Desperate! Need advice

[violet voon]

Go and get her...by the way I don't think the lady's willing to pay money and time to sue you, just my thought

[vbayne]

Originally Posted by JamieP

I didn't mean my other comment to sound like anything other than it just being humorous, as in 'go over and ring her bell' funny!! I know my comment to that could be taken differently but Lord, it's not at all how it was meant. So I just wanted you to know that.

With that, I'm also going to let everyone know that this ordeal and how it could go has literally kept me up all night long. Not a wink of sleep. I'm either going to bring her back home where all is good, or I'm going to lose her forever with what I'm about to do. I am so distraught over this that I am physically ill!! I'm going to ponder it over for a few more hours before I make my decision. But I will post and give you all an update as to what I've decided. PLEASE....everyone that may stumble onto this thread, say a prayer for me and and my Ciera that whatever happens is meant to be and that we may find peace with it.

It was humerous, and no offense was taken by your comment...

[katie_n_me]

Originally Posted by violet voon

Go and get her...by the way I don't think the lady's willing to pay money and time to sue you, just my thought

Originally Posted by JamieP

I'm laughing at that comment! Too funny!!!! If only it were that simple I would, really. At this point, IF I have no recourse in getting her back, and she does get to keep her, I don't want to make her mad. Then I would never see her again. I have to make SURE that what I do and say to her I can back up. I have a call in to a cop friend of mine here. He has yet to call me back but I'm hoping to hear from him by tomorrow. He's been on the force for a very long time and he would know what I can and can't do. She's going to know if I go knocking on her door that I'm not there for a visit since she made it clear that I couldn't come and see Ciera for a month or two. Since she has the 'written contract' she can call the police if she had a mind to and get me booted. And she may. I don't really know her.

I am in total agreement with VioletMoon and do not believe this woman will spend anything to sue you.

Have you heard from your cop friend? Do you think he would be willing to accompany you? I think that would be most effective. I know you must have trepidation about getting the police involved, but maybe you should at least go to the police department and make an inquiry, if you don't hear back from your friend. (BTW, call him again.) If you could get an officer to accompany you to this woman's house, I would think you would likely leave with your baby.

You want to act quickly, yet effectively. Don't rush too much. You have one shot at this before this woman becomes aware of your intentions. Be careful.

I am praying you are given effective direction.

[JamieP]

Originally Posted by katie_n_me

I am in total agreement with VioletMoon and do not believe this woman will spend anything to sue you.

Have you heard from your cop friend? Do you think he would be willing to accompany you? I think that would be most effective. I know you must have trepidation about getting the police involved, but maybe you should at least go to the police department and make an inquiry, if you don't hear back from your friend. (BTW, call him again.) If you could get an officer to accompany you to this woman's house, I would think you would likely leave with your baby.

You want to act quickly, yet effectively. Don't rush too much. You have one shot at this before this woman becomes aware of your intentions. Be careful.

I am praying you are given effective direction.

No, I have not heard from him. Not sure why he hasn't called me back. I've tried to reach him 4 times yesterday and again this morning but he's not answering nor calling me back. Which is unusual for him. I'm not rushing on anything I do at this point. My main motivation for getting in touch with him was to see if I had a right to go get her under these circumstances, and if that paper she made me write under duress was legal. I'll try him again before I go over there. If he's not answering there has to be a reason for it. Just not sure what the reason is.

[katie_n_me]

Originally Posted by JamieP

No, I have not heard from him. Not sure why he hasn't called me back. I've tried to reach him 4 times yesterday and again this morning but he's not answering nor calling me back. Which is unusual for him. I'm not rushing on anything I do at this point. My main motivation for getting in touch with him was to see if I had a right to go get her under these circumstances, and if that paper she made me write under duress was legal. I'll try him again before I go over there. If he's not answering there has to be a reason for it. Just not sure what the reason is.

Unless he has a legal background, he will not know the law in this regard, but may be willing to share his opinion anyway. Please keep in mind that cops typically just know when someone is breaking a law obviously, but are unaware of the instricacies of law even when/if they claim to know. Either they don't know or are just plain wrong and make invalid statements. That's why there are attorneys. Do you have any attorney friends or have a friend that has a relationship with an attorney? Maybe you will find a lawyer who will be sympathetic to your cause and financial situation and offer free advice. If you don't, contact legal aid tomorrow to discuss your situation. Also, maybe your divorce attorney would personally be of some help or might be willing to find out on your behalf or might direct you to another attorney who would be sympathetic to your cause and financial situation. Remember to discuss the legal terms and issues found in my lengthy post. It is my belief you are standing on solid ground.

