Warning to all Biewer Breeders and Owners

[Tnyorkiemom]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

perfectly said..........that is all the facts...........point blank...........she is guilty of this and she knows it..........and we have still not seen her ""proof"" of a lawsuit.........i think that in itself speaks volumes for her ""honesty""....so said that so so many people were snowed by this one person.........and from some of the posts im reading..........are still snowed...........sad sad sad that one "person" could have such a profound influence on so many........truely sad

[Biewer4luv]

If as Gayle/BTCA claims that there was a lawsuit/judgement last year against the IABCA where she was awarded $30k, then will someone please tell me WHY she/club held their BTCA Specialty show with them in Orlando in May, 2010? Hogwash!
Those that have showed with the IABCA in the USA did receive the email about Gayle and Merna. I'm guessing about 100 people.
Many have not believed what GP has tried to spoon feed us and shove down our throats and have seen her true colors several years ago.
About 20 women walked away from her back "group" in August of 2006...for a reason of not agreeing with her poisionous tactics.
Since then those women and anyone not in her "group" were victims of her malicous attacks. Several good breeders/fanciers were destroyed in her process of trying to get to the top. That is sad that those "good" people were lost from the breed that only wanted to help and protect the breed, not injure it.
Her history has shown that if you had a puppy to place, according to her, you were evil and breeding LS so that she could then place a puppy herself.

[Tnyorkiemom]

just wondering something............i wonder if someone could contact Dagmar with the IBC ....i think she could contact Mrs. Biewer and let her know what has happened...........Mrs. Biewer really needs to remove herself from Gayle's clutches.

[evab]

Originally Posted by Biewer4luv

If as Gayle/BTCA claims that there was a lawsuit/judgement last year against the IABCA where she was awarded $30k, then will someone please tell me WHY she/club held their BTCA Specialty show with them in Orlando in May, 2010? Hogwash!
Those that have showed with the IABCA in the USA did receive the email about Gayle and Merna. I'm guessing about 100 people.
Many have not believed what GP has tried to spoon feed us and shove down our throats and have seen her true colors several years ago.
About 20 women walked away from her back "group" in August of 2006...for a reason of not agreeing with her poisionous tactics.
Since then those women and anyone not in her "group" were victims of her malicous attacks. Several good breeders/fanciers were destroyed in her process of trying to get to the top. That is sad that those "good" people were lost from the breed that only wanted to help and protect the breed, not injure it.
Her history has shown that if you had a puppy to place, according to her, you were evil and breeding LS so that she could then place a puppy herself.

I am sorry Wanda, but there seems to be some personal agenda here! A "Witch Hunt" is what we call it in the UK. It is ugly and not at all in the true spirit of what this forum should be all about. There will be no good breeders lost...this is your assumption and guess......as any one who is truly committed to the well being and betterment of the breed...no matter what is said will continue on their own path. To act as Judge and Jury here on this site is very upsetting and uncalled for.

[evab]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

D: Who in their right mind would sign their own name to a fraudulent document? If a person were going to forge titles, do you really think that person would sign their own name to them. (except ofcourse if you are DP), but that's another story.........

The BTCA were given permission to issue National and International titles by the UCI. There is nothing fraudulent in that. People showing with the IABCA show venue were given orange cards giving them the right to receive a title.
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Please people use your own judgement...don't be fooled by Witch Hunters. Do your own research...as I have....and I am are quite aware that many club's have made untrue statements on their own sites, have they not D: Tut Tut

[Heather of BFB]

Originally Posted by evab

I am sorry Wanda, but there seems to be some personal agenda here! A "Witch Hunt" is what we call it in the UK. It is ugly and not at all in the true spirit of what this forum should be all about. There will be no good breeders lost...this is your assumption and guess......as any one who is truly committed to the well being and betterment of the breed...no matter what is said will continue on their own path. To act as Judge and Jury here on this site is very upsetting and uncalled for.

I guess what suprises me is your interest. Do you take it upon yourself to stand up for every bad situation or breeder on this forum? You've already made your sentiments known here and on the pedigree database. Why are you actively searching out threads that pertain to this issue to make your statesments known. I mean, we got the gist of it in your first announcemnt. Are you trying to put out fires? It seems as if you have a personal interest in this thread. What gives? I'm not trying to upset you, but I'm just wondering about your motivation. Mine is finding out the truth and making sure this doesn't happen again.

