Ugly Duckling Syndrome or Issues of Past Neglect??

[hugz4all4]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Which may -- or may not -- have been nothing more than a messy house.
Don't read more into things. Though due to other issues stated would be the red flag.
They not wanting to meet you someplace is not the biggest red flag. Which I've always said, "hey stranger, you "say" you're interested in buying a pup, why don't you come on over to my house see what I have and wait until I leave (remember you told me you're going to 'think' about the pup and 'get back to me') and come back and steal my dogs, my tv, etc"
Sorry, it's a dangerous world out there these days, desperate times for desperate people. Do NOT bring just anyone claiming to be looking for a dog into your house --- especially if it's obvious it's just you and the dogs there. Be a smart seller, not a dead one. It's not like it's not obvious that so many single women sell pups. Just needs to be confirmed by the so called "buyer"!

I agree with what you posted 100 percent!! When we found Rosies new owner he wanted to come to the house and because I didnt know him personally I wouldnt let him come to the house, I have 4 kids and my other animals to think about, and my house is always clean!! So it doesnt always have to be a "red flag" because the person didnt want to meet you at their house to get the pups. Its a crazy world we live in now a days..
Rosie's owner turned out to be a wonderful guy who loves her to dealth and she is now an even more spoiled 65 pound coon dog that gets to sleep in the bed with her owner and has taken his 8000 dollar leather couch as hostage..
To the OP thanks for taking this pup, sounds like she needs lots of loving care, a decent food and maybe some fish oil supplements to help with her coat issues.

[KYHoney]

The bloodwork and fecal checks were done but I'll have to ask him about the bile acids test. I had never heard of that before but I'm sure he can do it.

[Rhetts_mama]

Thanks for taking in these little ones to give them a better life. I look forward to seeing before and after pictures.

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by joeys mom

Bless you for having a big kind heart and looking past her physical appearance because she would have surely been left in that mess with no happy life...and now she is in a lovely place being able to run, and play with someone to look out for her....You made me so happy with your story.... I am sure with time and proper nutrition her coat will improve...I had a rescue that had coat issues and though it never grew long, the texture improved greatly..

Ditto...you are a blessing!!!!!!!!

[KYHoney]

Romeo and Juliette are both going to the groomers tomorrow. We have a couple of pics from when we first received them and I'll take addt'l ones tomorrow both before and after her appointment. She looks so disheveled at the moment with her lopsided haircut and thinning hair. I was thinking of using some vaseline to tame the wild hairs on her nose to keep them from poking her in the eyes. Hopefully it won't take too awful long to grow them out. I was going to tell the groomer to just give her a puppy cut so we can start out fresh and even and go from there. Any suggestions?

[yorkieusa]

I think they are both very lucky to have you.

Check this link:

http://www.yorkieshampoo.com/yorkiehairstyles.aspx

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Which may -- or may not -- have been nothing more than a messy house.
Don't read more into things. Though due to other issues stated would be the red flag.
They not wanting to meet you someplace is not the biggest red flag. Which I've always said, "hey stranger, you "say" you're interested in buying a pup, why don't you come on over to my house see what I have and wait until I leave (remember you told me you're going to 'think' about the pup and 'get back to me') and come back and steal my dogs, my tv, etc"
Sorry, it's a dangerous world out there these days, desperate times for desperate people. Do NOT bring just anyone claiming to be looking for a dog into your house --- especially if it's obvious it's just you and the dogs there. Be a smart seller, not a dead one. It's not like it's not obvious that so many single women sell pups. Just needs to be confirmed by the so called "buyer"!

Isn't this your responsibility as a Breeder to get to know your Buyer? To check references of potential Buyers to make sure that they would make wonderful & safe pet owner for your precious puppies?

Not worrying if the stranger you called who was advertising his/her want for a Yorkie puppy might steal your dogs or your tv...

This is what I myself would expect of my Breeder...to do his/her homework to make sure that I am exactly who I say I am to the best of his/her ability...but, that's just me.

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Which may -- or may not -- have been nothing more than a messy house.
Don't read more into things. Though due to other issues stated would be the red flag.
They not wanting to meet you someplace is not the biggest red flag. Which I've always said, "hey stranger, you "say" you're interested in buying a pup, why don't you come on over to my house see what I have and wait until I leave (remember you told me you're going to 'think' about the pup and 'get back to me') and come back and steal my dogs, my tv, etc"
Sorry, it's a dangerous world out there these days, desperate times for desperate people. Do NOT bring just anyone claiming to be looking for a dog into your house --- especially if it's obvious it's just you and the dogs there. Be a smart seller, not a dead one. It's not like it's not obvious that so many single women sell pups. Just needs to be confirmed by the so called "buyer"!

Why in the world would any reputable breeder hand over a puppy on the side of the road to someone they wouldn't trust in their own home?

[Ringo1]

I'd say my breeder had checked me out pretty thoroughly BEFORE she invited me to come to the house. We had emailed, talked by phone, and she had contacted my Vet all prior. So, she at least had a clue.

I understand the concern because in my old job I traveled around going to stranger's homes to handle their claims. Sometimes it was scary; but it was my job single woman or no. I actually learned to love meeting strangers and have many fond memories of people I met and talked with.

A time or two - it was kinda scary.

