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Old 10-30-2005, 07:32 PM   #1
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Me again! LOL. Ok well here is my dilemma and I don't know if it's a big problem or not. My mom has yorkies and she kept a boy from one of her Miss Peaches litter. Well evidentally the boy she kept (Miss Peaches' son) got her pregnant and she had a litter in June. Well my mom has sold the 2 girls but has 2 boys left. One of them I just love, but I'm not sure is this okay?

She took the puppies to vets and they had a full workup for genetic defects/flaws and they checked out fine, but does that happen with breeders? Also ( I know she didn't mean for it to happen for all those ppl who will say she should have terminated the pregnancy) the pups are AKC full registration and I just want to make sure if the one boy I'm looking at does happen to have a litter with my little girl that's legit....Or what would you do in this situation? I just have fallen in love with him he is precious. Thanks for advice!
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Me again! LOL. Ok well here is my dilemma and I don't know if it's a big problem or not. My mom has yorkies and she kept a boy from one of her Miss Peaches litter. Well evidentally the boy she kept (Miss Peaches' son) got her pregnant and she had a litter in June. Well my mom has sold the 2 girls but has 2 boys left. One of them I just love, but I'm not sure is this okay?

She took the puppies to vets and they had a full workup for genetic defects/flaws and they checked out fine, but does that happen with breeders? Also ( I know she didn't mean for it to happen for all those ppl who will say she should have terminated the pregnancy) the pups are AKC full registration and I just want to make sure if the one boy I'm looking at does happen to have a litter with my little girl that's legit....Or what would you do in this situation? I just have fallen in love with him he is precious. Thanks for advice!
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Hello Im not sure what your asking. You ask if its ok. Is what ok? It sounds like the puppies are allreay here and Im so glad they all came out ok. I have never heard of anyone breeding a mother and son befor. What did they vet say about it?
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:01 PM   #3
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Actually I am looking to buy one of my moms boy puppies. The parents of the puppy are mother and son. (It was an accidental pregnancy) My mom didn't know she was in heat and opted to not abort the pregnancy. The vet did a complete workup on all pups and said he found no genetic problems with them. They are almost 5 mos old and I am pet sitting them for her right now while she goes out of town for 2 wks but am unsure as whether to buy him. We may choose to have a litter later on with our female and aren't sure if this a no-no or not.
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Oh I c I dont think I would breed them are they too related?
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You're asking if there is any reason why you shouldn't mate the male (who's parents are mother and son) to your female (who isn't related to the male), right?
I'm no help, sorry. but here is a link where some very good YT breeders touched on the subject.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ght=inbreeding
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Perhaps a moderator could move this thread to the breeder's forum where the knowledgable breeders can help you with this.

This has been done in the past in order to strengthen particular traits in a line.

They have wayyyy more experience/knowledge on this than the ordinary yorkie owner who has not thoroughly researched breeding.


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Old 10-30-2005, 08:22 PM   #7
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No the little girl I have is from OH and this little boy is here in NC. I just wanted to know if the lines have had no past hereditary problems and the pups have had extensive bloodwork and stuff through vet and checked out ok is it ok for them to have pups later on or should I not. I am not a breeder and don't intend to do it to make money. I would probably end up keeping the litter. (Hubby doesn't know that yet LOL) So just curious if this happens sometimes and whether it should cause concern or not. Like I said she had no intention of breeding. (Miss Peaches is 8 yrs old) But she didnt find out til it was pretty much too late and she refused to have the puppies terminated. So I'm just curious. Like I said I'm not a breeder and have no intention of running a puppy making factory but in the chance they do have puppies should I be concerned?
Thanks for your help in advance I know weird questions. Just thought someone on here might have had this happen or know of a similiar situation and what could be possible problems, drawbacks, etc...
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The only thing that I can say is that if you do breed and someone who purchases a puppy decides to get the full pedigree, then it will show that the father is inbred. Now I have every Yorkie book known to man and one of mine from 1992 says that it is ok to breed Mother and Son or Father and Daughter but never Brother and Sister. I don't understand that but thats what it says. I think that there is a chance that the father (the male pup) while having no genetic problem himself, may pass something on to a pup. You know how things can skip a generation. If you are not purposely wanting to breed, then I would suggest having them fixed so that you do not have to worry about it..If you want the option of breeding, then I would probably keep looking...Thats just my opinion...
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lots of people Line breed ..look at the Royal family lol no kidding the issues that insue with Inbreeding are intense Only breeder who have been breeding in a serious venue(40+years) should line or inbreed when inbreeding occure you are taking your lines flaws and Making them 2x as bad every dog line has a flaw ... with proper breeding you minimize the flaw .. rather it be eyes hips knees emotional poor coat ect. where in the parent its not a issue in the inbreed puppie it is a huge issues ... i can tell you of people who have bought inbreed puppie who have had to put them down due to Nurologial disordeers that made them run in a circle and cry ... this didnt show up till 1 1/2 to be honest i know breeders who have culled full litters that this happend to .. you dont want this to come back and bite you as a breeder in the behind I am not Condoning the culling just telling you about it . if your going to give health gur with your puppies .. i would pass up on this puppy as a breeder and make shure him and his sisters are all fixed ! good luck and this is just my oppinion
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Here is the pic of the little boy I'm thinking of adopting from my mom. Still not sure what I will do but I'll let you guys know my decision after I make it. Thanks for all the info. I thought my mom was crazy when she told me there are breeders who actually practice line breeding (inbreeding) to produce "quality" yorkies. For her she had no intention of it happening and I believe her. She's raised/showed/bred yorkies and lhasa apsos as long as I can remember and I know she wouldn't intentionally let a dog breed or let a litter survive knowing parents had awful traits. Just hope there are no bad traits in past generations that will show up later. Thanks for all the helpful info! I appreciate it.
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i have to say he is verry cute ... since your mom know her lines that well she will be able to tell you what to look for as test to run for faults i see your delema looking at him!
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I rememeber that when I took Tucker for his first check up, the vet said that an over or underbite was a sign of inbreeding.. Check for one of those and if it is bad, then he may pass it on and it may be worse in one of the puppies...
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