This is suppose to be a place where people can find out what to be leery of when purchasing a puppy, a place to ask questions, and share good times as well as bad. There are plenty of posts warning potential buyers to beware of certain kennels.

It's already been said that the majority of the members of this club are probably great people, good breeders, and they have the right to know if there is questionable activity with their leadership. This is a direct reflection of what they are a part of. They need the opportunity to make educated decisions and do the research for themselves.

I mean you said on an earlier thread that you don't even own a Biewer, don't even believe in their history, so what's it to you? Why do you feel such a need to defend what you don't even believe in? How do you know everything here isn't the truth? Are you a friend of the persons in question? Where is the proof that everything mentioned here is false? I'd love to see it because I'd LOVE for it not to be true. This hurts the breed and places distrust in all of us. The truth is, there is just too much out there to not question it and inform people. I don't know the whole truth, but when you hear of false titles from the show venue you show at... that's straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. That's enough for me to want to share with others that there is a threat.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by evab

D: Who in their right mind would sign their own name to a fraudulent document? If a person were going to forge titles, do you really think that person would sign their own name to them. (except ofcourse if you are DP), but that's another story.........

The BTCA were given permission to issue National and International titles by the UCI. There is nothing fraudulent in that. People showing with the IABCA show venue were given orange cards giving them the right to receive a title.
************************************************** ***********
Please people use your own judgement...don't be fooled by Witch Hunters. Do your own research...as I have....and I am are quite aware that many club's have made untrue statements on their own sites, have they not D: Tut Tut

I am sure the Bridgegum's would be more than happy to answer all your questions and clear up any confusion.

iabcaofamerica@yahoo.com

[evab]

Originally Posted by Heather of BFB

I guess what suprises me is your interest. Do you take it upon yourself to stand up for every bad situation or breeder on this forum? You've already made your sentiments known here and on the pedigree database. Why are you actively searching out threads that pertain to this issue to make your statesments known. I mean, we got the gist of it in your first announcemnt. Are you trying to put out fires? It seems as if you have a personal interest in this thread. What gives? I'm not trying to upset you, but I'm just wondering about your motivation. Mine is finding out the truth and making sure this doesn't happen again.

This is suppose to be a place where people can find out what to be leery of when purchasing a puppy, a place to ask questions, and share good times as well as bad. There are plenty of posts warning potential buyers to beware of certain kennels.

It's already been said that the majority of the members of this club are probably great people, good breeders, and they have the right to know if there is questionable activity with their leadership. This is a direct reflection of what they are a part of. They need the opportunity to make educated decisions and do the research for themselves.

I mean you said on an earlier thread that you don't even own a Biewer, don't even believe in their history, so what's it to you? Why do you feel such a need to defend what you don't even believe in? How do you know everything here isn't the truth? Are you a friend of the persons in question? Where is the proof that everything mentioned here is false? I'd love to see it because I'd LOVE for it not to be true. This hurts the breed and places distrust in all of us. The truth is, there is just too much out there to not question it and inform people. I don't know the whole truth, but when you hear of false titles from the show venue you show at... that's straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. That's enough for me to want to share with others that there is a threat.

This forum as you say is just the place to find out about the good and bad in purchasing a puppy, and covers many topics of great interest to us all. It should not however, be the place for Witch hunting? or personal agendas.... I have never said any other....I have the right to go on any forum I choose (heather?) and find it a little perturbing that you are following my posts on pedigree database? What are my personal interests etcetcetc....why do you take such an interest? You want to make sure...What does not happen again? There is no evidence except idol gossip here that anything untowards has happened is there? I have not said I do not believe in their history...sorry you have this wrong....I have researched into the BT and made my own conclusions, chosen my own clubs to support or not. I am a member of many Forums, surely I am entitled to be? I will not allow myself to be quoted falsely sorry, or allow personal attacks upon myself as happened on Pedigree Data base by members, whom it seems use many different user names? I have an email with the word "What Gives" it is very uncanny that u use the same exact words...ummmmm By the way there is no heather user name on pedigree database, who has taken part in my threads?

[IRMaxine]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Anyone having verifiable proof to the contrary please come forward !!!!
We would love to see something that contradicts these facts!!!!

