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dwerten 06-18-2010 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 3167412)
I will clarify what I posted, that may help answer some of your questions.

Yorkiegirl2, is breeding the same blood lines together that her dog Scooter had.

My Buyer bred the dog that was purchased from me. This dog began displaying a head tremor shortly after arriving at Buyers home but tremor later stopped (without any medication). My Buyer went ahead and bred the dog and as of 2 weeks ago, two of her pups are now displaying head tremors.
thanks for clarifying

so why breed from the lines if you are complaining about them? That makes no sense to me. Why perpetuate the problem if you feel there is a problem and want your money back?

also Yorkiegirl2 has never answered my questions :(

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Oh great, guess this post makes it go to the top now, STUPID ME!!!

QuickSilver 06-18-2010 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3163814)
Jeannie

Half brother to half sister is not line breeding, this is inbreeding. Only the very experienced breeders do this on occassion. Usually when bringing in a new line. It is done to lock in a type, but in doing so you are also locking in faults. So, one has to be very careful when doing and accept responsibility for the outcome. Usually it is done not without the intent of selling puppies. A breeder will keep them and run them through to monitor for months.
Does the breeder keep them for life, or are they "culled" at some point? Or placed in pet homes after a certain period of time?

Brooklynn 06-18-2010 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by QuickSilver (Post 3167456)
Does the breeder keep them for life, or are they "culled" at some point? Or placed in pet homes after a certain period of time?
I don't think "culling" is done anymore. I would assume they are kept or placed in a pet home. How can anyone "kill" a puppy like that? Good reputable breeders don't "kill" anymore just because they don't fit what the standard is.

Pinehaven 06-18-2010 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 3167561)
I don't think "culling" is done anymore. I would assume they are kept or placed in a pet home. How can anyone "kill" a puppy like that? Good reputable breeders don't "kill" anymore just because they don't fit what the standard is.
Cull also means to weed out, not necessarily Kill. :)

cull definition - Dictionary - MSN Encarta

BellaDonna 06-18-2010 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3167333)
Can you please post the diagnosis as to why the seizures as I am sure the vet gave you the diagnosis.
Also is the dog still on anti-seizure medication?

Also did you breed this dog that had seizures?

I think this will help some of us understand your side as well.

I know I am not on either side and learning from all this as well having dealt with a dog with health issues.
It is strange that even though she answers other questions that surround your direct questions, she never answers these questions other than to say I haven't kept track of him. Why not just answer your questions fully?

Rhetts_mama 06-18-2010 11:56 AM
You know what? We aren't EVER going to get to the truth of the matter here. There's the OP's side, they Buyer's side and then the new owner's side - who isn't here, so we won't ever have an accurate picture of what is going on with the health of the dog now.

The truth is somewhere in between those 3 stories. We aren't going to be able to make an accurate cyber-diagnosis on this dog, so we shouldn't really be trying to say one side is in the right and the other is wrong.

What we can take away from this is the following:

1- Buyers- know your breeder. You need to be comfortable with all of their practices and with the contract you are signing.

2- Breeders - know your buyer. Know what they plan on doing with your dog once it leaves your care. Have a plan in place if there might be a problem down the road.

3- And finally, this is the most important: It's ALL about the health of the dogs. Their well being comes first and foremost. Finger pointing and hurt feelings are for 3rd graders. Grow up, get over it and move on.

[stepping off my soap box now]

motomomma317 06-18-2010 12:04 PM
I am putting in my vote to have this closed and put in the recycling bin.

dwerten 06-18-2010 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BellaDonna (Post 3167599)
It is strange that even though she answers other questions that surround your direct questions, she never answers these questions other than to say I haven't kept track of him. Why not just answer your questions fully?
Exactly as that makes me wonder.

Whenever people do not answer questions I always wonder why and what is there to hide?

I am taking no sides just want to know the facts.

dwerten 06-18-2010 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3167624)
You know what? We aren't EVER going to get to the truth of the matter here. There's the OP's side, they Buyer's side and then the new owner's side - who isn't here, so we won't ever have an accurate picture of what is going on with the health of the dog now.

The truth is somewhere in between those 3 stories. We aren't going to be able to make an accurate cyber-diagnosis on this dog, so we shouldn't really be trying to say one side is in the right and the other is wrong.

What we can take away from this is the following:

1- Buyers- know your breeder. You need to be comfortable with all of their practices and with the contract you are signing.

2- Breeders - know your buyer. Know what they plan on doing with your dog once it leaves your care. Have a plan in place if there might be a problem down the road.

3- And finally, this is the most important: It's ALL about the health of the dogs. Their well being comes first and foremost. Finger pointing and hurt feelings are for 3rd graders. Grow up, get over it and move on.

