Poppy is home!!!

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Unless puppy purchasers report it, these breeders will continue to operate outside the law.

The KC has several other more stringent laws being put into place.

And unfortunately a lot of puppy purchasers are ignorant of the law

[furbutt]

I cant believe i am even posting this...

My breeder just txt me asking how Poppy was... i dunno why he would do this after the way he spoke to me yesterday because he relly didnt care about her last night.

In his text he said the people who where ment to be buying the other puppys from Poppys liter have let him down and he is going to have to re advertise the puppies... he asked if i wanted to take another puppy at a reduced price!!! I AM IN SHOCK. I txt him back saying poppy is fine and that i think the other puppies should stay with there mother untill 12 weeks of age after the trouble i have had with poppy and i could not afford to look after two dogs.

He just txt me back telling me he is happy poppy is ok and he ignored what i had said about the puppys being kept with there mother untill 12weeks and he continued to tell me that him and his husband are having a take away and a drink tonight!!!!! Ugh i dont think what this breeder is doing is right and its annoyed me he has had the cheek to txt me and ask if i would like another puppy.

I am going to phone the RSPCA now and see if they can do something so that the puppys stay with there mother untill they are 12 weeks old. I can but try xxx

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by furbutt

I am going to phone the RSPCA now and see if they can do something so that the puppys stay with there mother untill they are 12 weeks old. I can but try xxx

Well, it is 8 weeks in England under the Animal Welfare Act, so the RSPCA should be able to act against him under that law. Please let us know what the RSPCA says.

[CJxDanielle]

It terrible that you have to go through this and even more terrible to know that there are plenty of breeders like him in the world. It just goes to show you have to make sure you know what you are getting into and do AS MUCH RESEARCH as you possibly can on the breeder you are getting your pup from before you make the purchase.

Make sure to update us once you get on the phone with the RSPCA to see if they can do anything for these poor puppies.

[JDS]

Originally Posted by Rachael x

Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Act 1999
Breeders who breed four or more litters per year must be licensed by their local authority. Breeders with fewer litters must also be licensed if they are carrying out a business of breeding dogs for sale.
Licensed breeders must:
a) Not mate a bitch less than 12 months old.
b) Not whelp more than six litters from a bitch.
c) Not whelp two litters within a 12 month period from the same bitch.
d) Keep accurate records.
e) Not sell a puppy until it is at least eight weeks of age, other than to a keeper of a licensed pet shop
or Scottish rearing establishment.

This is from the KC website.. Thing is though no all breeders here are licensed.
Some are hobby breeders who just dont bother to get a license or some litters are 'acidental'
This is where it comes common (usually 6 weeks more then 5).
Over here pups are weaned at about 4 weeks and once they are eating dog food they go to new homes, I know its not right and I agree it shouldnt be common but unfortunatley it is.

EDIT: Oh and just to answer your origional question yes it is illegal but unfortunatley still happends.

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Yes, it is in violation of the Animal Welfare Act - unfortunately a lot of BYB's don't even know about the Act, or just chose to ignore it.

Thank you both for clearing it up. Hopefully this "breeder" will be introduced to the law.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by John Stelting

You need to get a car...... take the puppy back to the breeder...... and demand a full cash refund immediately or you will file a complaint with the local authorities that this breeder is not following proper rules in regard to age of puppies he/she is selling.....

You will have nothing but trouble with this puppy being sold at this age.


Of course you won't do this.............. you'll just complain when you have excessive vet bills.

Ouch. That was a little harsh.
The OP is open and receptive to advice and has been researching this breed for awhile. If the pup had to end up any where, she's very lucky she ended up where she did.

[2Morkies]

Originally Posted by John Stelting

You need to get a car...... take the puppy back to the breeder...... and demand a full cash refund immediately or you will file a complaint with the local authorities that this breeder is not following proper rules in regard to age of puppies he/she is selling.....

You will have nothing but trouble with this puppy being sold at this age.


Of course you won't do this.............. you'll just complain when you have excessive vet bills.