Bottom line, I'm gonna want to see where the dogs live before I purchase the dogs.

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Why in the world would any reputable breeder hand over a puppy on the side of the road to someone they wouldn't trust in their own home?

Lol...you're right no reputable Breeder would...BUT, a Greeder, now they would do it in a heart beat!

[Lizzie07]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Isn't this your responsibility as a Breeder to get to know your Buyer? To check references of potential Buyers to make sure that they would make wonderful & safe pet owner for your precious puppies?

Not worrying if the stranger you called who was advertising his/her want for a Yorkie puppy might steal your dogs or your tv...

This is what I myself would expect of my Breeder...to do his/her homework to make sure that I am exactly who I say I am to the best of his/her ability...but, that's just me.

I wouldn't dream of placing a foster dog of mine with someone I didn't trust, I can't believe someone responsible would place one with someone they didn't trust. Not much love goin' on for the puppies, IMO.

[mscat]

I traveled several cities away from home to see my first yorkie puppy. i ended up getting lost . I was on the phone with the breeder, and then the daughter for nearly anther HR. trying to find their home. The Breeder stood in her driveway, which was a very long graveled road, that is the only way I found her. I went buy her house in circles , until she pulled her car up her drivewway and stood there wating for us.
It was love at first site. I never had even seen a yorkie in real life. I was smitten. I did not even think about asing to go inside her home after being lost for that long. Suzi has turned out to a beautiful yorkie, and a great watchdog. She is nearly 3 yrs old . And is a darker colored yorkie.
I was looking for a "friend" for Suzi the folllowing year. Somebody reccomended a lady in Fresno who had a litter of Puppies. I instantly thought they were yorkie's. SO my brother and I went to the breeder's home after making arrangements from the breeder. I was invited inside their house. It was not yorkie's , but A litter ful of Shih Tzu's. Fortuntely a shih Tzu was a dog that I had considered when thinking about getting a dog. These little guys looked like Gizmo's. They were AKC , plus the Breeder allowed plenty of time for the visit. I placed a deposit on one of them , then left.
A couple weeks later I brought home a SHih Tzu baby. Their was a big difference between the two breeders. The shih tzu breeder was more professional , and made sure that my autistic son was not going to squeeze a new puppy to death. She was more cautious with us, and wanted her puppies to go to very good homes.

[diannenet]

Originally Posted by Ringo1

I'd say my breeder had checked me out pretty thoroughly BEFORE she invited me to come to the house. We had emailed, talked by phone, and she had contacted my Vet all prior. So, she at least had a clue.

I understand the concern because in my old job I traveled around going to stranger's homes to handle their claims. Sometimes it was scary; but it was my job single woman or no. I actually learned to love meeting strangers and have many fond memories of people I met and talked with.

A time or two - it was kinda scary.

Bottom line, I'm gonna want to see where the dogs live before I purchase the dogs.

When I applied to rescue Toby, not only did the foster mom call my vet, she called all five references I had listed on my application. I was very impressed.

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Isn't this your responsibility as a Breeder to get to know your Buyer? To check references of potential Buyers to make sure that they would make wonderful & safe pet owner for your precious puppies?

Not worrying if the stranger you called who was advertising his/her want for a Yorkie puppy might steal your dogs or your tv...

This is what I myself would expect of my Breeder...to do his/her homework to make sure that I am exactly who I say I am to the best of his/her ability...but, that's just me.

In a perfect world I would agree. Of course in a perfect world we needn't worry about those things would we? I'm talking about initially meeting someone...I hardly think breeders are paying for and waiting weeks to receive criminal background checks on every one who calls wanting to see a puppy. If it's a chance one wants to take so be it, some do not. As it only takes one bad incident. I'm not particularly fond of the idea of going to a strangers house anymore than they are thrilled with the aspect of a stranger coming to theirs. (bad things happen both ways) Granted I would like to see the environment but I wouldn't hold it against someone if (after I've checked them out) wanted to meet me elsewhere. Again, probably less risk with a household full of people coming and going...would send the message to the potential bad person that this isn't the best place...but to the nice single woman showing her dogs...the phone not ringing while the person is there, no neighbors/relatives/friends showing up unexpectedly...
think like a criminal and there you go...but all this concern of mine is probably after spending a long time working in the criminal justice system with offenders who didn't understand "rehabilitation". So sure just let anyone in...I'm sure the percentage is small in such a situation. Probably depends more on one's locale too.

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by Lizzie07

I wouldn't dream of placing a foster dog of mine with someone I didn't trust, I can't believe someone responsible would place one with someone they didn't trust. Not much love goin' on for the puppies, IMO.

trust is built and not in a day. I'm talking about initial meetings. There the trust issue goes BOTH ways. Reference calling? Oh, please. Call someone's vet? sure, yeah, I'm sure the vet remembers them well. So someone had a dog five years ago and maybe there's a vet record...they were waiting for just the "right pup" yeah, took a few years (while they were doing time maybe :-). So are you saying you'd never sell to someone who hadn't had a dog in recent years and able to produce a vet record? Someone needs a vet record of recent to be a good pet owner? Wow there went a lot of potential really good homes.
A foster dog is a bit different isn't it? Isn't the fostering place required to do more checking ??? IDK about all that.