New White Yorkie!!

[BabyBrizzy]

I just wanted to clarify my statement. I have heard rumors of the AKC registering Biewers as a separate breed on my local news classifieds. I do not know anything about them other than what I have read here, and looked up after reading this thread. So I did not mean to cause offense, just stating what I heard...

[ARCHIE]

Your three babies are beautiful. You need to understand why member's
are questioning you. After all you came on YT and stated you had
designer dogs and got them at 8wks old from a great breeder.
You mentioned also that the breeder told you that the Biewer is being
registered AKC as well. Can you see where the questioning started?
That's what YT is all about.
Picking up wrong info and stating the correct info. There are lot's of
very well Yorkie educated people/breeder's here and you can be
assured if you post something that's incorrect it will not go unnoticed.
Please don't feel your being ambused. That's not true only being
corrected is all.
Welcome to YT. Stay, learn and enjoy.

[br1ttan1h]

Not to sound mean but jsut b/c someone has bred animals for 17 years does not make them great. Many puppy millers (no, I am not calling your breeder a miller) have been breeding for just as long, that surely does not make them a good breeder.
I came on here prior to getting my puppies. I learned a great deal of information from these ladies. One thing I can tell you is that they are very passionate about this breed and do get upset when hearing of terms like "designer". IMO no dog should be deamed "designer" it makes them sound like the newest handbag.

[maryeverett1]

I realize what I posted. I saw them for the first time both at 8 weeks. Still to me doesn't justify the stern debate on "ethics." like I was frying my dogs in hot oil or something! if you knew this breeder you would understand that she is that last person on the planet that would do anything less than the utmost for her dogs. I researched a ton of breeders before choosing her and chose her because of the care gives to each dog she owns and each litter she produces. She truly goes above and beyond for her dogs...she is in a class all her own!

[celstu1]

Originally Posted by oceansoracle

I want to say welcome to the group! I have been on YT for a while and I must say that I apologoze for some of these snobby, judgemental, know it alls who can leave a bitter taste in anyones mouth. I am so sorry that you have been met with these types of comments and disdain. The most important thing is to love and care for your babies! There are a some of us on here who are actually nice and non-judgemental and love ALL dogs regardless of breed, registry, or breed jargon. Therefore, if you would like to join me and Hugo, feel free to add us to your friends list.

I think that the administrators of this website should place another sticky of proper YT ettiquite becuase all this bantering and badgering is unacceptable.

ooohhh thats not fair... yes some on here are more technically inclined and feel informing people of the correct ways breeders should be will only HELP the breed and continue their long life span and overall general health.

HOWEVER, I do believe there is NOT ONE person on who here who would not love ANY dog and take any dog in and give it a loving good home. Each and every person on here caring enough to KNOW this breed and be soooo well informed of their nuances, quirks and health would NEVER not have compassion to any living animal (esp dogs) even if they did not have good registry.

To the OP, I know sometimes it feels like an attack on your breeder... do you know the history of the Golden Retriever? Well the Yorkie is the #2 most popular dog breed now. This means that there is a HIGH demand for them. This means any Tom, Dick or Harry can breed and make money selling yorkie pups. This also means that in order to pump out more pups for more revenue that cross breeding is going on, pups too young to breed, breeding runts with runts for ultra small (as they refer to them as 'teacup yorkies') is running rampart. When this happens, the world/nation as a whole actually HURTS the breed by introducing genetic mutations. This leads to the decline of the breed as a whole. Yes, your pups and your world may not feel the effects of it, but when you look into the eyes of your babies, imagine there are MILLIONS more out there that have those eyes, but not that life. They are sick, dying younger, on meds, have knee problems, liver shunt, pancreatitis, all bc a TON of not so great breeders decided to cash in on a TREND. This trend will fade and when it does the world will be left with a breed of dog that is only a shadow of the greatness it used to be. LOVING your dogs, and placing them in good homes to good people does not make a person an ethical breeder, it does not make them a bad person though, it makes them a kind person who perhaps should be more aware of their breeding practices and what is best for this breed of dog.

So yes, have fun here, post pics of your gorgeous pups, join the fun threads, but do not turn a blind eye to the truth of the matter. I understand you not wanting to talk about that 'technical garble' and that's ok, you don't have to, and I am SOOO SORRY that your post turned to this. I had an idea it would when I first read it.

I hope that my words do not offend you at all... they are meant to explain the seriousness of the compassion found here.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by rbelland

Everyone here is trying to inform you. Just because one breeder told you something does not make it right. I had a mentor once who was really wacko, but until I talked with more folks about things I knew nothing. I thought she knew everything and was helping me.



