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cr4z135 · 11-02-2010, 08:31 PM

I don't understand people who get dogs, then get upset when they bark!! They're DOGS! Dogs bark! My Gambit isn't much of a barker so I'm lucky, in fact he only barks when his toy falls off the couch and he wants me to pick it up for him (yes, he's incredibly spoiled!) but even if he was, I would never, ever, strap a collar on him that would shock him! I wish I could take all the silly dog owners who have shock collars on their dogs and zap them on the throat a few times. If you're too lazy to work with your dog on "settling", as I tell Gambit when he gets excited and close to barking, then you don't deserve to have one! If the customer thought the barking was such a big deal she should call The Dog Whisperer!

He could train her to work with her poor dog! Things like this get me so worked up I could...Well, bark.

Donnainohio63 · 11-02-2010, 08:31 PM

I do not believe that any dog should have a shock collar, some people just do not get it. I hear so many people say,,,,it is just a dog,,,,that makes me so angry. I think there should be better screening done for people who want to adopt/ buy a dog. I would never use any of these new devices they have. How about these people that are actually having their dogs voice boxes removed,,,,,Oh do not get me started. People need to think before they act.

angeleyes · 11-02-2010, 08:31 PM

Belle was a real barker, she just had to bark at everything. We tried the little squirt gun with water but that was great fun, she's stand and bark at it so we would squirt her! Then we tried the pennies in the can... what a great toy that became..lets attack the can!

Now when she barks I go and look out the window with her then tell her thank you for letting mommy know there was a dangerous squirrel in the yard. She looks at me like I'm not understanding the threat but she is barking much less.

loveshay · 11-02-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by teffiemoore

yes, yorkies are little barkers..we work on ours constantly. I do not believe in collars that spray, shock or vibrate for many reasons..for one , the device has to be placed over the larynx (voice area) which is located next to their trachea and yorkies have very sensitive tracheas. Some of these devices have microphones on them and can trigger them to respond by external noises not even made by the dog. I have a cute story to share though...my son and dil have two labs. One barks constantly, only at night. My son bought a collar that sprays citronella..didn't work...bought a high pitch noise device that goes off when he barks..didn't work...so, my dil got a pair of walkie talkies because she was convinced "beamer" was lonely at night outside..so she puts the walkie talkie taped around his collar and when he barks at night..she talks to him and soothes him from hers in the bedroom....wala..problem getting much better.

love it!

NAUTILUS1900 · 11-03-2010, 01:20 AM

I really can't understand why those devises are available for anyone to purchase. Off course they may be a very useful tool to the hands of a professional, but in the hands of anybody else they can become a torture machine. If the same lady that bought this collar for her dog, sees the same collar on someones kid what do you think she would do? Call the police?
If anyone can buy this collar, then they can put it on a dog, a cat or even a child. Why not? Personally I would love to see this collar on her neck and the remote in my hands!!!
Lady if you have personal issues get a shrink, don't torture animals

Maria

Deuce · 11-03-2010, 06:04 AM

Now, don't you all turn on me or anything, but, have any of you actually tested a shock collar on yourselves? I have, because my sister bought one for her dog because of his barking and her being threatened with an evicition. Since I was against it, I put it on my arm and hit the button so I could feel what the dog was feeling. Honestly I didn't feel anything at all, so I put it on my cheek, with this I could feel a sort of tickle, so I put it on my throat and tried it out, it felt like a very light vibration. Nothing painful about it (when set to the correct level for the dog), now is this a good choice for a yorkie or other toy breed? NO!
Toy breeds are way to prone to tracheal problems, so her purchasing one for a yorkie is a big mistake, for many reasons to include leaving a collar on her unsupervised dog. There aren't a lot of options out there to bark proof your home when you arent there, as the noise making ones that aren't connected to your dog don't deter them. I have one and I know he still barks when he hears me pulling up to the house.
Again, don't attack, I'm just saying that shock collars, when used properly, aren't inhumane...would I ever use one, nope, no matter how large the dog is. And again, shock collars are not a good idea for a toy breed at all, not due to the shocking sensation but due to the device having to be worn on them when you cannot supervise...jmo.

katienme2002 · 11-03-2010, 07:42 AM

I think shock collars are for lazy people who dont want to take the time to properly train their dogs. Luckily Roxie isnt a big barker, she will bark at strange dogs, and when she plays, but other than that she is pretty quiet.

