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Old 06-29-2010, 06:47 PM   #61
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It's very hard for me to believe very many are envolved with this. Maybe I believe too much in the best of people, but I think most of their membership has to be snowed. I can't honestly make myself believe they would stay if they knew the truth. I think most of us just love our dogs, want to make healthy babies, and share them with the world.
What I find odd is the deafening silence coming from the BTCA membership. No posts on their own board defending themselves, or blaming this on someone else. Very strange....
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What I find odd is the deafening silence coming from the BTCA membership. No posts on their own board defending themselves, or blaming this on someone else. Very strange....
There never were very many that actually SPOKE.. it's just that the 4 or 5 that spoke did it very loudly and often.

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Actually the forged titles need to be brought into the public eye so those who received them can have them properly issued by IABCA and Gayle's "mistakes" adressed by UCI and IABCA.

And now that Gayle has claimed she won a lawsuit against IABCA, she is being asked to prove it. She should be proud to prove it, especially if it is the truth. She has made the statement, if it isn't true, then it would be a lie. Not very nice to lie....

And now UCI references have been removed from her websites.
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From: Brooke Bridegum [mailto:iabcaofamerica@yahoo.com]

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Subject: IABCA and Int'l Dog Shows: Fraudulent National Title Diploms



Note: Only International All Breed Canine Association National Titles signed Gayle Pruett and/or Myrna Torres are affected by this problem so far.


Warning to All Biewer Breeders and Owners:

It has recently been brought to our attention by several Biewer owners that there are some “National” Titles issued to Biewer owners that contain false information. It appears there are some National titles issued to Dogs under the heading of International All Breed Canine Association of America, having the Logo of International All Breed Canine Association of America (IABCA) and the UCI logo. The problem is that it appears the titles are signed listing Gayle Pruett as the President of IABCA and Myrna Torres as Secretary of IABCA. This is incorrect and people getting such titles have been misled. In fact, neither woman has ever worked for IABCA, nor have they ever been an officer of IABCA. Therefore any National Title with International All Breed Canine Association of America heading that is signed with the two above mentioned women are not valid titles. Again, to identify these titles make sure the top of the title states International All Breed Canine Assoc. of America and carries the IABCA logo, and is signed naming either person (Gayle or Myrna) as IABCA President and/or Secretary.

There appears to be an additional problem with some of these titles. They seem to have also been issued incorrectly. It appears that puppies have been issued the adult National IABCA title. Puppies cannot be issued the adult titles. There are puppy National titles that are issued corresponding to their age at time of earning said title. The puppy titles clearly state National Baby; or National Jungsten; or National Jugend and National Junghund. Not just the word National Title Diplom. If your National Title from IABCA is signed by Jeff Bridegum as President and Brooke Bridegum as Secretary there is no problem. These titles are valid.

Investigation:
We at the IABCA are investigating the problem and what actions need to be taken. We need to know if there are others involved in the issuing of these false and incorrect titles. If you have any information regarding this matter we would appreciate your contacting the IABCA either by email (by replying to this letter) or by phone to Deb Bridegum at (503) 580-1838.

Solution: We do not want our exhibitors to be left holding an invalid title. If you hold one of these problematic National Titles wrongfully issued from someone other than IABCA, signed by Gayle Pruett and/or Myrna, IABCA intends to help you correct this problem.

Replacement of fraudulent titles:
IABCA will help you correct the problem title. You will need to send the original false title to us at IABCA:

IABCA
4742 Liberty Rd. S #159

Salem, Oregon 97302
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You will also need to send $10.00 to have your title replaced. (You need to keep a copy of the incorrect title for further actions, you must send us the original.) We will then issue valid and correct National Titles and the appropriate National Puppy Titles.

We hope that the wronged exhibitors are able to receive a refund from those that issued the invalid IABCA National Titles. If you wish a letter from IABCA stating your title was wrongly issued we will be happy to provide one once we receive the original invalid National Title signed Gayle Pruett and/or Myrna Torres.

NOTE: This E-mail was sent to current members showing at IABCA. If you are showing, or know someone who might not now be showing please advise them of this problem.

