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11-12-2005, 06:58 PM | #16 |
No Longer a Member | Son ran to the store down the street. I will try 2 tsp. and the burnt toast. Poor thing has the "sweetest" kisses ever now. |
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11-12-2005, 07:01 PM | #17 |
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| Gizmo is praying for his fellow Mogwai... Stupid Hershey bar... |
11-12-2005, 07:02 PM | #18 |
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| Deb and Maya are sending puppy kisses to Gizmo!!!
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11-12-2005, 07:03 PM | #19 |
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| I thought you had the syrup, sorry. You can use three percent hydrogen peroxide instead if your son hasn't left.
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11-12-2005, 07:16 PM | #20 |
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| Found this: Chocolate contains theobromine and caffeine, which are both methylxanthines. The amount of methylxanthines present depends on the type of chocolate (see chart below.) In general, the less sweet the chocolate, the more toxic it could be. In fact, unsweetened baking chocolate contains almost seven times more theobromine as milk chocolate. Methylxanthines can cause CNS stimulation, tachycardia, and tremors. Signs seen with chocolate toxicosis include vomiting, diarrhea, hyperactivity, polyuria, polydipsia, lethargy, tachycardia, cardiac arrhythmias, seizures, and death. Based on ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center (APCC) experience, mild signs occur in animals ingesting 20 mg/kg and severe signs are seen at doses over 40mg/kg. Type of Chocolate Methylxanthines-mg/oz (approx): Milk chocolate 50-62 Semi Sweet 160 Baking chocolate 428-440 Estimates of the smallest amounts that may be fatal are: **Small dogs such as Chihuahua and toy poodles is 4-10 ounces of milk chocolate or 1/2 to 1 ounce of baking chocolate ** Medium dogs such as dachshunds and cocker spaniels is 1 to 1-1/2 pounds of milk chocolate and 2-3 ounces of baking chocolate. ** Large dogs such as Labradors and Collies is 2 to 4-1/2 pounds of milk chocolate or 4 to 8 ounces of baking chocolate. When people call and want to know if the hershey's kiss their lab ate is going to kill it, I tell them about this to put it in perspective. Margaret Moorman: In calculating a dose, I would recommend using the worst case scenario. For example, where it says milk chocolate 50-62 mg/oz, I would use 62 unless it has something else on the label. Elizabeth Warren: Definitely Margaret, but a lot of people seem to have gotten the idea that chocolate=death, period. Brenda: I had a 55# Bassett mix that ate a whole batch of no bake oatmeal chocolate cookies. Did not affect him at all. What is in a Hersey chocolate bar? Elizabeth Warren: I get a lot of candy calls (milk chocolate). They really need to eat a bunch to become toxic. Brenda, I think they make baking chocolate in bars as well as candy bars (milk chocolate). Margaret Moorman: Hershey's milk chocolate bars contain 55.5 mg/ox of theobromine and 6.45 mg/oz of caffeine. If a 5# dog ingested a 1.55 oz. chocolate bar, the dose would be 42.3 mg/kg. Elizabeth Warren: Even small amounts of chocolate can and do cause GI upset. Yep; the smaller the dog, the smaller the dose to toxicity. http://www.vspn.org/Library/Misc/VSPN_M02714.htm
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11-12-2005, 07:44 PM | #21 |
No Longer a Member | he had the ipicac over 15 minutes ago and he hasn't thrown up yet..been hacking tho. He has a very loose stool. Gonna be a long night. Please pray for my Giz. Thank you all for your good thoughts and wishes. All I could think to do was get on the computer and would have lots of help from you girls.. I'll check back a little later. He's just laying there, poor thing. Oh I hate this. |
11-12-2005, 07:48 PM | #22 |
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| If he doesn't throw up in the next 15 minutes or so, I would give him the other teaspoon of the syrup. It said two or three. He might need the third one. My Gizmo and I will worry along with you tonight. Good Luck, you have our prayers.
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11-12-2005, 07:56 PM | #23 |
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| I wish I knew of some magic answer. There is no fix. The only thing a vet can do is to make them throw up and give them charcoal to soak up stuff from their stomach. I'm just hoping that since he weighs 11 pounds that the candy bar won't have much of an effect on him. What kind of chocolate bar was it and what size?
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11-12-2005, 08:02 PM | #24 |
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| Oh, wow! I just saw this thread! Is he ok??? Poor little guy! I hope you guys are doing ok!!!! Lucky sends hugs & kisses to him!! |
11-12-2005, 08:14 PM | #25 |
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| Im just now reading this. How is he? I will keep him in my thoughts and prayers. |
11-12-2005, 08:26 PM | #26 |
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| I hope all is well Poor baby
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11-12-2005, 08:30 PM | #27 |
No Longer a Member | Giz has thrown up 3 times with the two teaspoons of ipicac, it took 30 minutes. That stuff DOES work. He wants nothing to do with the burnt toast someone suggested. But I will try again. Only had diarreah once. All this happened 2 1/2 hours ago. It wasn't a Hershey bar, I was using that as an amount est. It was a milk chocolate foil covered turkey..for thanksgiving I'm guessing. Bout big as your fist. Must have smelled it thru the foilf. He ate the WHOLE thing, foil and all. Anyway, he's just laying here pitiful, doesn't want to be held. He did seem to lose quite a lot when he threw up. Wonder if he needs some pedialite now. His belly is bloated and hard. He wants to go out but it's dark outside and need to know if he gets the poops again. Giz is my heart, and I just hurt for him. |
11-12-2005, 08:38 PM | #28 |
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| I don't know if you should or shouldn't give pedialite. I'm inclined to think that you shouldn't since you don't want anything in their stomach to go further. I hope someone else on here knows more than I do, which is nothing!
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11-12-2005, 09:10 PM | #30 |
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| bump ....
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