We are very passionate about our babies. I would hate for someone to read this thread and have the wrong information. That's why it is important for those with knowledge to come forth and let everyone know what they know.

[BabyBrizzy]

Originally Posted by br1ttan1h

Not to sound mean but jsut b/c someone has bred animals for 17 years does not make them great. Many puppy millers (no, I am not calling your breeder a miller) have been breeding for just as long, that surely does not make them a good breeder.
I came on here prior to getting my puppies. I learned a great deal of information from these ladies. One thing I can tell you is that they are very passionate about this breed and do get upset when hearing of terms like "designer". IMO no dog should be deamed "designer" it makes them sound like the newest handbag.

I agree! And not just cause my name is Brittani too! *hehehe*

[QuickSilver]

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

Thanks for your interest in Paris! Thor sounds gorgeous! Her hair has the same texture! It is almost like cotton candy and swings when she walks it also is luminous!! She has the most beautiful personality! Laid back, calm, a real snuggler! Very interested to see what Napoleon will turn out like! He is as white as his mama all over so I wonder if he will stay that way! Will continue to post pictures if I can make it through today's mayhem and foolishness alive!! LOL. Look forward to talking with you again soon!

I didn't catch everything that was said here. Are your dogs bred with another breed, or are they full yorkie to your knowledge? If they are full yorkie, did any of them start out with black/tan hair, and then turn white as they aged?

[Fantastic49]

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

And I don't plan on telling a very successful 17 year breeder of high quality yorkies how to do her job. Friend or no friend. She has done phenomenal so far (as you can see by my dogs) and giving her my opinion would be as ridiculous as some of the opinions I've received here today...

i didn't say you should tell your breeder how to do her job, i simply made a suggestion that you could relay the info to her (which you clearly did). and it is not my personal opinion, it is the YTCA standard ... i have no opinion on the matter, i was just trying to be helpful....

as the one who gave incorrect information in the first place, it seems strange that you are so upset with jackson25 for calling out your breeder under those circumstances ... if you recognize that the YTCA standard is correct, i don't see how there is any argument over this

it's frustrating to try to talk to someone who is so very defensive

[Fantastic49]

Originally Posted by rbelland

Everyone here is trying to inform you. Just because one breeder told you something does not make it right. I had a mentor once who was really wacko, but until I talked with more folks about things I knew nothing. I thought she knew everything and was helping me.



We are very passionate about our babies. I would hate for someone to read this thread and have the wrong information. That's why it is important for those with knowledge to come forth and let everyone know what they know.

[jackson25]

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

I realize what I posted. I saw them for the first time both at 8 weeks. Still to me doesn't justify the stern debate on "ethics." like I was frying my dogs in hot oil or something! if you knew this breeder you would understand that she is that last person on the planet that would do anything less than the utmost for her dogs. I researched a ton of breeders before choosing her and chose her because of the care gives to each dog she owns and each litter she produces. She truly goes above and beyond for her dogs...she is in a class all her own!

I hope you didn't think I was meaning you at all, I was questioning the ethics of your breeder not you. I can tell you love your dogs. But you must know that other people who aren't as knowledgeable, will read this, so we must inform them of what is right & wrong!

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

I didn't catch everything that was said here. Are your dogs bred with another breed, or are they full yorkie to your knowledge? If they are full yorkie, did any of them start out with black/tan hair, and then turn white as they aged?

They are mixed. The never started out black and tan. Your Thor is a too cute for words!

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

I realize what I posted. I saw them for the first time both at 8 weeks. Still to me doesn't justify the stern debate on "ethics." like I was frying my dogs in hot oil or something! if you knew this breeder you would understand that she is that last person on the planet that would do anything less than the utmost for her dogs. I researched a ton of breeders before choosing her and chose her because of the care gives to each dog she owns and each litter she produces. She truly goes above and beyond for her dogs...she is in a class all her own!

I CAN NOT believe you said that...even in jest!!! I don't know of any dog lover who would say something that cruel.

[BabyBrizzy]

I think maybe this thread is getting a little too far off topic... So... anyone here the knock knock joke about tinkerbell???

[QuickSilver]

Originally Posted by Princes mom

I CAN NOT believe you said that...even in jest!!! I don't know of any dog lover who would say something that cruel.

I'm going to be honest, I thought that was funny. I was even tempted to post "mmmm, fried yorkie", but I thought that might be over the line.

Some people just have different types of humor, I guess.

I'm staying out of the rest of this debate, but I must stand up for black humor everywhere!