Yes, that was mean and harsh of you....shame on you. Maybe you should buy her a car and go with her to "demand" her money back.
Why do you feel you can be rude and harsh to someone asking for advice?? I understand questions about those who don't have a clue on breeding, but she is not to blame.
She did everything right in looking for a healthy puppy from who she thought was a good breeder. She got screwed by him. She knows if she takes Poppy back the idiot will just sell her again. Poppy is better off with her as she can do nothing about the breeder.

[furbutt]

Ok sorry to post again with ANOTHER exciting update, i dont wanna post everytime poppy breathes haha but i am so excited. I walked into the livingroom room and poppy was over her bowl drinking her milk from it I was so happy. She got out of her bed herself walked over to her bowl had a long drink and then climbed back into bed How wonderful is that. I have changed her milk to the milk with the puppy goats milk thats in the little cartons, she seems to really like it because she is drinking it ALOT Really happy she is eating and drinking ok. What a special little girl she is. xxx

[Beamers Mom]

Natasha
I am sure we all love to hear the updates on Poppy - feel like we have a vested interest in her life now -see, Poppy has all us "virtual" mommies now

I get a kick out of hearing how much better Poppy is doing

[furbutt]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Natasha
I am sure we all love to hear the updates on Poppy - feel like we have a vested interest in her life now -see, Poppy has all us "virtual" mommies now

I get a kick out of hearing how much better Poppy is doing

Thank you so much

I cant stop being so happy when she is doing things for herself. I was jumping around the livingroom so happy before because she did a poo LOL She was so hyper before running around playing trying to climb up me and lick my chin lol. Then she was running after the cat (my cat just is not bothered at all about her) and she has a fair speed when she wobbles along running about its so cute lol. She has come on leaps and bounds and i am starting to really relax that she is going to be ok. Yes you played a part in making sure poppy is ok

Its amazing how much everyone helped me here when non of u knew me and you all live miles and miles away its truely amazing that a bunch of very special people helped me to save my babies life on the internet. YT is full of alot of guardian angels who are here to help and support others its amazing. Just so greatfull to everyone pulled together to help me in mine and poppys time in need, again thank you all I will be becoming a donating member of YT its such a wonderful place.

Poppy is fast sleep now i think i might get her up for a little play before we go to sleep for the night so she might sleep better through the night.

xxxx

[Rhetts_mama]

LOL- glad to hear she's doing better. And I totally understand the joy over her going poo. I had to come on here and post after Scarlett started pooing on her own, too. I knew that no one else but the people here would find it quite as exciting as I did

[Beamers Mom]

Natasha and Donna

you gals need to get a life - getting excited over poo

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Natasha and Donna

you gals need to get a life - getting excited over poo

To this day my husband still givea me a when the dogs have gone poo and it looks healthy......

[flafox67]

Just got home and immediately went checking to see how Poppy was doing. Glad she's doing well. I know you are excited to see her doing normal things!!!

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by furbutt

Thank you so much

I cant stop being so happy when she is doing things for herself. I was jumping around the livingroom so happy before because she did a poo LOL She was so hyper before running around playing trying to climb up me and lick my chin lol. Then she was running after the cat (my cat just is not bothered at all about her) and she has a fair speed when she wobbles along running about its so cute lol. She has come on leaps and bounds and i am starting to really relax that she is going to be ok. Yes you played a part in making sure poppy is ok

Its amazing how much everyone helped me here when non of u knew me and you all live miles and miles away its truely amazing that a bunch of very special people helped me to save my babies life on the internet. YT is full of alot of guardian angels who are here to help and support others its amazing. Just so greatfull to everyone pulled together to help me in mine and poppys time in need, again thank you all I will be becoming a donating member of YT its such a wonderful place.

Poppy is fast sleep now i think i might get her up for a little play before we go to sleep for the night so she might sleep better through the night.

xxxx

Natasha I am just reading your thread right now. My goodness I can't believe the trouble you've gone through! I am praying for Poppy and I hope she continues to thrive for you. God bless you, your an angel for taking Poppy and SAVING her life! Who knows what another family would do with her? At least she has a chance at growing and staying healthy. It's so wonderful the help you can get on YT. Please ignore John the a**hole!!! I think he needs to take that bully stick out of his butt! How dare he wow.