Nancy1999 · 11-03-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by teffiemoore

Yes, Yorkies are little barkers..we work on ours constantly. I do not believe in collars that spray, shock or vibrate for many reasons..for one , the device has to be placed over the larynx (voice area) which is located next to their trachea and Yorkies have very sensitive tracheas. Some of these devices have microphones on them and can trigger them to respond by external noises not even made by the dog. I have a cute story to share though...my son and DIL have two Labs. One barks constantly, only at night. My son bought a collar that sprays citronella..didn't work...bought a high pitch noise device that goes off when he barks..didn't work...so, my DIL got a pair of walkie talkies because she was convinced "Beamer" was lonely at night outside..so she puts the walkie talkie taped around his collar and when he barks at night..she talks to him and soothes him from hers in the bedroom....wala..problem getting much better.

What a thoughtful DIL you have, she'll make a good mommy!

Nancy1999 · 11-03-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce

Now, don't you all turn on me or anything, but, have any of you actually tested a shock collar on yourselves? I have, because my sister bought one for her dog because of his barking and her being threatened with an evicition. Since I was against it, I put it on my arm and hit the button so I could feel what the dog was feeling. Honestly I didn't feel anything at all, so I put it on my cheek, with this I could feel a sort of tickle, so I put it on my throat and tried it out, it felt like a very light vibration. Nothing painful about it (when set to the correct level for the dog), now is this a good choice for a yorkie or other toy breed? NO!
Toy breeds are way to prone to tracheal problems, so her purchasing one for a yorkie is a big mistake, for many reasons to include leaving a collar on her unsupervised dog. There aren't a lot of options out there to bark proof your home when you arent there, as the noise making ones that aren't connected to your dog don't deter them. I have one and I know he still barks when he hears me pulling up to the house.
Again, don't attack, I'm just saying that shock collars, when used properly, aren't inhumane...would I ever use one, nope, no matter how large the dog is. And again, shock collars are not a good idea for a toy breed at all, not due to the shocking sensation but due to the device having to be worn on them when you cannot supervise...jmo.

Great post, thanks for the information, no one should be attacked for giving another point of view!

Poochieheaven · 11-03-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce

Now, don't you all turn on me or anything, but, have any of you actually tested a shock collar on yourselves? I have, because my sister bought one for her dog because of his barking and her being threatened with an evicition. Since I was against it, I put it on my arm and hit the button so I could feel what the dog was feeling. Honestly I didn't feel anything at all, so I put it on my cheek, with this I could feel a sort of tickle, so I put it on my throat and tried it out, it felt like a very light vibration. Nothing painful about it (when set to the correct level for the dog), now is this a good choice for a yorkie or other toy breed? NO!
Toy breeds are way to prone to tracheal problems, so her purchasing one for a yorkie is a big mistake, for many reasons to include leaving a collar on her unsupervised dog. There aren't a lot of options out there to bark proof your home when you arent there, as the noise making ones that aren't connected to your dog don't deter them. I have one and I know he still barks when he hears me pulling up to the house.
Again, don't attack, I'm just saying that shock collars, when used properly, aren't inhumane...would I ever use one, nope, no matter how large the dog is. And again, shock collars are not a good idea for a toy breed at all, not due to the shocking sensation but due to the device having to be worn on them when you cannot supervise...jmo.

I have! And it hurt! It was a surprise shocking (by my boyfriend who thought he'd be funny), so that may have added to it..but it did hurt!

I don't remember the brand or kind, so it may have been a different one than what you used.

