friend that I haven't seen in maybe 25 years (and I'm not that old ), so definitely not someone I'd say I know well.

[hnybun128]

Originally Posted by Breny

You can also let her know that you got your baby from a reputable breeder that protects her babies and sold him on limited registration (no breeding rights)
EEEEK I can't even imagine breeding a 3 lb baby no matter HOW old she is. What a great reply you gave her!!!!

Well, and that made me think, too, Brenda. She obviously is free to breed her dog, so God only knows where she got the poor thing from.

[MyTrixie143]

Good for you for trying to educate her!!

I've pretty much have given up on the whole teacup and breeding thing. I can't tell you how many people I have tried to explain to that there isn't such a thing as a teacup, there is only one standard for a yorkie. Very rarely do they listen.

But what is worse is those who want to breed their 3lb yorkie and you try telling them how dangerous and unhealthy it is. They just don't listen!!

For example, I know a girl on facebook that has a 2 1/2lb yorkie girl that was just bred. She is fairly new to breeding and I told her way ahead of time the dog shouldn't be bred. Obviously she didn't listen.

[EsmeeKimme]

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

Good for you for trying to educate her!!

I've pretty much have given up on the whole teacup and breeding thing. I can't tell you how many people I have tried to explain to that there isn't such a thing as a teacup, there is only one standard for a yorkie. Very rarely do they listen.

But what is worse is those who want to breed their 3lb yorkie and you try telling them how dangerous and unhealthy it is. They just don't listen!!

For example, I know a girl on facebook that has a 2 1/2lb yorkie girl that was just bred. She is fairly new to breeding and I told her way ahead of time the dog shouldn't be bred. Obviously she didn't listen.

OMG, how could she do that? I would think even with a C-section that it would kill a 2.5 pound girl to be pregnant. I could never!

[DvlshAngel985]

Sorry OP if this is totally off topic.

I'm really confused as to why there is so many discrepancies in what the size of a yorkie is according to the standard. I checked the YTCA page, which states "must not exceed 7 lbs."

I also checked he AKC website also states, "must not exceed 7 lbs."

Where are all the other numbers coming from?
AKC website:
American Kennel Club - Yorkshire Terrier
YTCA website: oops, the link didn't copy correctly. Just click "the official standard" link on the left and it will take you to see the standard for he yorkie.
Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
If you scroll down on both pages, they both say "must not exceed 7 lbs."

[BabyGirl Rosie]

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

Good for you for trying to educate her!!

For example, I know a girl on facebook that has a 2 1/2lb yorkie girl that was just bred. She is fairly new to breeding and I told her way ahead of time the dog shouldn't be bred. Obviously she didn't listen.

OMG!!! That is terrible!! My Rosie is 5 1/2 pounds and I never wanted to breed her because I didn't want to risk anything!! 2 1/2 lb is just not right. Poor little thing!! What is worse is that you tried to tell her!

[snorsworthy]

It kills me to see a pup placed in a teacup on websites... It gives the wrong impression of the breed and supports the unreal thought that they are really Teacups and doesn't do a thing to show the dangers of breeding the Terriers to such a small size..

[maggiesmom_2007]

Originally Posted by hnybun128

For those who wondered, this woman is not from Michigan. She's a childhood friend that I haven't seen in maybe 25 years (and I'm not that old ), so definitely not someone I'd say I know well.

Okay thanks for the response. There is a woman that was a member here and she has multiple accounts on FB. She has been harassing several breeder friends of mine asking what their males weights are because she is looking for a tiny stud for her girls. Her girls range well below 5lbs. I have tried to inform her that breeding with a smaller male is not gonna give her smaller pups. I have also tried to educate her on why she should not be breeding the small females she has and also on all that could go wrong if the pups are too small or too big at birth. I feel sorry for her dogs because they sure didn't ask for that. I do know the new female she got is from a BYBer.

[concretegurl]

I posted the link for AkC and the quote showing where it was noted: what President and I were talking about the 4-7 pounds reference.

The rest was some nonsense we were talking about going on about teapots and teacups etc. We were just getting silly.

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

Sorry OP if this is totally off topic.

I'm really confused as to why there is so many discrepancies in what the size of a yorkie is according to the standard. I checked the YTCA page, which states "must not exceed 7 lbs."

I also checked he AKC website also states, "must not exceed 7 lbs."

Where are all the other numbers coming from?
AKC website:
American Kennel Club - Yorkshire Terrier
YTCA website: oops, the link didn't copy correctly. Just click "the official standard" link on the left and it will take you to see the standard for he yorkie.
Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
If you scroll down on both pages, they both say "must not exceed 7 lbs."

From the AKC link: at the top of the page:
"Right Breed for You?
Yorkies are easily adaptable to all surroundings, travel well and make suitable pets for many homes. Due to their small size, they require limited exercise, but need daily interaction with their people. Their long coat requires regular brushing.

If you are considering purchasing a Yorkshire Terrier puppy, learn more here.

* Toy Group; AKC recognized in 1885.
* Ranging in size from four to seven pounds.
* Companion, ratter.

© The American Kennel Club, Inc. "

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

I posted the link for AkC and the quote showing where it was noted: what President and I were talking about the 4-7 pounds reference.

The rest was some nonsense we were talking about going on about teapots and teacups etc. We were just getting silly.


From the AKC link: at the top of the page:
"Right Breed for You?
Yorkies are easily adaptable to all surroundings, travel well and make suitable pets for many homes. Due to their small size, they require limited exercise, but need daily interaction with their people. Their long coat requires regular brushing.

If you are considering purchasing a Yorkshire Terrier puppy, learn more here.

* Toy Group; AKC recognized in 1885.
* Ranging in size from four to seven pounds.
* Companion, ratter.

© The American Kennel Club, Inc. "

That is just on the "Meet the Yorkshire Terrier page and NOT a part of the standard. For each breed the AKC gives an average size range on their "Meet" page. It means nothing -- just something to give those knowing little about the breed an idea of the average size range.

The standard is as you all reported "must not exceed 7 pounds."

Off Topic -- Concretegurl --Hope you & your baby are doing well! Down to the final days countdown now! I'm crocheting, but this bum hand is not cooperating so I am slow -- I'll let you know when I get it done!

TO THE OP: Please let this person know that it is NOT just the size of the male she breeds that tiny girl to that is putting her girl at risk. Not only is it a HUGE risk for a 3 pound girl to go through a pregnancy but there is also family history on BOTH sides to consider. If she finds a tiny male, he could be the "runt" of a litter that averaged well ABOVE the standard. Her own tiny girl might be from a family that often whelps LARGE puppies. What is that tiny 3 pound girl going to do if she winds up having a large litter of larger puppies? She is going to tear something vital and not make it, or she is going to go into premature labor and lose the puppies, but too many varibles that wind up with DEATH.

I'm looking at my little 3 pound girl and wondering how anyone could do that! Glad you gave her the right info even if it doesn't sound like she is willing to listen yet. Who knows, maybe if she hears the same story several times it will sink in. You tried!