Selling at 8 weeks?

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by peachesmom1sc

ACA males yorkie pups - Price: 600

CreatedDecember 15, 2010ExpiresJune 15, 2011Viewed15 times
3 male yorkie pups 5 weeks old, have mom and dad on site, very loving. should be ready for Christmas

I would stay away from ACA pups. Advertising at 5 weeks old, saying ready by Christmas -- 10 days from posting! So they are going to let them go home at just barely over 6 weeks old!!! How sad! Hope each buyer is getting their Care Credit apps filled out. I can see we will be getting some after-Christmas posts of new owners not knowing what is wrong with their 6 week old pups. How can these breeders be so greedy as to push the pups out into the world like that when the mother is right there for those babies? This makes me so mad when I think of those little puppies only getting half of their time with mom & siblings for no other reason than the almighty dollar!

[EmmaPeel]

Hi all...I have sent an email to the breeder stating that we will not be picking our puppy up at 8 weeks. I do want to say that she has not told me to pick the pup up at 8 weeks...just that they would be ready then (with vet approval).

Will keep you posted on her reply! Thanks so much for all of the advice! It is MUCH appreciated!

: )

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

... This is my first litter too, so I've probably spent more time with them than those that breed a lot of litters and it's not like a "new thing" anymore to them (a guess) ??? I'm still thrilled everyday being around the pups watching 'em grow and learn/discover.
Ben pottying by the door...could be his way of letting you know he doesn't like you gone, not you bad, him just a bit sad. I'd say that's smart of him...my one Yorkie is a bit of a smarta** too! She "tattles" on the other adult all the time. It's pretty funny.
Getting late here, gotta go to bed. It's been fun talking to you about our puppies.
Kendra

There is nothing like a litter of puppies to watch. I enjoyed every minute. That is why it is so hard to imagine these breeders who push the pups out so early. I think I made up reasons to keep mine longer. They are just so much fun! Enjoy yours while you can -- it passes all too soon.

Maybe Ben is saying the being gone is the "bad" part. He will pout a little but I can always get him out of it with enough kisses & hugs. He is so funny like that. He can't resist the high-pitched lovey-dovey voice. Even moreso, he cannot resist if he thinks the other two might be getting some attention. They all have their own little personalities. People without pets never fully understand the depth of their intelligence and individuality.

[peachesmom1sc]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Are these the puppies?

no this is just a email i got this morning from oodle i'm not thinking of buying one i just still get e-mails from them

[abgabby1]

I am buying a Yorkie puppy and it will not be ready until February. The lady says she is a registered breeder. She breeds CKC yorkies. She sell's her puppies strictly by word of mouth, no advertising she says. She said she doesn't ever give her baby yorkies vaccines or wormings. She said because they are so little, it would be dangerous. She let's the new owner bare the cost and says she doesn't make any money off of breeding because of how much the vaccines have gone up. I could see that and understand...I'm waiting until it is 9 weeks old so that I can get her started on wormings and vaccines she needs because she won't have them before then. I have just recently bought a Yorkie puppy at age 11 weeks and the breeder is a registered AKC breeder who has given all of the wormings and vaccines before we picked her up. Except for the last set of shots. I will take her for that. But my question is this, how come the breeder of the pup I have now (Izzy) has had all but one set of shots and all her worming at 11 weeks and she is just as small as the other CKC ladies litter I'm to get a pup from? Am I making sense? What is your opinion? I just think if she cared about her puppies well being...if she can't afford to give them shots at the proper time then maybe she shouldn't be breeding dogs? Am I right? *sigh*

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by abgabby1

I am buying a Yorkie puppy and it will not be ready until February. The lady says she is a registered breeder. She breeds CKC yorkies. She sell's her puppies strictly by word of mouth, no advertising she says. She said she doesn't ever give her baby yorkies vaccines or wormings. She said because they are so little, it would be dangerous. She let's the new owner bare the cost and says she doesn't make any money off of breeding because of how much the vaccines have gone up. I could see that and understand...I'm waiting until it is 9 weeks old so that I can get her started on wormings and vaccines she needs because she won't have them before then. I have just recently bought a Yorkie puppy at age 11 weeks and the breeder is a registered AKC breeder who has given all of the wormings and vaccines before we picked her up. Except for the last set of shots. I will take her for that. But my question is this, how come the breeder of the pup I have now (Izzy) has had all but one set of shots and all her worming at 11 weeks and she is just as small as the other CKC ladies litter I'm to get a pup from? Am I making sense? What is your opinion? I just think if she cared about her puppies well being...if she can't afford to give them shots at the proper time then maybe she shouldn't be breeding dogs? Am I right? *sigh*