[Heather of BFB]

Originally Posted by evab

This forum as you say is just the place to find out about the good and bad in purchasing a puppy, and covers many topics of great interest to us all. It should not however, be the place for Witch hunting? or personal agendas.... I have never said any other....I have the right to go on any forum I choose (heather?) and find it a little perturbing that you are following my posts on pedigree database? What are my personal interests etcetcetc....why do you take such an interest? You want to make sure...What does not happen again? There is no evidence except idol gossip here that anything untowards has happened is there? I have not said I do not believe in their history...sorry you have this wrong....I have researched into the BT and made my own conclusions, chosen my own clubs to support or not. I am a member of many Forums, surely I am entitled to be? I will not allow myself to be quoted falsely sorry, or allow personal attacks upon myself as happened on Pedigree Data base by members, whom it seems use many different user names? I have an email with the word "What Gives" it is very uncanny that u use the same exact words...ummmmm By the way there is no heather user name on pedigree database, who has taken part in my threads?

wow.... I am not a member of the pedigree database, yet. Trust me, I'm not following your posts, why would I? I went there on the recommendation of someone else to read what was written about this matter and noticed what you wrote. It doesn't matter who you think I am. Those that know me, know it's me, but whatever. I don't normally engage in arguements here, it is this issue that has me up in arms. My dogs earned titles with IABCA, it is my primary show venue and I don't appreciate the credibility of my titles to be in question. That's my only motive.

If I falsely quoted you I apologize, that wasn't my intent. The thread I was quoting from is no longer there; maybe it was someone else. Do you own a Biewer? Nevermind... I'm not going to keep this up. I just wondered where you were coming from. The thing that upset me so much about your previous posts was the contempt in them; however, my post in response did the same. I stooped... and shouldn't have.

[scrapindee]

These are the topics of this discussion:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Breezeaway
No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Anyone having verifiable proof to the contrary please come forward !!!!
We would love to see something that contradicts these facts!!!!

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Anyone who wants to talk about anything else regarding no biewers in the UK, or EVAB's love for the BTCA and Gayle, etc. is invited to start their own thread, but this topic is what is listed above. If you want to write to IABCA you were provided the address and if you want ARBA's you can google it and get it easily.
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Now back on topic:

The titles that Gayle/Myrna created were paid for by Biewer owners. Where are the records for the money spent? Where are the records for the monies spent by the registery? Where are the records for the IRS??

Just a few more things that maybe someone should be looking at.....

[GreenwoodBiewer]

Originally Posted by evab

[I]D: The BTCA were given permission to issue National and International titles by the UCI. There is nothing fraudulent in that. People showing with the IABCA show venue were given orange cards giving them the right to receive a title.
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I'm sorry.. but I just noticed this.. your saying that you believe the UCI actually gave the BTCA permission to issue National and International titles??? Do you mind sharing where you came by that informtion?

Thanks..

Diana

[GreenwoodBiewer]

Got an answer.. someone cleared that up for me..Thanks!

-Diana

[IRMaxine]

The answer is in!!!!

BAN FOR LIFE FROM THE IABCA!!!

[IRMaxine]

From: IABCA <iabcaofamerica@yahoo.com>
Date: June 30, 2010 6:40:18 PM EDT
To: pruettbiewers@aol.com
Cc: btca06@aol.com, btca@aol.com, vdrevkoeln@aol.com
Subject: RE: IABCA of America immediate lifetime ban of Gayle Pruett


To Gayle Pruett and BTCA Board Members, Directors & Membership




At 11:00 am pacific time, on June 30, 2010 - The officers and board of directors of The International All Breed Canine Association of America and International Dog Shows voted unanimously, to Ban Gayle Pruett and Pruetts Biewer Paradise” Dream Babies” from the International All Breed Canine Association of America and International Dog Shows for life. Ms. Pruett may not exhibit, may not register any dog with the International All Breed Canine Association of America. No dog listing Gayle Pruett as Owner or Co-owner(this applies only to co-owned dogs born on or after June 30, 2010 :11:00a.m. Pacific time) may ever be exhibited nor registered at an International All Breed Canine Association of America sponsored dog Show.




The ban of Gayle Pruett is effective immediately.11:00a.m. June 30, 2010




IABCA and International Dog Shows

Jeff Bridegum

Deb Bridegum

Scott Odle

Brooke Odle