I'm sure you don't want to impose on your friend, but I would be sure to ask him if he would accompany you. He may not be willing to put himself in that situation because he knows he doesn't know the law and would not want to be held accountable for any wrongdoing. I'd ask him anyway; he may be willing and that would be excellent (if you ever hear back-aargh).

Take a deep breath...

[JamieP]

This is for everyone that not only followed my post, but helped me decide what was best to do. Before I go any further, I want to thank you all again for all of your help, wonderful advice and concern for my little one as well as myself. You all are a fantastic group!

Now, to let you all know the outcome of this.....
I ended up going over there but to my surprise the lady was understanding and considerate to me. She saw how Ciera was clinging to me and told me, without my asking, to take her home. She said she wanted Ciera to be happy and it was obviously with me that she would be happy.
She told me that the two days she had her that she didn't want anything to do with her, and that all she did was lay in her crate.
I have to tell you all that this lady did, in fact, have her best interest at heart in order for her to do that. She didn't have to, yet she did. She even hugged me 3 times before I left and told me I was a good person and to not let hard times in my life be a factor in doing something so drastic. That in doing what I initially did would only bring grief later on. We all have hard times but we just do what we can, and what we cant, we do later. As long as it all gets done.
She had such a nice visit with me that she asked me to come back and bring Ciera with me from time to time. I'm so glad that things worked out this way. Not what I expected at all. Ciera is happily back in her home and is right now working over a bully stick. She's lovin life!!!!

Thank you all again. God Bless!

[Jennxling]

I'm really glad everything worked out great!!! God bless that lady!

[bellanrocco]

Originally Posted by JamieP

This is for everyone that not only followed my post, but helped me decide what was best to do. Before I go any further, I want to thank you all again for all of your help, wonderful advice and concern for my little one as well as myself. You all are a fantastic group!

Now, to let you all know the outcome of this.....
I ended up going over there but to my surprise the lady was understanding and considerate to me. She saw how Ciera was clinging to me and told me, without my asking, to take her home. She said she wanted Ciera to be happy and it was obviously with me that she would be happy.
She told me that the two days she had her that she didn't want anything to do with her, and that all she did was lay in her crate.
I have to tell you all that this lady did, in fact, have her best interest at heart in order for her to do that. She didn't have to, yet she did. She even hugged me 3 times before I left and told me I was a good person and to not let hard times in my life be a factor in doing something so drastic. That in doing what I initially did would only bring grief later on. We all have hard times but we just do what we can, and what we cant, we do later. As long as it all gets done.
She had such a nice visit with me that she asked me to come back and bring Ciera with me from time to time. I'm so glad that things worked out this way. Not what I expected at all. Ciera is happily back in her home and is right now working over a bully stick. She's lovin life!!!!

Thank you all again. God Bless!

Wow, that is a really wonderful ending to what I at first perceived as a sad story. I am so happy for you and for Ciera! She must have missed you terribly! And you know what, that lady's right..word for word. I truly believe it. Soo very happy for you!

[JamieP]

Originally Posted by bellanrocco

Wow, that is a really wonderful ending to what I at first perceived as a sad story. I am so happy for you and for Ciera! She must have missed you terribly! And you know what, that lady's right..word for word. I truly believe it. Soo very happy for you!

Yes, she was stuck to me like glue the entire time I was there. Either in my lap or at my feet. You have to figure as I'm sure she did, that Ciera had only been with her for 2 days, so of course she was going to cling to me while I was there. It was pretty cool tho.

[joeys mom]

Hip Hip Hurrrrray!!!!!! I am so glad you got her back, after the phone conversation you had with her, I didn't think it would have went this well, but I am so glad it did. Now my heart goes out to this lady, as this is the second dog that she has had to give back, BUT she didn't have time to form a real bond with Ciera. I hope she finds a dog that needs a home that is suited for her enviroment. Just curious, Did the house look any better today???

[LilMissy]

I am so happy for you and Ciera! It does seem that lady truly had Ciera's best interest in mind. This is so awesome. I was not expecting the story to unfold in this way. Congratulations on getting her back.

[AbbysMom08]

I have read this thread and all of the postings and am so very happy that you have your baby back.
I was in tears as I read the posts. I can't imagine what you must have went through. My tears now are those of happiness. (I think the older I get the more emotional I get)
I know your little one is so happy to be back in your loving arms.
Please take care and I will keep you and Ciera in my prayers.

[JasmineNoelle]

I am so happy that the two of you are back together!

[gigis_mom]

Sometimes it's hard to have faith in mankind but from time to time they still show us just how much love is still out there. What a nice surprise. Welcome home little one!

[violet voon]

Wow this is the greatest news!