Deuce · 11-03-2010, 10:21 AM

maybe it was for a large breed and on the highest setting?? My sis had one designed for med. dogs and she left it on the lowest setting, maybe that's where the difference is?

Poochieheaven · 11-03-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Deuce

maybe it was for a large breed and on the highest setting?? My sis had one designed for med. dogs and she left it on the lowest setting, maybe that's where the difference is?

could of been, it was a few years ago, so I don't remember...but I do remember it hurt! haha.

Deuce · 11-03-2010, 10:29 AM

It's crazy what men think is funny...haha

Jessilee19 · 11-03-2010, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce

Now, don't you all turn on me or anything, but, have any of you actually tested a shock collar on yourselves? I have, because my sister bought one for her dog because of his barking and her being threatened with an evicition. Since I was against it, I put it on my arm and hit the button so I could feel what the dog was feeling. Honestly I didn't feel anything at all, so I put it on my cheek, with this I could feel a sort of tickle, so I put it on my throat and tried it out, it felt like a very light vibration. Nothing painful about it (when set to the correct level for the dog), now is this a good choice for a yorkie or other toy breed? NO!
Toy breeds are way to prone to tracheal problems, so her purchasing one for a yorkie is a big mistake, for many reasons to include leaving a collar on her unsupervised dog. There aren't a lot of options out there to bark proof your home when you arent there, as the noise making ones that aren't connected to your dog don't deter them. I have one and I know he still barks when he hears me pulling up to the house.
Again, don't attack, I'm just saying that shock collars, when used properly, aren't inhumane...would I ever use one, nope, no matter how large the dog is. And again, shock collars are not a good idea for a toy breed at all, not due to the shocking sensation but due to the device having to be worn on them when you cannot supervise...jmo.

My roommate has a beagle and every time she leaves the house she puts him in his crate and he cries and howls and every other noise he can think of. She tried a few things and i guess thought nothing would work(Of course she didn't try very hard) so she ended up buying a shock collar for the poor guy. He was incredibly annoying when he would cry but i would never have gotten a shock collar, even for him. Anyway, she went and got it and put it on him and of course he cried then yelped because it obviously hurt him, then yelped again and again. I felt horrible being able to hear that because apparently it hurt him enough to make him yelp. Now i don't know what settings she has it on or anything like that but i do know that it hurts him when it shocks him. I have never tried one on myself though so i have no personal experience other than that.
Oh and thank you for your viewpoint!

Deuce · 11-04-2010, 04:48 AM

Personally I think a beagle is too small for a shock collar, and that particular breed is know to bay when bored. She should have either taken him to a doggy day care or not picked out that breed (I personally believe this breed is a family dog since it requres so much stimulation to keep it pleasant).
Most of these collars come with notes that state that if the dog does more than twitch his ear or look at you when the shocking is initiated then it is too strong of a current for the dog. If he was yelping that that was def. too high of a setting for him and needed to be lowered, and if it was on the lowest setting it just goes to show what I stated before, it's not a good solution for a toy breed. They're just too small...I'm so sorry for that beagle, she was using it as a torture device and not using it as it should have been.

11-02-2010, 08:31 PM	#16
cr4z135 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 23	I don't understand people who get dogs, then get upset when they bark!! They're DOGS! Dogs bark! My Gambit isn't much of a barker so I'm lucky, in fact he only barks when his toy falls off the couch and he wants me to pick it up for him (yes, he's incredibly spoiled!) but even if he was, I would never, ever, strap a collar on him that would shock him! I wish I could take all the silly dog owners who have shock collars on their dogs and zap them on the throat a few times. If you're too lazy to work with your dog on "settling", as I tell Gambit when he gets excited and close to barking, then you don't deserve to have one! If the customer thought the barking was such a big deal she should call The Dog Whisperer! He could train her to work with her poor dog! Things like this get me so worked up I could...Well, bark. __________________ Sarah & Gambit

11-02-2010, 08:31 PM	#18
angeleyes YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hugo, MN USA Posts: 325	barking Belle was a real barker, she just had to bark at everything. We tried the little squirt gun with water but that was great fun, she's stand and bark at it so we would squirt her! Then we tried the pennies in the can... what a great toy that became..lets attack the can! Now when she barks I go and look out the window with her then tell her thank you for letting mommy know there was a dangerous squirrel in the yard. She looks at me like I'm not understanding the threat but she is barking much less.