[stepping off my soap box now]
NO cyber diagnosis is in order as this dog went to a vet so there should be a vet diagnosis so what is it?

Rhetts_mama 06-18-2010 05:24 PM
Again, since the person who actually HAS the dog isn't a member here and neither the Breeder nor the buyer have kept in touch with the new owners, we aren't ever going to know exactly WHAT the final diagnosis was.

dwerten 06-18-2010 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3167944)
Again, since the person who actually HAS the dog isn't a member here and neither the Breeder nor the buyer have kept in touch with the new owners, we aren't ever going to know exactly WHAT the final diagnosis was.
But the buyer of the dog is a member here and she had the dog diagnosed prior to re-homing this dog so she does know the diagnosis so this has nothing to do with the new owner of the dog. The buyer re-homed this dog as she could not breed it due to seizures from what I am reading. Yet no answer has been stated whether this dog was bred prior to rehoming either? This whole thing is a debate of two members here based on the seizures - so again What is the diagnosis?

Rhetts_mama 06-18-2010 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 3162894)
He was never used for breeding.
I place him with someone free.
They had him neutered and had the resources to keep up testing and meds.

He had continued testing with the new owners. Therefore, it really doesn't matter what the buyer's vet said. It only matters what the new owners found with further testing. If the buyer had continued to keep in contact, then she might be able to give you the final diagnosis, but since she didn't why do you keep asking her?

dwerten 06-18-2010 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3167964)
He had continued testing with the new owners. Therefore, it really doesn't matter what the buyer's vet said. It only matters what the new owners found with further testing. If the buyer had continued to keep in contact, then she might be able to give you the final diagnosis, but since she didn't why do you keep asking her?
From what I have read she had a diagnosis prior to rehoming. Why would someone take on a dog they did not know what was wrong with it so from what I am reading the new buyer knew what was wrong with it or it was the food and no further issues?

Why would you bad mouth a breeder on the internet if you had no firm diagnosis prior to rehoming the dog possibly hurting this breeders reputation?

Why would you ask for money back if you had no diagnosis?

Why would you bad mouth the breeder saying they did not keep in contact with how this dog was doing for 5 years and then never keep in contact with new owner to know how dog is doing? Isn't that the same thing she is accusing the breeder of?

dwerten 06-18-2010 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3167964)
He had continued testing with the new owners. Therefore, it really doesn't matter what the buyer's vet said. It only matters what the new owners found with further testing. If the buyer had continued to keep in contact, then she might be able to give you the final diagnosis, but since she didn't why do you keep asking her?
so her Vet could not give her a diagnosis? Then if someone else is paying for the vet bills why come after a breeder for this?

None of this make sense to me sorry

Rhetts_mama 06-18-2010 05:53 PM
And why would someone come on 5 years after the fact and stir up the waters again? The buyer gave her opinion 5 years ago. Heaven forbid someone actually have an opinion that isn't all warm and gooey. Was it ill advised to post some of the things she did? Yes. But to drag it back up with screen shots and all 5 years after the fact seems just dumb. If the buyer were STILL posting things about her, then fine, but why dig up old posts? To me, that suggests she's just looking for a fight and came out to bait the buyer for some reason.

IMO- the breeder is doing more to hurt her reputation by bringing it back up. Some things should be handled in private. This is one of those things. Neither party is totally innocent in this matter and at some point you have to let things go.

And as for letting things go, I'm walking out of this one.

Arzel36 06-18-2010 05:55 PM
Very sad!!!!!!!!!

dwerten 06-18-2010 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3167993)
And why would someone come on 5 years after the fact and stir up the waters again? The buyer gave her opinion 5 years ago. Heaven forbid someone actually have an opinion that isn't all warm and gooey. Was it ill advised to post some of the things she did? Yes. But to drag it back up with screen shots and all 5 years after the fact seems just dumb. If the buyer were STILL posting things about her, then fine, but why dig up old posts? To me, that suggests she's just looking for a fight and came out to bait the buyer for some reason.

IMO- the breeder is doing more to hurt her reputation by bringing it back up. Some things should be handled in private. This is one of those things. Neither party is totally innocent in this matter and at some point you have to let things go.

And as for letting things go, I'm walking out of this one.
yeah unless it is affecting her reputation still is the only reason I can see her doing this - who knows

Some cannot let it go unless that wrong is some how righted and especially if they feel strongly that they did not do anything wrong

now you know why you never see me in the breeding threads lollllll

Well glad the pup is doing ok and hope these two can work it out and move on and be happy :) Good luck to both as life is too short


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