Thank you.
House of Wags? I am a paying member of IABCA and ARBA...I have been sent had no such emails.......I will email them and forward this email to have posted here??? asking what is going on??? I also cannot understand how IABCA conduct their business??? on a public internet CHAT Forum...how unprofessional....looks to me like there is some people here causing unneccessary mischief...and no I will not be replying to any answers of my annalysis on this thread, as I am not interested in idol maliscous gossip by the usual Parti people. Who in their own struggles to get their beautiful little dogs recognised in the SHOW ARENA seem to take great pleasure in trying to tarnish another clubs reputation. How very very very very sad!
Parti Yorkie's are NOT pure bred Yorkshire Terriers, I do not care that AKC have issued them pedigree papers! I DO NOT ACTUALLY CARE FOR PEDIGREE PAPERS AT ALL. we have been down that discussion on other forums..... there are NO pure bred Yorkhire Terriers with BLACK & WHITE saddles on their backs! They are not a miraculous conception from either the Nikko's Kennels or Heir Biewer! end of! Why else would the YTCA exclude them from the show ring! please! out of sheer spite (no,no)....grow up people..... there's a war going on out there....humans are being killed every day! LOVE your dogs.....do all you can for your dogs! breed them correctly and humanely for all the right reasons...but what you are doing to certain people on the forum is disgraceful...bullying and worse! (You should be very ashamed of yourselves) IABCA also need looking into (bet they are making a nice little living out of their Shows and Certificates money and fees $$$$$ too ummmmmmmmmmmm)....as regards how they conduct their business...but as usual with everything..as I have said before "It's all about the money honey" and that goes for AKC/IABCA/IBC/UCI/ etc etc etc........

Oh well enough said.....Regards to my friends on this forum...I have been unwell and simply have not had the energy for the continuous back stabbing I have recieved on this forum site from the day I first became a member...remember Deb? regards to you all.....peace, love & cuddles x
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So...A yorkie that comes out with colour fault is not purebreed, but any other fault and they merely pet quality? How does THAT work?

Sorry to offend Parti people, but I no know how to explain how I feel that silly thing to say any other way.
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I did recieve this email from IABCA and was not forward from someone else. Why you didn't recieve from them perhaps you didn't recieve a title from them? ARBA in not involved yet. Why did they sent this via email to any who have shown in this venue? To look for fake titled issue by THEM.. Excuse me how many Biewers do you have in United Kingdom? You are a part of the Biewer United Kindom Club that is newly formed? Or are you actually in Al.???? Tarnish another club reputation(BTCA), they do that well enough on their own! Sooner or later the truth always catchs up! Have a Blessed Biewer Day...
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So...A yorkie that comes out with colour fault is not purebreed, but any other fault and they merely pet quality? How does THAT work?

Sorry to offend Parti people, but I no know how to explain how I feel that silly thing to say any other way.
All my Yorkie's are Pets. We have no Parti/Tri coloured pure bred Yorkie's in the UK....your point? They are American/German deisgner dogs in my book. Colour fault? Yorkie's are Blue/Tan/Gold in tradition and origination...UK Yorkie's seem to be more Steele Grey/Serle/Tan/Gold. def NO White with Black saddles on their backs. FACT
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All my Yorkie's are Pets. We have no Parti/Tri coloured pure bred Yorkie's in the UK....your point? They are American/German deisgner dogs in my book. Colour fault? Yorkie's are Blue/Tan/Gold in tradition and origination...UK Yorkie's seem to be more Steele Grey/Serle/Tan/Gold. def NO White with Black saddles on their backs. FACT
A purebreed yorkie can carry the parti gene. Two standard blue and tan yorkie can produce a parti pup. It is colour fault. Not a designer dog. Designer dog is mutt crossbred dog.

Also, I thought you no reply because you felt so justified in your case? I just wanted to make sure people didn't think parti/biewer are mutts attempting to pass off as yorkie.
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I did recieve this email from IABCA and was not forward from someone else. Why you didn't recieve from them perhaps you didn't recieve a title from them? ARBA in not involved yet. Why did they sent this via email to any who have shown in this venue? To look for fake titled issue by THEM.. Excuse me how many Biewers do you have in United Kingdom? You are a part of the Biewer United Kindom Club that is newly formed? Or are you actually in Al.???? Tarnish another club reputation(BTCA), they do that well enough on their own! Sooner or later the truth always catchs up! Have a Blessed Biewer Day...