Yes you are right! Do not buy from this breeder, remember it is far far easier to find a bad breeder than to find a good breeder. Personally, I think people should "assume" the breeder is bad, until they prove differently. Just being CKC doesn't necessarily mean a bad breeder and being AKC doesn't mean good breeder, but I always recommend people only look at AKC breeders, if they would actually like a purebred. It really is the only reputable registry. Selling at 8 weeks has been discussed, so you know what we think of breeders who do that. Selling a dog with absolutely no protection or any shots is horrible, she's putting her puppies at real risk. Good breeders have told me their dogs never touch the ground before they have had their shots, and many give the shots themselves, because they don't want to expose their dogs to the vet office where they could easily catch something. If the 11-week-old puppy is the same size as the 8 week old puppy, chances are the 8 week old puppy will be much larger. A rule of thumb is three times the 8-week weight, and twice the 12-week week to get an "estimate" on adult size.

[abgabby1]

Thanks Nancy
I have the AKC Yorkie pup we picked up from the breeder at 11 weeks...she was 2.7 lbs then and now weighing her at Vet yesterday she is weighing in at almost 3 lbs at 15 wks. She's the one that had all but one set of shots left and we took her to get them and also she had all wormings by 11 wks too. This breeder had excellent health records of shots given and wormings etc...and a nice packet in plastic vinyl for our records. Now the puppy that was born yesterday evening will be CKC and she is the breeder that says she doesn't want to give the pups shots or wormings and it's up to us as owner's to do this. Well, bottom line is, I not knowing any better has sunk 250.00 down payment into this puppy. That's the problem. Should I get this puppy and get her shots and wormings and take the chance of her coming into contact without any of her shots to my yorkie AKC pup? Or get the puppy get her shots then sell her? Or just forfeit my down payment? Geesh, I am so stupid for not being more careful, flags should have hit me in the face!!!! GRRRRRRrrrrrr

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by abgabby1

Thanks Nancy
I have the AKC Yorkie pup we picked up from the breeder at 11 weeks...she was 2.7 lbs then and now weighing her at Vet yesterday she is weighing in at almost 3 lbs at 15 wks. She's the one that had all but one set of shots left and we took her to get them and also she had all wormings by 11 wks too. This breeder had excellent health records of shots given and wormings etc...and a nice packet in plastic vinyl for our records. Now the puppy that was born yesterday evening will be CKC and she is the breeder that says she doesn't want to give the pups shots or wormings and it's up to us as owner's to do this. Well, bottom line is, I not knowing any better has sunk 250.00 down payment into this puppy. That's the problem. Should I get this puppy and get her shots and wormings and take the chance of her coming into contact without any of her shots to my yorkie AKC pup? Or get the puppy get her shots then sell her? Or just forfeit my down payment? Geesh, I am so stupid for not being more careful, flags should have hit me in the face!!!! GRRRRRRrrrrrr

I would forfeit the down payment, $250.00 is a drop in the bucket compared to what you would pay out in a sick dog, not to say anything of the emotional cost. I also want to add that Joey's breeder would not accept any down payment, and I think many reputable breeders will not, they want you to be happy the placement. I think that there should be a "relationship" established with the breeder before purchase, and a mutual trust should be in place. Finding a good breeder is harder than finding a good husband, lots of "dating" has to take place too.

[abgabby1]

Thanks guys, I have decided to forfeit the deposit. I want a healthy puppy and to find a breeder who is trustworthy and cares about their puppies and the need to place their puppies in the very best of homes. Nancy, thank you for helping me...you guys are the best It's sad that I had my hopes up for Izzy to have a friend and now they are shattered. But a lesson learned...for me & my dear husband, we will be more cautious when finding another breeder.