11-02-2010, 08:31 PM	#17
Donnainohio63 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lorain Ohio Posts: 1,882	I do not believe that any dog should have a shock collar, some people just do not get it. I hear so many people say,,,,it is just a dog,,,,that makes me so angry. I think there should be better screening done for people who want to adopt/ buy a dog. I would never use any of these new devices they have. How about these people that are actually having their dogs voice boxes removed,,,,,Oh do not get me started. People need to think before they act.

11-03-2010, 01:20 AM	#20
NAUTILUS1900 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 172	I really can't understand why those devises are available for anyone to purchase. Off course they may be a very useful tool to the hands of a professional, but in the hands of anybody else they can become a torture machine. If the same lady that bought this collar for her dog, sees the same collar on someones kid what do you think she would do? Call the police? If anyone can buy this collar, then they can put it on a dog, a cat or even a child. Why not? Personally I would love to see this collar on her neck and the remote in my hands!!! Lady if you have personal issues get a shrink, don't torture animals Maria

11-03-2010, 06:04 AM	#21
Deuce No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,717 Blog Entries: 1	Now, don't you all turn on me or anything, but, have any of you actually tested a shock collar on yourselves? I have, because my sister bought one for her dog because of his barking and her being threatened with an evicition. Since I was against it, I put it on my arm and hit the button so I could feel what the dog was feeling. Honestly I didn't feel anything at all, so I put it on my cheek, with this I could feel a sort of tickle, so I put it on my throat and tried it out, it felt like a very light vibration. Nothing painful about it (when set to the correct level for the dog), now is this a good choice for a yorkie or other toy breed? NO! Toy breeds are way to prone to tracheal problems, so her purchasing one for a yorkie is a big mistake, for many reasons to include leaving a collar on her unsupervised dog. There aren't a lot of options out there to bark proof your home when you arent there, as the noise making ones that aren't connected to your dog don't deter them. I have one and I know he still barks when he hears me pulling up to the house. Again, don't attack, I'm just saying that shock collars, when used properly, aren't inhumane...would I ever use one, nope, no matter how large the dog is. And again, shock collars are not a good idea for a toy breed at all, not due to the shocking sensation but due to the device having to be worn on them when you cannot supervise...jmo.

11-03-2010, 07:42 AM	#22
katienme2002 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Somewhere Over the Rainbow Posts: 1,290	I think shock collars are for lazy people who dont want to take the time to properly train their dogs. Luckily Roxie isnt a big barker, she will bark at strange dogs, and when she plays, but other than that she is pretty quiet.

11-03-2010, 10:21 AM	#26
Deuce No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,717 Blog Entries: 1	maybe it was for a large breed and on the highest setting?? My sis had one designed for med. dogs and she left it on the lowest setting, maybe that's where the difference is?

11-03-2010, 10:29 AM	#28
Deuce No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,717 Blog Entries: 1	It's crazy what men think is funny...haha

11-04-2010, 04:48 AM	#30
Deuce No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,717 Blog Entries: 1	Personally I think a beagle is too small for a shock collar, and that particular breed is know to bay when bored. She should have either taken him to a doggy day care or not picked out that breed (I personally believe this breed is a family dog since it requres so much stimulation to keep it pleasant). Most of these collars come with notes that state that if the dog does more than twitch his ear or look at you when the shocking is initiated then it is too strong of a current for the dog. If he was yelping that that was def. too high of a setting for him and needed to be lowered, and if it was on the lowest setting it just goes to show what I stated before, it's not a good solution for a toy breed. They're just too small...I'm so sorry for that beagle, she was using it as a torture device and not using it as it should have been.