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Old 08-06-2010, 10:08 AM   #46
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My Tatiana is a 3 lb female. Her breeder says she's too small to have puppies.

I regard Tatiana as a precious pet, and I never intend to breed her.
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Old 08-06-2010, 10:11 AM   #47
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My Tatiana is a 3 lb female. Her breeder says she's too small to have puppies.

I regard Tatiana as a precious pet, and I never intend to breed her.
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This girl is way to small to be bred. You can do thr right thing and refuse and hopfully for the little girls sake she will get the message.
Just because you have a male and she has a female is NOT reason to breed them
With all the unwanted dogs in this country only the best of the best and pre-screened dogs should be bred. Have you tested your male's bile acids, have you had his eyes cerfed, have you done reseach on his line and the female lines to make sure they will produce well together/
If the answer is NO to any of the questions he should not be bred.
It takes more then putting 2 dogs together to be a responsilbe breeder
You may tell the bitches owner that 60% of yorkies are c sections and that does not guarantee live puppies or tha tthe bitch will make it either
sorry for so sever of an answer BUT if more people thought before they bred we would have a much healthier breed.
Just look around the health section and see some of the problems people are having
I bet more then 90% are gentic!

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What is it that you feel would educate you?
probably agreeing and saying "Go for it" I think that is the only "education" being looked for
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Looks like she posted to stir the pot and then left. I wouldn't even bother responding to her questions because she knows the answers
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Old 08-06-2010, 10:48 AM   #51
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I know ZERO about breeding but I do know I would never put my baby in danger to make money. I am suprised by how many people approach me when I am out to see if I am going to breed my boy since he is small. I have NO plans to let him reproduce and will have him fixed as soon as he is old enough. I had no idea what to look for when I saw him and sadly I now think he came from a lady running a puppy mill. She had way too many dogs. I took him because I couldn't leave him where I knew he would have almost no human contact except when they were on display for sale. Now thanks to this board I know so much more and when we are ready for a brother for Harley hopefully I will be able to find a reputable breeder in Western Ky area. I can't thank everyone enough, you all have been so kind!
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Old 08-06-2010, 10:59 AM   #52
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Looks like she posted to stir the pot and then left. I wouldn't even bother responding to her questions because she knows the answers
I actually don't think she posted "just" to stir the pot. I think she thinks My Little Man is a cute dog and since everyone asks her to breed with their dog, she thinks "Why not?" Joey's breeder warned me that people would ask, me this all the time, of course, she sold on limited registration, so I really couldn't legally breed him anyway, but this doesn't stop most people. Until I read how this changes your male from a sweet little boy to a "Big" Man, I didn't know there was a problem. Also, if someone isn't aware that yorkies are one of the sickliest breeds because so many people are breeding for profit and not doing health testing and not studying the lines, before breeding, they may think we are making a big deal about nothing. She believes you "have to take chances in life." She doesn't understand that this is not a chance she's taking; nothing will happen to her if things don't turn out right. It's a chance she's allowing some female yorkie to take, and even her male, as he could be injured during mating if knowledgeable people aren't assisting. She thinks animals do it in the wild so what's the big deal, she doesn't understand that once man domesticates an animal, man does have the responsibility to stay involved and learn how to breed safely. She feels no protection, yet, over yorkies as a whole.

NatNatt thinks because her dog is little and cute and healthy, he'll have little cute healthy puppies, she doesn't want to hear that there is a high probability this will not be the case, she only wants to know how much money she should ask for. She's not thinking about where those puppies will go, or if the new owners will have the money to pay for any health problems the puppies might have. She doesn't understand that breeders should do EVERYTHING in their power to ensure that they are breeding dogs whose offspring have a wonderful chance at being healthy. She probably doesn't understand that the number one cause of death in unneutered male dogs is death due to injuries caused by a car accident, once they have been bred, they want to continue to do it, and can smell a bitch in heat ten miles away. Breeders sacrifice a lot for this breed, but good breeders do it for the love of the breed, not the love of money.
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Money really is the root of all evil. A 3-lber being bred is just plain evil!!!!
If I may...The LOVE of money is the root of all evil...money is wonderful, it can solve many problems and help many people..but to love it to the point of harming others is evil...
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NatNatt: I hope you tell the person with the 3 pound yorkie to get her spayed. Yorkies under 5 pounds should never be bred. I'm not a breeder and even I know that. This woman needs to understand that she is harming her small yorkie by breeding her. IF the yorkie even makes it through a pregnancy, she could end up with a shattered pelvis at best from the size of the puppies. Especially if the boy is bigger than she is (full grown).

Also, your boy should be neutered. He will feel so much better without his hormones raging every time a female in heat is around. Plus, he will be less likely to mark in your home.

There is no reason a "normal" person should be breeding their pup, no matter what breed it is. Breeders know what they're doing after years of research, and even then things can go wrong.