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by abgabby1

Thanks guys, I have decided to forfeit the deposit. I want a healthy puppy and to find a breeder who is trustworthy and cares about their puppies and the need to place their puppies in the very best of homes. Nancy, thank you for helping me...you guys are the best It's sad that I had my hopes up for Izzy to have a friend and now they are shattered. But a lesson learned...for me & my dear husband, we will be more cautious when finding another breeder.

I am glad to read this! Nancy and the others are very knowledgeable and it is wise to take their advice. Some times people take it as criticsm instead of advice and get on the defensive. I am glad you were open to listen. I know $250 is still a lot of money to lose, but really if you were to go forward with this puppy, who knows how much money in emergency bills or sickness would come in the future. Good luck on your new search. when the right breeder and puppy comes along you will know.

[abgabby1]

Yes, capt_noonie, I am open to knowledge and experience. That is why I came to join this forum. I realize all of you have the knowledge I haven't at this point. I am learning everyday by reading. Not defensive at all. Yes, 250.00 is a lot of money these days but I would rather forfeit now because I love the little 15 week old Yorkie I have now so much that I don't want to endanger her with what could come with a sick puppy. I'd never forgive myself if I did that.

I am off on the quest to find another breeder, because I really want a puppy to grow up with my Izzy. She is such a sweet puppy and I know when I see the puppy I want and the breeder I feel is legit, I will know it. Lesson learned.

Julie

[LilPuppyLove]

Originally Posted by abgabby1

Yes, capt_noonie, I am open to knowledge and experience. That is why I came to join this forum. I realize all of you have the knowledge I haven't at this point. I am learning everyday by reading. Not defensive at all. Yes, 250.00 is a lot of money these days but I would rather forfeit now because I love the little 15 week old Yorkie I have now so much that I don't want to endanger her with what could come with a sick puppy. I'd never forgive myself if I did that.

I am off on the quest to find another breeder, because I really want a puppy to grow up with my Izzy. She is such a sweet puppy and I know when I see the puppy I want and the breeder I feel is legit, I will know it. Lesson learned.

Julie

have you tried the YTCA or AKC breeder lists? they list by state and you might be able to find a good breeder there... plus, maybe consider a slightly older pup? i know any reputable breeder will allow and expect an owner of their pups to return it to them if they couldnt keep it for some reason.. some of the breeders might have one that was returned that they could sell at a discounted price. I dunno... never hurts to ask right!

[abgabby1]

Hi I was just going to ask how can I get the website for that list of breeders...I had it earlier and now I can't find it. Do you have it?

[kjc]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I think so too -- mine like I said were showing a preference for the pad just not fully trained. I think that is the best thing about raising them in a play yard with most of it covered in pee pads. They have their bed area and their eating area and they just naturally pee on the pads. Then they tend to prefer a pad when you let them have more room to roam. But if they get too large an area, mine normally would just go ahead and pee. The only one that fussed for something to pee on was that little girl. I should have kept her! My problem with my last litter was I had too many wanting females before the litter was ever born. I should have still kept one but I went ahead and placed them all. My boys think I am crazy here a year and a half later, buying a little female myself! Timing had a lot to do with it too. After I lost my momma dog, I was not wanting to replace her. I needed to get some time between them so I would not be comparing, you know what I mean? Going off track again, sorry. But yes, I do believe some can be trained early. I just have not had the best luck at getting them fully house trained that early myself. I start thinking progress is made, and then ..... I get a surprise. I won't get concerned for another month. I usually have them house-trained for the most part by 6 months. My adults will occasionally have accidents too. I found it funny as you described the same place for your adult's accidents. Mine too -- right by the front door. I do not let them out the front door nor use a puppy pad there. So, why that is where the "accident" happens, I don't know. I sometimes think Ben is doing it on purpose to say he did not like me being gone -- I usually leave by the front door. So maybe he equates that with me being bad?

I think they do it at the front door to leave their mark so you can find your way home....

[LilPuppyLove]

Originally Posted by abgabby1

Hi I was just going to ask how can I get the website for that list of breeders...I had it earlier and now I can't find it. Do you have it?

yep here ya go!

AKC - American Kennel Club - Breeder Referral Search

YTCA - Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club