"Excuse me how many Biewers do you have in the United Kingdom?"
There are NO Biewers in the United Kingdom to date, that I am aware of. yes the BTCUK is a newly formed club...free of charge at NO cost to members what so ever...formed to educate UK citizens about the Biewer Terrer. In the UK we are free to make our own choices as to what clubs we belong to, without prejudice or fear of retribution. Does it matter if I am not in Al???? People will find the truth out as you have clearly said, what is not at all helpful is as I have already stated "Malicous Idol Gossip" It is cruel, unjustified and without foundation to say the very least. Have a Blessed Biewer Day and a Glorious Yorkie Day

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A purebreed yorkie can carry the parti gene. Two standard blue and tan yorkie can produce a parti pup. It is colour fault. Not a designer dog. Designer dog is mutt crossbred dog.

Also, I thought you no reply because you felt so justified in your case? I just wanted to make sure people didn't think parti/biewer are mutts attempting to pass off as yorkie.
That my dear is your opinion to which you are entitled, as I am mine... there are NO parti pure bred Yorkie in the UK. The originating country for your beautiful little dogs? why is that do you think? and lets not go into the culling thing again pls, streamglen it's a tiring argument also without foundation.

I do not feel the need to use the word justified in my replies, ALL dogs are mutts, it is the way the word is percieved that upsets people. I have a cross bred dog...classed if you like as a mutt...dictionary explanation....it makes no difference to me...she is beautiful....I love ALL animals...I strive for making their world a better place for them to live in...be treated humanely by all and most importantly be loved.
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That my dear is your opinion to which you are entitled, as I am mine... there are NO parti pure bred Yorkie in the UK. The originating country for your beautiful little dogs? why is that do you think? and lets not go into the culling thing again pls, streamglen it's a tiring argument also without foundation.

I do not feel the need to use the word justified in my replies, ALL dogs are mutts, it is the way the word is percieved that upsets people. I have a cross bred dog...classed if you like as a mutt...dictionary explanation....it makes no difference to me...she is beautiful....I love ALL animals...I strive for making their world a better place for them to live in...be treated humanely by all and most importantly be loved.
First of all thanks you for responding so politely! My English is not the best and I know these topic get very heated and appreciate you being friendly. Make me not afraid to express my opinion! Hehe

We don't have parti or Biewer in Australia either, those lines not being bred as of yet.

I did not mean you didn't reply, it just when you first posted you say if anyone contest your opinion you not reply because you so convince you correct, so when you reply I was confused is all.

And I agree, all mutts, all purebreeds and all animal are gorgeous!
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No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
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First of all thanks you for responding so politely! My English is not the best and I know these topic get very heated and appreciate you being friendly. Make me not afraid to express my opinion! Hehe

We don't have parti or Biewer in Australia either, those lines not being bred as of yet.

I did not mean you didn't reply, it just when you first posted you say if anyone contest your opinion you not reply because you so convince you correct, so when you reply I was confused is all.

And I agree, all mutts, all purebreeds and all animal are gorgeous!
Hi, how nice to chat amicably..I have some distant relatives in Aus..... I am heartened by your comment that you do not have Parti or Biewer in Aus...it would seem as many many Brits emigrated to your fine country and presumably with their beloved pets (Yorkie's included) that should a Yorkie infact hold this parti colour...we can assume that it would have also come out in Australia? But as you have just confirmed it has not (like in the UK)...it almost confirms my views. Your Australian/Silky Terrier is a direct cousin to the Yorkie and I believe holds the colours Steel Grey/Serle & Tan, as I was very fortunate to be at Crufts this year to see them first hand...together with fab little Yorkie's of the correct colour conformation, but of course they would have been..being pure bred show quality.
I only pop into this forum now and again, but please pop onto my profile and we can chat further.
Have a wonderful day....so very nice to have the chance to meet new people all over the world....kindest regards Anita BTCUK
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No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?


Thanks !!!!! We want to stay focused on this!!!!!!!!! These are the real issues that need to be addressed!!!!
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No one has stated anything but the facts on here about the BTCA.
FACT: Gayle and Myrna Issued Fake Titles
FACT: Gayle posed as a DVM to the MARS company
FACT: Gayle lied about a lawsuit against the IABCA.
Shall I proceed?

Hi, I have no intention to add fuel to your dwindling fire. I use this forum to meet new friends and exchange views. I take no part in making personal accusations against any other members and your use of GP & MT, deformation of their character is most cruel and tantermount to ABUSE of the highest proporation. You may continue to show your true colours, people will make their own minds up about the whole made up story and also about those members who made these statements.

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I shall use my own intellect to draw my own conclusions and No amount of pressure used to try to dismantle the BTCA will actually work my dear, it will only work to make the club stronger in it's endeavours to ensure the well being and betterment of the breed and therefore the club.

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