As Bob Barker would say: "Help control the pet population. Have your pet spayed or neutered."
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I actually don't think she posted "just" to stir the pot. I think she thinks My Little Man is a cute dog and since everyone asks her to breed with their dog, she thinks "Why not?" Joey's breeder warned me that people would ask, me this all the time, of course, she sold on limited registration, so I really couldn't legally breed him anyway, but this doesn't stop most people. Until I read how this changes your male from a sweet little boy to a "Big" Man, I didn't know there was a problem. Also, if someone isn't aware that yorkies are one of the sickliest breeds because so many people are breeding for profit and not doing health testing and not studying the lines, before breeding, they may think we are making a big deal about nothing. She believes you "have to take chances in life." She doesn't understand that this is not a chance she's taking; nothing will happen to her if things don't turn out right. It's a chance she's allowing some female yorkie to take, and even her male, as he could be injured during mating if knowledgeable people aren't assisting. She thinks animals do it in the wild so what's the big deal, she doesn't understand that once man domesticates an animal, man does have the responsibility to stay involved and learn how to breed safely. She feels no protection, yet, over yorkies as a whole.

NatNatt thinks because her dog is little and cute and healthy, he'll have little cute healthy puppies, she doesn't want to hear that there is a high probability this will not be the case, she only wants to know how much money she should ask for. She's not thinking about where those puppies will go, or if the new owners will have the money to pay for any health problems the puppies might have. She doesn't understand that breeders should do EVERYTHING in their power to ensure that they are breeding dogs whose offspring have a wonderful chance at being healthy. She probably doesn't understand that the number one cause of death in unneutered male dogs is death due to injuries caused by a car accident, once they have been bred, they want to continue to do it, and can smell a bitch in heat ten miles away. Breeders sacrifice a lot for this breed, but good breeders do it for the love of the breed, not the love of money.
Great Post!!

In looking back over the OP's other posts it seems she has a pattern of stirring the pot and bowing out as it starts to ripple. She has asked for advice in the past and has clearly ignored what was offered to her.I wonder why someone would ask for advice and not take it. It seems pointless to ask in the first place.

She was told that 6 weeks old was too young for a Yorkie to leave its mother and siblings and yet she still insisted on getting him that young. Later, she posted about how very frustrated she was with him when he was exhibiting behaviors and habits she thought was very inappropriate and did not fit in with her lifestyle.

When the pup was 4 months old she started a post bragging how wonderfully healthy her puppy was and tried to rub it in the other posters' faces by saying "I guess what you all told me about 6 weeks being to young was not true."

The sad part about this whole ordeal is that those furbabies will be the one to suffer from the blatant stupidity of their owners. I to have done some stupid things in my life and with my furbabies, but I can sit here and honestly say that at least I am not so self absorbed that I will not listen to hard core facts and reasoning. I have changed my mind and outlook on lots of things and I can only hope that one day something will click in the OP's head and a light will come on.

Until then, I don't feel like this OP has intentions of asking legitimate questions she wants legitimate answers for, and that is why I will not entertain her threads anymore.

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Sadly, I have to agree with Yorkie Proud.

I have a sneaking suspicion that in about 3 months there will be another thread with the OP saying the deed had been done, the pups are here and the bitch didn't die so that OBVIOUSLY means that people on here don't know what they are talking about.

Hopefully when that happens, the very knowledgable breeders here will tell her she got lucky and once again numerate exactly what was wrong behind the thinking. I say that not because it will prevent the OP from doing it again, but because the thread will be educational for those newbies reading here when it happens.

Is it beating a dead horse to have to repeat everything? Yes. But obviously there will always be people who either think they know better or just plain don't care enough about the dogs to do the right thing.

And just as unfortunately, there will be other posters coming on and jumping all over the knowledgable, responsible people for being "mean". Stupidity seems to thrive with cheerleaders.
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I have had people come and ask me if I was going to breed my girl.. Common sense prevails , and their is no way I would ever do it. As far as I know doing it the right way , their is very little money made into breeding. Their are too many risks as well.
You are not looking at the big picture , only what you can profit out of, this is such a shame
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Sadly, I have to agree with Yorkie Proud.

I have a sneaking suspicion that in about 3 months there will be another thread with the OP saying the deed had been done, the pups are here and the bitch didn't die so that OBVIOUSLY means that people on here don't know what they are talking about.

Hopefully when that happens, the very knowledgable breeders here will tell her she got lucky and once again numerate exactly what was wrong behind the thinking. I say that not because it will prevent the OP from doing it again, but because the thread will be educational for those newbies reading here when it happens.

Is it beating a dead horse to have to repeat everything? Yes. But obviously there will always be people who either think they know better or just plain don't care enough about the dogs to do the right thing.

And just as unfortunately, there will be other posters coming on and jumping all over the knowledgable, responsible people for being "mean". Stupidity seems to thrive with cheerleaders.
If it runs true to form, I agree. But, since we do know what direction the posts will take, we'd be smart not respond to such posts.
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I think if you want to join the ranks of being a backyard breeder who breeds for all the wrong reasons, who breeds a dog that is not a good representation of the breed and breeds him to another dog that also is not a good representation of the breed.
If you are interested in making money off the backs of your poor little dog and that poor little female.
If you want to add to an already overpopulation of poorly bred dogs that have been bred by ignorant & disreputable breeders and you want your name added to that list.
Then you are on the right track!
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once again the very silly NatNatts got just what she wanted...attention.
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